NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 5

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #1101 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:15 am

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FAH1223 · Post #1102 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Apr 10, 2023 12:58 pm

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closg00 · Post #1103 » by **closg00** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:32 am

Enjoyable playoff game between ATL & MIA

FAH1223 · Post #1104 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:02 am

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So Wizards in Minnesota. Similar to how they blew the series against Memphis a year ago.

Kanyewest · Post #1105 » by **Kanyewest** » Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:29 pm

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So Wizards in Minnesota. Similar to how they blew the series against Memphis a year ago.

Anthony Edwards was pretty bad (other than on the boards and defensively). Taurean Prince looked really good in the 1st half but looked like the version of the Raptors' Prince that they overpaid for to close out the game. KAT looked exhausted down the stretch. If it wasn't for a Davis foul on Conley, the Timberwolves would have scored 9 points for the quarter. Maybe the Wolves are better with Rudy Gobert (Wolves were outrebounded 68-39)

While perhaps the Lakers played well, this is kind of the Wolves profile of giving up double digit leads in the 4th quarter. The Lakers will go on to play the Grizzlies, who the Wolves managed to blow 4 big leads to in last year's playoffs.

It's also too bad Brandon Clarke is out for what would have been an epic Rui vs Clarke series.

FAH1223 · Post #1106 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:03 am

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dobrojim · Post #1107 » by **dobrojim** » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:52 pm

TOR can only look at themselves for all the bricked FTs.
They shoulda won except for that. But that's an important thing.

DeRozen's daughter was funny/cute but pros can let external $h1t distract them
when it's win or go home.

payitforward · Post #1108 » by **payitforward** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:13 am

You know... you can kind of look at the play-in games as the "crunch time" of the regular season. &, doing that, I've learned a couple of important things.

First off, you can't underestimate the important stat called +/- or On/Off. Just look at the Bulls victory over Toronto. Not only did Zach Lavine score 39 points in his 40 minutes on the floor, but his +/- was +11.

Toronto simply had no answer for him.

Yet, as impressive as that was, you must conclude that it was actually Derrick Jones, Jr. who won the game for the Bulls. After all, they only won by 4 points, so by posting a +6 +/- in a mere six minutes, it's obvious Jones earns credit for the victory.

Even more impressive was the way Jones did it, which made him completely impossible to stop. Consider that he took no shots or free throw attempts at all. Plus he had no assists, steals or turnovers. Nor did he commit even a single foul. Or block a shot. & finally, to top off his performance, Jones never got a rebound on either end of the court.

Tell me, how is it possible to counter a performance like that?

payitforward · Post #1109 » by **payitforward** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 1:37 am

The other important takeaway from the play-in games so far came from OKC's victory over the Pels.

What did I learn, you ask? Well... it's kind of obvious, so I'm a little embarrassed even to write about it, since surely everyone must already know it.

I learned the critical significance of high draft picks -- of not having them on your team, I mean. Watching the game I noticed that of the 9 guys who saw the floor for OKC, not even one of them was a top ten pick. & obviously none of them were in the top 1/3 of the lottery where, as Dat2u has so often pointed out, the difference makers are to be found.

OKC's starters were a guy picked #34 & another picked #12, plus a number 6 pick along with a player who went undrafted (just think of him as a #61 pick if you like) along with SGA who was taken at #11.

When you consider that the Thunder's bench players included a #49 pick, a #55 pick, plus one more undrafted player (again, just think of the guy as a #61 pick) along with Suns veteran cast-off Dario Saric, a #12 pick in 2014 whom OKC picked up at the deadline, a little simple arithmetic makes the point obvious:

When you rebuild through youth, & you want the kind of success OKC is having, you should aim for an average pick position among your players of about #30.

But, wait, (edit) -- actually that average is #33. &, if a Saric-style cast-off isn't available, you can set your sights on an average pick position of around 36.

There's a lot to learn from those play-in games, as you can see.

payitforward · Post #1110 » by **payitforward** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 2:16 am

Ooops, I realize I was probably a little misleading about OKC's roster & their pick positions.

After all, I didn't include the rest of their roster -- Chet Holmgren, Kenrich Williams, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl, Ousmane Dieng, Tre Mann, or Aleksei Pokusevski.

So, yeah, the average pick position of this outstanding young roster zooms all the way back up to #31. Tho w/o Chet, those guys would make the average pick position lower rather than a bit higher.

Frichuela · Post #1111 » by **Frichuela** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:15 pm

Mikal Bridges is freaking stud. Why can’t we draft players of this caliber? 23 points in the first half and playing point when Dinwiddie sits…

I’d say he is a MUCH better player than Beal right know.

Kanyewest · Post #1112 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:08 pm

Frichuela wrote:Mikal Bridges is freaking stud. Why can’t we draft players of this caliber? 23 points in the first half and playing point when Dinwiddie sits…

I’d say he is a MUCH better player than Beal right know.

7 points in the 2nd half. Only 1 assist for the game.
But yeah, still a good pick by the 76ers, not so much of a good trade though.

payitforward · Post #1113 » by **payitforward** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:13 am

interesting first round games that's for sure.
The Knicks are tough! A lot of us here really liked Josh Hart coming out of college. For good reason.

9 and 20 · Post #1114 » by **9 and 20** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:24 am

Break out the Mitch Richmond jersey! The (only) other NBA team synonymous with losing and sadness actually winning a playoff game means there is some hope for us.

FAH1223 · Post #1115 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:37 am

9 and 20 wrote:Break out the Mitch Richmond jersey! The (only) other NBA team synonymous with losing and sadness actually winning a playoff game means there is some hope for us.

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Post #1116 » by **montestewart** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:47 am

9 and 20 wrote:Break out the Mitch Richmond jersey! The (only) other NBA team synonymous with losing and sadness actually winning a playoff game means there is some hope for us.

Not only winning, but against defending champions. By the half, Warriors play projected running away with what had been a close game, but a very exciting second-half, and the Kings never wilted.

Until they’re knocked out (which could happen in the next four games) I’m sticking with the Kings.

bsilver · Post #1117 » by **bsilver** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 3:07 pm

Brunson took over the game for the Knick win. Looks like a big reason for the Mavericks decline from last year was losing Brunson.

payitforward · Post #1118 » by **payitforward** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:16 pm

Brunson was tough out there, but he didn't win the game for them -- that would be Josh Hart, who is an incredibly good player!

tleikheen · Post #1119 » by **tleikheen** » Sun Apr 16, 2023 7:50 pm

Rui with 8 pts in 8 minutes against Memphis ,showing up right away in the playoffs

closg00 · Post #1120 » by **closg00** » Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:02 am

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