Andray Blatche - Resurgence Thread ( Merged )

hands11 · Post #1161 » by **hands11** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:45 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:
hands11 wrote:dandridge 10

How much did Kwame Brown just get paid ?

I have no idea. What's he have to do with Blatche?

Value of a big given talent, attitude, etc. Really. You couldn't follow that ?

Let me help. Kwame was just signed for 7M. Yes, Kwame.

If all Dray ends up being is a back up, he is not overpaid for the next two years. That is the worst case scenario.

Post #1162 » by **nate33** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:54 pm

This talk of amnestying Blatche is silly. There is zero chance that Leonsis pays Blatche $22M just to walk away. Blatche is movable. All it'll take is a stretch of reasonably good games and someone will give up an expiring contract or maybe a longer contract of a mediocre but useful player.

fishercob · Post #1163 » by **fishercob** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:02 pm

nate33 wrote:This talk of amnestying Blatche is silly. There is zero chance that Leonsis pays Blatche $22M just to walk away. Blatche is movable. All it'll take is a stretch of reasonably good games and someone will give up an expiring contract or maybe a longer contract of a mediocre but useful player.

Correct (this is something Spence would say. I can't wait for Redskins season to end, so he can show up here again and start pissing people off again. He's smart, funny, and always stirs sh*t up).

Not to mention the fact that there's no way we use the amnesty on anyone other than Lewis.

Benjammin · Post #1164 » by **Benjammin** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:03 pm

hands11 wrote:
dandridge 10 wrote:
hands11 wrote:dandridge 10

How much did Kwame Brown just get paid ?

I have no idea. What's he have to do with Blatche?

Value of a big given talent, attitude, etc. Really. You couldn't follow that ?

Let me help. Kwame was just signed for 7M. Yes, Kwame.

If all Dray ends up being is a back up, he is not overpaid for the next two years. That is the worst case scenario.

It's not quite the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is that his attitude, example, and demeanor have a deleterious effect on our young players and the team in general. I do agree with nate that the likelihood is Blatche will have a period of good games that perhaps would lead a team to trade for him for a similar contract or perhaps even an expiring deal. The key is not to hesitate in making that deal and thinking that the fool's gold is real when it comes to Dray.

dandridge 10 · Post #1165 » by **dandridge 10** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:05 pm

hands11 wrote:
dandridge 10 wrote:
hands11 wrote:dandridge 10

How much did Kwame Brown just get paid ?

I have no idea. What's he have to do with Blatche?

Value of a big given talent, attitude, etc. Really. You couldn't follow that ?

Let me help. Kwame was just signed for 7M. Yes, Kwame.

If all Dray ends up being is a back up, he is not overpaid for the next two years. That is the worst case scenario.

So, let me get this straight, you are using how much another guy got paid to represent Blatche's "value." Geez, using Lewis as a measuring stick, maybe we should pay Singleton 20+ million a year. I mean, they both are SF, seem to both have good attitudes, both same size and shape, seem like they both have same work ethic. Come on, I thought you were better than that.

BTW, just for sh*ts and giggles, show me anywhere when I mentioned whether Dray would be overpaid or not for a back-up. My comments above were that I think Dray would become a distraction if he was made a back-up, and that, IMHO, this is not what this team needs, especially since we are in the rebuilding process and Dray has not shown he is a difference maker in wins and losses. Frankly, I don't care what Blatche is paid.

dandridge 10 · Post #1166 » by **dandridge 10** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:09 pm

BTW, for the record, I have not, nor would I, suggest to amnesty Blatche, just because his contract is not that bad. However, I definitely would move him for an expiring, late pick, and/or a capable vet.

WizarDynasty · Post #1167 » by **WizarDynasty** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:29 pm

i think the problem for blatche is that Saunders keeps comparing him to Garnett who truly is a finese big.
There is no such thing as floor bound finesse big. If you are a floor bound big, you have to used strength and quickness.
Blatche does not use his body strength as an asset whenever he attempts a shot in the paint because he believes that he is more athletic than he really is.
If Blatche can't learn to shoot shots with a higher arc---and if he doesn't start to bang his body against an opponent to knock them off balance before shooting a weak layup, we are better off bringing him off the bench and giving those minutes to Singleton or Seraphin.

queridiculo · Post #1168 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:35 pm

I think it's pretty safe to say at this point that the problem with Blatche is none other than Blatche.

Couldn't even go a game without popping off about his role, what makes you think he'd take a benching any more gracefully?

Nivek · Post #1169 » by **Nivek** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:04 pm

Send Blatche to the bench -- even in a prominent role -- and be ready for a **** of pouting, complaining and even worse effort. Blatche sees himself as a starter. Actually, he sees himself as the team's star. He's not giving that up "for the good of the team." "Good of the team" is just about the last thing on his mind.

tontoz · Post #1170 » by **tontoz** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:20 pm

Now i know why Blatche was made captain. This team sucks and Blatche is the Captain of Suck.

DaRealHibachi · Post #1171 » by **DaRealHibachi** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:29 pm

hands11 wrote:
dandridge 10 wrote:At this point in time, I think the organization needs to do anything they can do to dump Blatche. The bottom line is that he is not going to help this team win. If anything, he will hurt them. Moreover, while I wouldn't mind seeing him benched or his minutes significantly curtailed, does anyone really believe that such an action will really "wake him up"? If you do, give me what you are smoking. Also, does anyone believe that Blatche will just accept a reduced role like a professional? Hell no. I know some of you will say "that don't matter," but it does because it is going to just create more dissension and distractions in the lockerroom. Again, because of EG's misguided faith in Blatche, I think the Wizards are now in the position where they have no choice to just let him go, even if it is for a can of beans. I suspect that Blatche's trade value, if there is any to speak of right now, will go nowwhere but down from here.

Come on people. It has been two games. He didn't suck last year and I doubt he completely forgot how to play basketball over on summer. The guys averaged 17 and 8 last year and he was injured the entire year until the end. The three years before that he shot .478, .471 and .474 He has posted better stats every year he has played.

I hope the same people that are claiming Nicks small sample size are not the ones over reacting to two games from Dray.

So wait, wait just a second...

You critize Wall because of the bad games he has recently (as if you completely forgot how well he played last year), but when it's Dray, you state it's "just 2 games" and plain ignore the fact that this lazy bum hasn't improved a single bit over the last couple of years...???

Congrats dude, you just won my annual "Hypocrite of the Year" award; just in time too.... :-?

popper · Post #1172 » by **popper** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:38 pm

The foregoing is why I recommended earlier that Blatch be separated from the team for a period of time so that he can get stronger and in better shape. That way his bad attitude won't effect the other players. I'm curious to see what kind of numbers Booker would average as the starter. I would also like a 2 or 3 game experiment to see what Seraphon could do as well.

MF23 · Post #1173 » by **MF23** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:30 pm

Fishercob, I was an athlete and I've had groups of people talk sh#t about me. I didn't know them and they didn't know me but you've got to know that's coming. Coaches and strangers are going to talk down to you sometimes but I used it as fuel. Blatche does the opposite as he deflects and probably pacifies himself in other ways. He doesn't take the blame for anything and that's probably his biggest detractor.

fishercob · Post #1174 » by **fishercob** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:32 pm

Did you play professionally? D1? What sport?

sfam · Post #1175 » by **sfam** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:46 pm

popper wrote:The foregoing is why I recommended earlier that Blatch be separated from the team for a period of time so that he can get stronger and in better shape. That way his bad attitude won't effect the other players. I'm curious to see what kind of numbers Booker would average as the starter. I would also like a 2 or 3 game experiment to see what Seraphon could do as well.

We call this time away from the team the "offseason". Blatche clearly didn't use it to get stronger and in better shape. He used it to headline at a strip joint.

MF23 · Post #1176 » by **MF23** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:00 pm

I primarily played basketball in my youth but a series of injuries and interest in other things put an end to my career. My original point was Blatche doesn't have to play sports if he's sensitive. He chose that profession and he needs to deal with the consequences of being lazy.

The Fax · Post #1177 » by **The Fax** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:56 am

Please please please go away Blatche. I am tired of his idiotic shot selection and horrific defense. If only there was a way we could have wiped him off the books and gotten him off the team...oh there's an amnesty clause you say? Smh.

JonathanJoseph · Post #1178 » by **JonathanJoseph** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:26 am

Blatche has been putrid, but the focus and hatred on him is not productive. EVERYONE has been bad and focusing that ire on Blatche is not productive. So unless you are hating on Wall and McGee too, give it a rest.

He needs to play better (and he should/will) so that he has some trade value around the deadline.

MJG · Post #1179 » by **MJG** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:27 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:Blatche has been putrid, but the focus and hatred on him is not productive. EVERYONE has been bad and focusing that ire on Blatche is not productive. So unless you are hating on Wall and McGee too, give it a rest.

Nothing posted on this board is productive.

mohammed10 · Post #1180 » by **mohammed10** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:44 am

The Fax wrote:Please please please go away Blatche. I am tired of his idiotic shot selection and horrific defense. If only there was a way we could have wiped him off the books and gotten him off the team...oh there's an amnesty clause you say? Smh.

Hmmm...maybe it's time to retile this thread?