Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

[Ruzious]

Ughh... He added 50M in salary to next years books alone, gave up a future 1st, Kennard (late 1st value), and 4 consecutive 2nds (23-26).
For what? Stewart & Bey... Im just not impressed.
Looks like they just got a nice, hard working group of limited players that will keep them out of the top 6-8 picks but not in the playoffs.

But lets see what he does with more time.

Nah, they're a bottom 5 team this season for sure. Remember, Griffin is half the player he used to be. They probably added Grant just to reach the minimum salary cap, and they could trade him for another 1st rounder and a bad contract. Aside from those 2 and a couple average vets, they're relying on rookies. I thought they got a great value pick with S Bey at 19, but trading to get Stewart at 16 was a bit of a reach - though he could get 10 rebounds a game as a rookie. I think they should have gone with Poku - who went 17th, but I guess with Dombouyou being so raw - they didn't want another raw forward. I think Hayes has a good shot being ROY at 19 years old.

NOT buying Grant. The guy plays above average defense and shoots a solid C&S 3... and thats it. He doesnt rebound, he doesnt pass, and he doesnt create for himself.
100% of his 3's over the last two years were assisted, while 77% of his 2's were assisted.

I understand his efficiency is great, but guys that do very little on the court while requiring teammates to score are always fools gold and it shows up in the +/- numbers... See Allen Crabbe.
Standard On/Off, RPM, RAPTOR, etc... all show Grant to be somewhere between 6th man at best, 10th man at worst.

I repeat, they'll NEVER get a 1st round pick for Grant. EVER. He's a poor mans Marvin Williams.

I don't think he's anything special, but he does fill a role that pretty much every team wants - a 3 and D guy with the versatility to guard a wide variety of forwards. Players like that are very much in demand in today's game. I wasn't exactly gushing over him by saying Detroit probably got him to over the salary cap minimum - and saying Detroit's a bottom 5 team with him.

[payitforward]

Yeah... I have to agree about Grant. But the key thing is that Weaver inherited next to nothing to work with in rebuilding the Pistons. Neither this year nor next will Grant's salary actually hurt the team.

In any case... we'll see!

[Kanyewest]

Speaking of the Pistons, they just waived Zhaire Smith, who was taken right after Troy Brown in 2018. He had health issues due to an allergic reaction which caused to lose 40 pounds and have feeding tubes. He might be worth a look for someone if he ever gets back to 100%

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Speaking of the Pistons, they just waived Zhaire Smith, who was taken right after Troy Brown in 2018. He had health issues due to an allergic reaction which caused to lose 40 pounds and have feeding tubes. He might be worth a look for someone if he ever gets back to 100%

I liked him a lot coming out of college.

If we had a roster spot, I’d take a look.

[gambitx777]

Take the look anyway we arnt cap strapped too bad right now take a look and see if he can steal a spot

Speaking of the Pistons, they just waived Zhaire Smith, who was taken right after Troy Brown in 2018. He had health issues due to an allergic reaction which caused to lose 40 pounds and have feeding tubes. He might be worth a look for someone if he ever gets back to 100%

I liked him a lot coming out of college.

If we had a roster spot, I’d take a look.

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[pcbothwel]

Yeah... I have to agree about Grant. But the key thing is that Weaver inherited next to nothing to work with in rebuilding the Pistons. Neither this year nor next will Grant's salary actually hurt the team.

In any case... we'll see!

Sure... but then offer GSW Kennard for Wiggins and that 2021 Wolves 1st (Plus maybe a high 2nd). Wiggins is about the same caliber of player as Grant but paid more... so get an asset for using cap space.

[closg00]

Read on Twitter

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2020/12/07/bol-bol-denver-nuggets-practice-highlights/

When playing it safe gets you Admiral instead of Bol

[pcbothwel]

Read on Twitter

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2020/12/07/bol-bol-denver-nuggets-practice-highlights/

When playing it safe gets you Admiral instead of Bol

I had Bol in my top 5... I feel ill be vindicated in time. He's a more skilled/dynamic version of KP.

[TheBlackCzar]

Not drafting Bol Bol was dumb as hell....

Off topic
I love his dad always remember Manute jersey giveaway night when I was like 3 or 4, jersey looking like a bridal train....

[LyricalRico]

In 3 years will that Paul George extension be the worst contract in the league?

[Ruzious]

Read on Twitter

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2020/12/07/bol-bol-denver-nuggets-practice-highlights/

When playing it safe gets you Admiral instead of Bol

I had Bol in my top 5... I feel ill be vindicated in time. He's a more skilled/dynamic version of KP.

If he can stay healthy and add some meat to the caboose. He's not smooth, but wow is he ever skilled for that size.

[payitforward]

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

[NatP4]

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

cause Admiral Schofield!!!

[TheBlackCzar]

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

That was a dumb decision not to make that decision..... And when he flourishes it'll be even more disgusting...

[pcbothwel]

In 3 years will that Paul George extension be the worst contract in the league?

No, but will still be bad. In the next three years we'll see more Tobias Harris type contracts.
Derozan, Jrue, Oladipo, etc. are all FA's next year and could easily see an Albatross out of those 3.
Oh, and just wait until Harden signs a Max extension at 33 y/o. Or when Curry signs a Max deal paying him near 60M when he's 36.

Paul George is 6'9 and over the last 3 years has shot 40% from 3 on almost 9 3PA/36. That skill isnt going anywhere

[doclinkin]

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

cause Admiral Schofield!!!

But but but... CHARACTER!

[closg00]

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

It appears that the Wizards had their draft "plan" already set that night with the trade-up, correct me if I'm wrong

[doclinkin]

From listening to asst coach David Adkins they had seen Admiral since he was a kid and liked what they saw.

[payitforward]

what "trade up?" -- but, yes, it does appear that Tommy made the move to acquire the #42 pick in order to take Admiral Schofield. Didn't work out. Looks to have been a pretty thin R2, btw.

[payitforward]

Admiral played pretty well for Tennessee & in a very competitive conference. Not great, but some things to like -- he was a very good 3-point shooter, especially as a Senior. & he is a big, strong kid.

As far as passing on Bol Bol, when I wrote:

I don't know how you don't take a chance on that kid if you have a shot at him with the #42 pick....

I didn't mean to point a specific criticism at Tommy or his staff. A bunch of teams passed on Bol to take guys who haven't worked out (at least so far). The draft is always like that. Guys are never ever picked in order of how good they actually turn out to be. The ability to predict is limited, & chance is a big factor as well.