NBA Games Discussion Thread

[FAH1223]

I have a hard time believing Lamb hasn't been able to crack any minutes on the Thunder. Outside of Durant, Martin and Ibaka, nobody on that team is a consistent offensive threat. Even the three aforementioned guys go cold every now and then too. I don't think Brooks trusts young players enough and is playing liabilities. The best thing that could happen to the thunder is that they lose in historic fashion and fire Brooks. I'd honestly prefer Randy to him.

Brooks is playing Derek Fisher. You think he'd play Lamb?

[dobrojim]

I used the 24 hour rule before posting this. No posts were made after Javale started Tuesday night. I wonder why?

Denver led by 14 at the end of quarter one, and by 22 at the half. Bogut ended up with 2 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks at -9 in only 18 minutes. McGee had 10 points, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks at +2 in 26 minutes.

McGee has been largely ineffective but he wasn't in his first start. George Karl decided to start McGee with overwhelmingly positive results in game 5 of that series.

c'mon man

nothing new here. JM has had moments of brilliance in the past
and is likely to have some in the future. Point remains to be seen
whether a team that features him as a major rotation player can
be successful at the higher levels. GS is so much of a perimeter
team that maybe DEN can get away with more JM since his interior
D doesn't figure to be as big a factor.

or as an old friend of mine likes to say, every dog has its day.

were I a betting man, I would be betting on GS to close out tonight.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I have a hard time believing Lamb hasn't been able to crack any minutes on the Thunder. Outside of Durant, Martin and Ibaka, nobody on that team is a consistent offensive threat. Even the three aforementioned guys go cold every now and then too. I don't think Brooks trusts young players enough and is playing liabilities. The best thing that could happen to the thunder is that they lose in historic fashion and fire Brooks. I'd honestly prefer Randy to him.

nuposse, I agree that Randy is better than Scott Brooks. Harden helped that team get to the finals last season, not great coaching.

As to whether they should have maxed Harden and let Ibaka walk, Jeremy Lamb and a pick were part of what OKC got. Combined they don't cost much, which let OKC keep Ibaka. Ultimately, time will tell how much Presti erred if at all. What if OKC drafts a Dieng or Schroeder or Adetokunbo, and that player and Jeremy Lamb both get good?

Presti might not look terrible in the long run and then again he might.

[nuposse04]

I have a hard time believing Lamb hasn't been able to crack any minutes on the Thunder. Outside of Durant, Martin and Ibaka, nobody on that team is a consistent offensive threat. Even the three aforementioned guys go cold every now and then too. I don't think Brooks trusts young players enough and is playing liabilities. The best thing that could happen to the thunder is that they lose in historic fashion and fire Brooks. I'd honestly prefer Randy to him.

nuposse, I agree that Randy is better than Scott Brooks. Harden helped that team get to the finals last season, not great coaching.

As to whether they should have maxed Harden and let Ibaka walk, Jeremy Lamb and a pick were part of what OKC got. and they don't cost much. Ultimately, time will tell how much Presti erred if at all. What if OKC drafts a Dieng or Schroeder or Adetokunbo, and that player and Jeremy Lamb both get good?

Presti might not look terrible in the long run and then again he might.

I think if they let brooks go, they'll be better off. If one of Lamb/P. Jones III pans out a decent bench/6th man they'll be set. I have no problem with the moves Presti made outside of Perkins. The fact he starts for a team in the playoffs is an abomination. He's a rich man's Joel Anthony. Which is like...going from in debt 50 grand to maybe being in the green.

One thing Brooks does well I think, is help institute a culture that develops elite talent well. Potentially 3 top 10 talents have come out of OKC. You don't simply see that...anywhere. He is a terrible in game coach though.

I think a lineup next season for OKC should be like this by years end should things play out well:

Westbrook
Lamb
Durant
PJ III
Ibaka

and depending on how big the competition they face, you can swap out PJ III with Dieng and move Ibaka to the 4. Every single one of those players can hit a shot. Thabo is terrible offensively, and Martin is too streaky. They're actually probably better off letting martin expire and signing Webster to the MLE

But that would sadden me...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I used the 24 hour rule before posting this. No posts were made after Javale started Tuesday night. I wonder why?

Denver led by 14 at the end of quarter one, and by 22 at the half. Bogut ended up with 2 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks at -9 in only 18 minutes. McGee had 10 points, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks at +2 in 26 minutes.

McGee has been largely ineffective but he wasn't in his first start. George Karl decided to start McGee with overwhelmingly positive results in game 5 of that series.

c'mon man

nothing new here. JM has had moments of brilliance in the past
and is likely to have some in the future. Point remains to be seen
whether a team that features him as a major rotation player can
be successful at the higher levels. GS is so much of a perimeter
team that maybe DEN can get away with more JM since his interior
D doesn't figure to be as big a factor.

or as an old friend of mine likes to say, every dog has its day.

were I a betting man, I would be betting on GS to close out tonight.

I wouldn't take that bet. You could be spot on, jim. GS is favored at home.

[AFM]

Melo is really laying an egg this series. WTF he doing?

[hands11]

Dray got minutes down the stretch in game 6 and sank 2 big FTs to hold the lead.

Series tied at 3-3

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Wizards could use a player with Andray's skillset. Blatche never had teammates who defend like
Okafor, Nene or Ariza. He played for Flip and EJ when Wall was still less-than-good

The Wizards also could use McGee instead ofSeraphin in terms of what each provides off the bench.

[AFM]

He sank them both because he wanted the free Chik Fil A

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

George Karl has allowed Corey Brewer to jack a lot if bad shots. This series he has been out coached by Mark Jackson.

[Deeptu McPullup]

The Wizards could use a player with Andray's skillset. Blatche never had teammates who defend like Okafor, Nene or Ariza. He played for Flip and EJ when Wall was still less-than-good.

Zeller could do a fair Best-A-Blatche impersonation with markedly less probability of involvement with lap dance Tuesdays.

The Wizards also could use McGee instead of Seraphin in terms of what each provides off the bench.

McGee providing a $12 million dollar per year contract off the bench is nowhere to be found on the Chik-Fil-A value menu. We can at least say of Kevin that his contract is more like a Kids meal at Fork-N-Pork.

That Seraphin has, on occasion, seen me blurt out "Kids meal!" and "Fork-N-Pork!" while he's on the court for play related reasons is a cause for some concern.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I said nothing about contracts, but I will say McGee's trade value and contract status is better than Nene's.

[TGW]

Nene is a flat out better player than Javale. Javale is a borderline mentally handicapped individual.

[queridiculo]

SMH. McGee is absolutely **** useless.

I'd take Nene over that joker any day.

[TGW]

SMH. McGee is absolutely **** useless.

I'd take Nene over that joker any day.

They should have played Mozgov over Javale...honestly.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nene is a flat out better player than Javale. Javale is a borderline mentally handicapped individual.

Nene is owed $39 million and his game is in rapid decline due to a chronic physical impairment which causes him to miss games at times. Also, he is on the wrong side of 30. He is flat better than Javale when healthy, but how often is that?

McGee is young, healthy, and indeed has a better, more moveable contract than Nene's.

All I posted was McGee's skills off the bench would be better than Kevin's, but since you guys want to go there deal with Nene's worth and health every time you hate on McGee.

[queridiculo]

McGee is owed $34 million and absolutely devoid of any sense for the game of basketball. What's it matter whether he is young and healthy?

[TGW]

What's the point comparing Javale to Serpahin? We all know Seraphin sucks, but he's not being paid 12 million a year to be a loose-cannon on the court. You might as well state that Dwight Howard's skills off the bench would be better than Seraphin too.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

No point.

George Karl blew it not adjusting to Draymond Green with Bogut. Karl had Chandler at PF and the result was GS attacked McGee sending Green to the rim and Bogut.


Mark Jackson deserves kudos for some fine coaching. Also, the Warriors have a young team that is only going to get better.

[hands11]

Denver done in the first round.. Again.

I heard Iggy made some noise about wanting to go some place else. Denver would be so luck if they could loss that contract. Its a player option. But why would Iggy walk from 16M. That would be stupid.

But then McGee would be tied for highest paid player on the team at $10,750,000 with Ty at $10,786,517


Man, Bogut has really been stepping it up.