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Official Trade Thread Part XLVI

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1101 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:33 am

This was brought up before, but I wonder if we could work a deal to send Kuzma to NY for their 2 picks at 24 & 25.

They are in win now mode, and Thibs is known to not play rookies. Kuzma would be a great addition for them, and with those picks the Wizards can afford to take some long term prospects to develop.

I love the thought of following our pick at 2 (Sarr) with some upside swings at 24-26... Such as Dadiet, Furphy, AJ Johnson, for example.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1102 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jun 23, 2024 12:34 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Me too -- super-smart idea!

Hmmm, Kuzma for Vezenkov & Duarte doesn't work in the trade machine. Do we use trade exceptions to make it happen?

Also Vezenkov and Duarte are already 28 & 26 respectively. Why not go for Huerter who we would have a better chance of flipping?

Probably good answers to both these questions...

It does work in the trade machine.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8786412

And I just think the Kings would prefer to keep Huerter, Vezenkov wants out of Sacramento, and making this deal is a 2 way street. Plus I think the Wizards may just prefer the expirings anyway. Getting 13 is the main thing.

Interesting, ESPN has it failing:
https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26aszcom

I kind of think Kuz is worth more than 13, but I will leave that to the FO. I would be good either way.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1103 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:06 am

dckingsfan wrote:
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dckingsfan wrote:Hmmm, Kuzma for Vezenkov & Duarte doesn't work in the trade machine. Do we use trade exceptions to make it happen?

Also Vezenkov and Duarte are already 28 & 26 respectively. Why not go for Huerter who we would have a better chance of flipping?

Probably good answers to both these questions...

It does work in the trade machine.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8786412

And I just think the Kings would prefer to keep Huerter, Vezenkov wants out of Sacramento, and making this deal is a 2 way street. Plus I think the Wizards may just prefer the expirings anyway. Getting 13 is the main thing.

Interesting, ESPN has it failing:
https://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=26aszcom

I kind of think Kuz is worth more than 13, but I will leave that to the FO. I would be good either way.


Hmm you're right it failed on ESPN. According to that Mitchell would have to be included.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1104 » by Jkam31 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:30 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Me too -- super-smart idea!

Hmmm, Kuzma for Vezenkov & Duarte doesn't work in the trade machine. Do we use trade exceptions to make it happen?

Also Vezenkov and Duarte are already 28 & 26 respectively. Why not go for Huerter who we would have a better chance of flipping?

Probably good answers to both these questions...



It does work in the trade machine.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8786412


And I just think the Kings would prefer to keep Huerter, Vezenkov wants out of Sacramento, and making this deal is a 2 way street. Plus I think the Wizards may just prefer the expirings anyway. Getting 13 is the main thing.


We prefer to keep barnes also why not take Huerter he’s literally an asset to flip makes no sense not to take him and sell later for picks
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1105 » by Frichuela » Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:54 pm

Some SAC fans pushing for a Kuzma trade.

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1106 » by Frichuela » Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:54 pm

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1107 » by DCZards » Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:03 pm

If Sac is willing to give up the 13th pick for Kuz…take it. Draft Carrington or McCain. One should be available.

But I have my doubts that the Sac FO would make that offer.
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Post#1108 » by payitforward » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:18 pm

DCZards wrote:If Sac is willing to give up the 13th pick for Kuz…take it. Draft Carrington or McCain. One should be available.

But I have my doubts that the Sac FO would make that offer.

Agree w/ both points -- if it's there... take it! But, it seems doubtful.

(But, I think I'd pick Edey over Carrington)
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1109 » by Frichuela » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:19 pm

Odd…

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Post#1110 » by mhd » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:22 pm

Frichuela wrote:Odd…

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Makes zero sense since we might be drafting Sarr at 2, have Tristan, and have expiring stopgaps in Holmes & Bagley. We give up any value (in terms of draft capital) for any contributing player? Every trade the new FO has made has netted us draft picks. Now, if the Knicks are desperate for future cap space, than Holmes for Robinson+our pick back is a deal I'd do for sure.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1111 » by Frichuela » Sun Jun 23, 2024 4:47 pm

mhd wrote:
Frichuela wrote:Odd…

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Makes zero sense since we might be drafting Sarr at 2, have Tristan, and have expiring stopgaps in Holmes & Bagley. We give up any value (in terms of draft capital) for any contributing player? Every trade the new FO has made has netted us draft picks. Now, if the Knicks are desperate for future cap space, than Holmes for Robinson+our pick back is a deal I'd do for sure.


I think this is probably it, otherwise it does not make any sense.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1112 » by J-Ves » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:20 pm

Combining the Kuz trade and interest in Robinson rumors:

Wiz receive Robinson, picks 24 and 25 from this draft, the future first from the Wall trade is returned

Knicks receive Kuz
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1113 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:31 pm

I love that this FO has us linked to many deals. Doesn't seem like we are going to get pigeonholed...
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1114 » by gesa2 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:06 pm

We could be rumored to be part of a Robinson deal when what we are really doing is acting as a third team to facilitate, taking bad salary for picks
Making extreme statements like "only" sounds like there are "no" Jokics in this draft? Jokic is an engine that was drafted in the 2nd round. Always a chance to see diamond dropped by sloppy burgular after a theft.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1115 » by DCZards » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:16 pm

payitforward wrote:
DCZards wrote:If Sac is willing to give up the 13th pick for Kuz…take it. Draft Carrington or McCain. One should be available.

But I have my doubts that the Sac FO would make that offer.

Agree w/ both points -- if it's there... take it! But, it seems doubtful.

(But, I think I'd pick Edey over Carrington)

I’m assuming we’ve taken Sarr with the #2 pick so the Zards are unlikely to draft Edey in that situation.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1116 » by closg00 » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:29 pm

J-Ves wrote:Combining the Kuz trade and interest in Robinson rumors:

Wiz receive Robinson, picks 24 and 25 from this draft, the future first from the Wall trade is returned

Knicks receive Kuz


Some version of this makes sense, Knicks get to dump Robinson, we absorb into one the trade exceptions and get one or more of their late FRP's, this could possibly necessitate the help of another team.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1117 » by tontoz » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:32 pm

Robinson's contract isn't bad, and it's descending. I find it hard to believe the Knicks are looking to get rid of him, especially since they might lose Hartenstein.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1118 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:39 pm

DCZards wrote:
payitforward wrote:
DCZards wrote:If Sac is willing to give up the 13th pick for Kuz…take it. Draft Carrington or McCain. One should be available.

But I have my doubts that the Sac FO would make that offer.

Agree w/ both points -- if it's there... take it! But, it seems doubtful.

(But, I think I'd pick Edey over Carrington)

I’m assuming we’ve taken Sarr with the #2 pick so the Zards are unlikely to draft Edey in that situation.

Why not BPA? What if Sarr becomes a PF?
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1119 » by DCZards » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:06 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
DCZards wrote:
payitforward wrote:Agree w/ both points -- if it's there... take it! But, it seems doubtful.

(But, I think I'd pick Edey over Carrington)

I’m assuming we’ve taken Sarr with the #2 pick so the Zards are unlikely to draft Edey in that situation.

Why not BPA? What if Sarr becomes a PF?

I typically don’t disagree with the BPA argument. But in this case you’d be looking at developing Vuckevic, Sarr and Edey… with Deni and Bilal also looking like future PFs. Not to mention that Holmes or Bagley will likely be kept around for their vet presence. That’s a real logjam in the frontcourt…all of them pretty much nonshooters.

Seems to me that the best use of that 13th pick would be to add a perimeter shooter like McCain or Carrington.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVI 

Post#1120 » by DCZards » Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:08 pm

tontoz wrote:Robinson's contract isn't bad, and it's descending. I find it hard to believe the Knicks are looking to get rid of him, especially since they might lose Hartenstein.

Knicks have indicated that they are all-in on resigning Hartenstein. So I can see them looking to move Robinson.

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