Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis

hands11 · Post #1121 » by **hands11** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:20 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:Not to do this on draft night, but a pretty epic Tweet from Arenas.

my strugs were mental..i played my worst at hm..becuz i was always thinkin what the fans was thinkn about me..

http://twitter.com/#!/agentzeroshow/status/84163208641904640

We already know he's a headcase and Arenas is in the middle of one of his open trains of thought via Twitter This seems like therapy for him. As invincible as he thought he was 5 years ago, he's equally unconfident now and he's clearly very mentally scarred by gungate. I still remain convinced that Arenas' problem is mostly between his ears and is still an all-star caliber player with his current knees.

Not to mention that Arenas also commented on the Josh Smith trade rumors and that he doesn't mind backing up Nelson as long as he is used like Jason Terry.

edit: looking farther back, Arenas has been Tweeting non-stop for a few hours. Wow. Worth the read.

That dude is hilarious. Definitely not over his stuff yet though. I do feel for the brother.

TGW · Post #1122 » by **TGW** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:41 am

keynote wrote:^ I agree. Smith's trade only made sense if Arenas replaced Nelson as starting PG, once he got up to speed. I'm not sure what Nelson does that Arenas can't: Nelson too is a scoring PG with average court vision and below average defense - only shorter. But, for some reason, SVG stuck with Nelson. Go figure.

SVG stuck with Nelson because he's WAYYYYYYY more efficient than Arenas is. All Gilbert was good for last year was missing a ton of shots, turning the ball over, and playing horrific defense. How would it look to the other 13 players on the team if you rewarded a player like that, who wasn't even part of the team for the entire year, with a starting job?

SVG did what was right...he gave the better player the playing time, and sat the player that wasn't contributing.

pancakes3 · Post #1123 » by **pancakes3** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:36 pm

Good news..the knee is structurally fine..just never retrained the muscles to fire in sync..8hrs of re training..means really Freaky sore

It wasnt arthritis from the cold..it was lack of muscle use..and over using wrong muscles...so otis WAS right..gotta get stronger legs

So the lack of jumpin and explosiveness was do to not haven't the leg power I once had..so I gotta get my beef cake 3000 on lol

tweets from arenas...

man i love that guy.

JonathanJoseph · Post #1124 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:45 am

pancakes3 wrote:
Good news..the knee is structurally fine..just never retrained the muscles to fire in sync..8hrs of re training..means really Freaky sore

It wasnt arthritis from the cold..it was lack of muscle use..and over using wrong muscles...so otis WAS right..gotta get stronger legs

So the lack of jumpin and explosiveness was do to not haven't the leg power I once had..so I gotta get my beef cake 3000 on lol

tweets from arenas...

man i love that guy.

+1.

I look forward to seeing Arenas the all-star again and am very curious as to how he'll play with Dwight.

Post #1125 » by **nate33** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:34 pm

With Orlando amnestying Arenas, I think it's safe to say that the Wizards got the best of this trade, by a whole lot. Orlando is going to have to pay $62M to amnesty that contract. Lewis is only owed about $34M. So that's a savings of a whopping $28M, not to mention that Lewis was a better player than Arenas last year.

mhd · Post #1126 » by **mhd** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:41 pm

I still think Gilbert can play. He was playing really well before the suspension (Caron and Jamison were sucking). If goes to a team to let him start at PG, he can be an effective player. I wonder if any team bids on him.

Post #1127 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:42 pm

Yeah, one analyst pointed out from Orlando's viewpoint, they saved 4 million in lux tax last year from the trade, but they lost a helluvalot more at the backend.

tontoz · Post #1128 » by **tontoz** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:01 pm

Quote from shamsports

"We're the two best white shooters in the NBA." - Gilbert Arenas about J.J. Redick. And himself.

MF23 · Post #1129 » by **MF23** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:03 pm

If Mitch Kupchak is as smart as I think he is he'll sign Gilbert Arenas. He'd be great in LA. If they do that I'd bet money they'd win the championship.

Post #1130 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:52 pm

MF23 wrote:If Mitch Kupchak is as smart as I think he is he'll sign Gilbert Arenas. He'd be great in LA. If they do that I'd bet money they'd win the championship.

Kobe would exercise his veto power. :wink:

But seriously, you've got to be kidding. Arenas got a shot last season, and he stunk. I wouldn't be surprised if nobody gives him a shot this season - even for the veteran minimum. I wish he would sign with the Lakers, just so I could take you up on that bet.

MF23 · Post #1131 » by **MF23** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:06 pm

Take me up on it. LA lost because they couldn't shoot last season. Arenas is one the best shooters in the league. He'd be great playing off of 2 of the top scorers in the league. Mike Brown's emphasis on defense would affect Arenas.

No team will claim him? Right.

jivelikenice · Post #1132 » by **jivelikenice** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:19 pm

I don't know if he's a great catch & shoot guy. He needs the ball in his hands to play well. Also with Gil it comes down to the knee & conditioning. His weight has fluctuated so much over the past few seasons. That coupled with the knee issues has taken away any explosiveness he had.

hands11 · Post #1133 » by **hands11** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:34 pm

nate33 wrote:With Orlando amnestying Arenas, I think it's safe to say that the Wizards got the best of this trade, by a whole lot. Orlando is going to have to pay $62M to amnesty that contract. Lewis is only owed about $34M. So that's a savings of a whopping $28M, not to mention that Lewis was a better player than Arenas last year.

This was a great move for the Wizards simply based on the $$, the personalities, and the team direction even before this news. He was owed that money either way. Orlando amnestying only closes the door on any chance that he will offset that cost with actual production. So in that sense, it tips the deal some by taking any upside benefit out of the equation. Not that many actually though that was going to happen.

My hope for Gil is that a smaller market team picks him. I believe that is his best chance to find what is left of his game so he can enjoy a year or two of basketball.

Then he can retire with a better final chapter. He got paid. He has his mega millions.
But it is always be tragic that things played out the way they did for him. He could have been a lot more.

hands11 · Post #1134 » by **hands11** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:38 pm

jivelikenice wrote:I don't know if he's a great catch & shoot guy. He needs the ball in his hands to play well. Also with Gil it comes down to the knee & conditioning. His weight has fluctuated so much over the past few seasons. That coupled with the knee issues has taken away any explosiveness he had.

To bad he can't learn to be one.

Nick added that to his game last year and Nick was a huge rock pounder.

Post #1135 » by **LyricalRico** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:47 pm

MF23 wrote:Arenas WAS one the best shooters in the league.

Fixed. Oh I don't doubt that Gil will be picked up by somebody, but he's not the missing piece to a title. He reminds me of Nick Van Exel at the end when he made one last stop in Dallas.

Illuminaire · Post #1136 » by **Illuminaire** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:01 pm

Are the Knicks under the cap? I bet they'd love to toss a 3 million dollar flier on Gilbert.

Induveca · Post #1137 » by **Induveca** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:13 pm

Agreed, if the Knicks can swing it......I'd expect to see him in NY. Makes too much sense.

pancakes3 · Post #1138 » by **pancakes3** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:25 pm

the knicks are 2 mil below the cap as it is without figuring in the details of chandler's deal, but it's expected to be more or less what billups is making. if the knicks amnesty billups it keeps them at roughly within 1-2 mil of the cap depending on what they do with the end of their bench. they can definitely afford gil, but next season will be tough when hey have to re-up landry fields.

edit: if billups gets amnestied as expected, the lakers would do well to pick him up, lux tax be damned.

Shanghai Kid · Post #1139 » by **Shanghai Kid** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:29 pm

I see Gilbert eventually finding a role on some team as an energy scorer off the bench. But really it's all on Gil to get his confidence back and be able to make shots again.

hands11 · Post #1140 » by **hands11** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:31 pm

pancakes3 wrote:the knicks are 2 mil below the cap as it is without figuring in the details of chandler's deal, but it's expected to be more or less what billups is making. if the knicks amnesty billups it keeps them at roughly within 1-2 mil of the cap depending on what they do with the end of their bench. they can definitely afford gil, but next season will be tough when hey have to re-up landry fields.

edit: if billups gets amnestied as expected, the lakers would do well to pick him up, lux tax be damned.

I could see Billups going to a mature title team. That fits his personality and experience.

As for Gil, he should go to the Clippers, Golden State or Sac. Wherever he fits best.