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Post#1181 » by LyricalRico » Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:20 am

Induveca wrote:We're all fans here rooting for the same team, and if you as a moderator know 50+% of the board is rooting for Arenas to succeed as a Wiz, the last thing you should be doing as a moderator is your "tapdancing on his grave" schtick.


Really? So moderators shouldn't express opinions that aren't the same as the majority? I get that sometimes I express myself strongly, but many here do. I don't think that's a crime. And what's between me and Krizko, is between me and Krizko (like miller and JWiz).

Riddle me this: if I made 100 posts a day about why I think Gil is the greatest player ever, would you be saying "hey dude, you're a mod so stop trolling with all the over the top I-love-Arenas schtick and be more balanced"? No, you wouldn't. You'd be saying "gee Rico, you're one of my favorite posters and your use of emoticons is awesome" because I'd be saying what you want to hear and what you agree with.

One thing I find interesting is that the Ernie Grunfeld debate has been going on for far longer and has also been heated but everyone seems to make room for our disagreements. Clogs and I frequently have a laugh about it. So we've proven that as a group we can discuss topics even where we have diametrically opposed views. Heck, some people have even been persuaded to somewhat modify their opinions about Ernie, for better or worse. But for some reason, there is so much emotion wrapped up in the Arenas discussion that it's reduced to love or hate with no in-between and no room for discussion. Again, very interesting.

So if you want to call me a troll and regard my posts as schtick, I can live with that. Regardless of how the Gil situation turns out, I'm sure we'll both continue to rep the Wiz no matter who is on the roster and that's all that really matters.
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Re: Arenas for Vince or dump Arenas for cap space? 

Post#1182 » by fishercob » Thu Oct 7, 2010 12:37 am

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Dat2U wrote:Whenever Gil speaks to the media he's an open book. Back when he was popular, we & the media praised him for being refreshingly honest. Now we critique & criticize everything that comes out his mouth. What changed for that to happen? $100 million dollars, a bum knee and one regrettable mistake.


I am not going to apolgize for quoting something that somebody said. Especially not when they are "refreshingly honest", which would mean that whatever they say is actually true. Seriously - I don't think you can call somebody "refreshingly honest" and then complain that they are misunderstood by the people they are being so "refreshingly honest" with.

And I don't think people are just now starting to "critique & criticize everything that comes out of his mouth". People have been doing that since Day 1 with Arenas (and any other popular athlete for that matter). What HAS changed is that some of his supporters are trying to transform him into some kind of victim our hearts should bleed for, some kind of holy martyr that doesn't deserve anything that has ever happened to him and who has been unjustly wronged so such an extent that anything less than blind, unflinching support is tantamount to an act of treason against the entire franchise.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that.


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Re: Arenas for Vince or dump Arenas for cap space? 

Post#1183 » by Induveca » Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:27 am

fishercob wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Whenever Gil speaks to the media he's an open book. Back when he was popular, we & the media praised him for being refreshingly honest. Now we critique & criticize everything that comes out his mouth. What changed for that to happen? $100 million dollars, a bum knee and one regrettable mistake.


I am not going to apolgize for quoting something that somebody said. Especially not when they are "refreshingly honest", which would mean that whatever they say is actually true. Seriously - I don't think you can call somebody "refreshingly honest" and then complain that they are misunderstood by the people they are being so "refreshingly honest" with.

And I don't think people are just now starting to "critique & criticize everything that comes out of his mouth". People have been doing that since Day 1 with Arenas (and any other popular athlete for that matter). What HAS changed is that some of his supporters are trying to transform him into some kind of victim our hearts should bleed for, some kind of holy martyr that doesn't deserve anything that has ever happened to him and who has been unjustly wronged so such an extent that anything less than blind, unflinching support is tantamount to an act of treason against the entire franchise.

Sorry, but I'm not buying that.


This is complete bullsh*t, Rico.


Amen. Honestly, thread should be locked at this point it's become a flame war between a mod and multiple users. Unfitting of this board.
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Post#1184 » by LyricalRico » Thu Oct 7, 2010 1:50 am

fishercob wrote:This is complete bullsh*t, Rico.


:lol:

Yeah, I know. I just figured other folks would have the same sense of humor as clogs in the Ernie thread. I'll back off, fish. The offseason is over and we should all be focused on having a successful season.

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Post#1185 » by miller31time » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:03 am

LyricalRico wrote:And what's between me and Krizko, is between me and Krizko (like miller and JWiz).


To be clear, I don't hate JWiz.

I just think he's a disgrace of a human being and unfit to post on an internet message board.

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Post#1186 » by JWizmentality » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:11 am

miller31time wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:And what's between me and Krizko, is between me and Krizko (like miller and JWiz).


To be clear, I don't hate JWiz.

I just think he's a disgrace of a human being and unfit to post on an internet message board.

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Re: Arenas for Vince or dump Arenas for cap space? 

Post#1187 » by Ruzious » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:03 am

Induveca wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:So quoting Gilbert Arenas is "trolling" now? That's pretty funny. What's next, Krizko? Are you going to claim that Gil himself is a "Gil Hater" because he's talking about not finishing his career in Washington?

:lol:

(Oh and nice job trying to report my post as "illegal" just because you disagree. A true D-Bag move, son.)


Rico, just read this as well. Pathetic. "D-Bag". I think it's offensive and unworthy of the trust you've been given. Calling out and alienating customers for stating their mind is not something you should be doing in your unpaid, yet *important* position here on a large scale forum.

I'm a man who has owned/owns huge online communities (250,000+ subscribers with 80+ moderators) and I would have axed you immediately for your comments over these past two pages. DISGRACEFUL job representing the brand here. Customer is always right, you forget you're not a customer when you decide to represent a company.

Stick to the Arenas debate, calling a customer a "D-Bag" in your position is unacceptable.

I had to do a triple take on that post to see if it was serious. Wow, I thought I could be a pretty obnoxious blow-hard, but you've outdone anything I've done by 10-fold right there. Kudos Indy - now I have a standard to shoot for. In all seriousnesss - as Rico said, we should leave this between him and Krizko.
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Post#1188 » by Induveca » Thu Oct 7, 2010 4:38 am

I admit it, caught me at a bad time.......had a rough day and let off some steam. Sorry fellas.
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Post#1189 » by TheGreatWall » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:24 pm

Newest from Wilbon:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06693.html

How can Gilbert Arenas drama possibly start this early? We can't even get through the first preseason game without Arenas saying something that raises eyebrows and causes most of us to say: "Are we at this point already? In the very first week of October?"

Okay, Arenas on Wednesday backed off his comments from Tuesday night after the preseason opener, the ones where he made it sound like he was halfway out the door. He told The Post's Michael Lee after practice that he's not demanding a trade, not requesting a trade, not even suggesting the Washington Wizards trade him. He says he remains committed to the Wizards and he wants to help make John Wall a star. You get the drift.

The interest here isn't in parsing every single thing that comes out of Arenas's mouth, a local obsession for some that's become increasingly tiresome. If I ran the Wizards (a nightmare more than a fantasy), I'd reduce the Arenas issue to this: either see evidence he can return to being the player he once was and be an asset as a teammate or prepare to get rid of him by any means necessary.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Arenas hater. In fact, as a columnist I've found him to be completely engaging, often delightful even after losses or in difficult times. Last summer we stood in Nordstrom in Chicago and talked for an hour, about everything and nothing. It's too bad about the legal troubles and the various dramas because Arenas was once a top-10 player in the NBA and a guy who behaved quite neighborly. But that was then. It's come now to something that appears to be untenable.

I believe Arenas can be a productive player in the NBA again . . . just not here in Washington. There's too much history to overcome, too much disappointment. You can come back from injury, from a bad season or a tough playoff loss. But in Arenas's case the disappointment defines his time here. The playoff losses to Cleveland, the unfortunate injuries, the hardheadedness when it came to rehabilitating after the first surgery, the decline in play, the felonious gun charges, the long NBA suspension. When is the last time something good happened to Arenas professionally? Great athletes beat odds all the time; it's what drives them and in a great many cases obsesses them. But they almost always need a boost from a change of scenery.


Team owner Ted Leonsis and President Ernie Grunfeld should continue doing what they're doing, saying nice things about Arenas and how they want him here . . . all the while trying to trade him to anybody that will take him. If Michael Jordan could trade what was left of Juwan Howard's huge contract in 2001, then Grunfeld ought to be able to trade Arenas, even if it is for 50 cents on the dollar.

When you're starting over, as the Wizards are, you don't keep holdovers . . . unless they possess something extraordinary that makes them an asset. Go ahead and tell me what Arenas has that's extraordinary? Talent? Not anymore. Demeanor? It's terrible. I'm not saying he can't recapture these things; it's just not going to happen here.

So far this season, which actually is three weeks from beginning, Arenas has made two public impressions.

One, he said on the very first day the team assembled officially, "I'm not going to smile." Great.

Two, in the minutes after a pretty darn good preseason debut for John Wall, sounded to most folks like he'd just as soon move on. Actually, I don't blame Arenas; management should make sure he moves on sooner rather than later. But Arenas's demeanor couldn't have helped. Players around the league are joking about his appearance, which for those of you of a certain age is akin to the unkempt Grady character on "Sanford and Son." Brendan Haywood said Arenas looks like Bill Cosby in "Uptown Saturday Night" which is also dead-on. Either way, general managers and club executives around the league are ever more likely than usual to think, "Okay, Gil's even more unstable than usual!" Instead of reporting on the first day and treating it like a job interview, where he could show off his brand and what an asset he can be, Arenas announced a no-smile policy.

See, the Wizards need to stop thinking Arenas is going to change and divorce themselves from this mess. They need to focus their energies on Wall, JaVale McGee and Yi Jianlian, who at 7-feet has some really nice swingman skills. (Maybe they can peddle Gil to Minnesota and David Kahn. He collects point guards . . . and guys who, uh, color outside the lines, such as Michael Beasley. You think Arenas is trouble; Gil is Grant Hill and David Robinson compared with Beasley.)

When you're trying to build something positive, you don't need an energy drain, which is what that postgame session with Arenas was Tuesday night. Wall played terrifically in his preseason debut. He must be among the fastest players in the league and at 6 feet 4, he's no smurf. He's about the same size as Chicago's Derrick Rose and has some of the same skills, starting with speed. Most of the attention this fall should be on Wall, his successes and failures as a rookie, his evolution, and not on whether Arenas is healthy, whether he's happy, whether he's getting enough shots, whether he's a 1 or a 2, whether the Wizards are his team or Wall's.

The Arenas drama should simply play out elsewhere, including the thing about Arenas that he doesn't want you to know . . . that he does care about people's perceptions, he does care whether people cheer him or not. He's 28 years old and I think it's quite possible Arenas has some very good, if not great, basketball left in him, and I presume some goodwill as well. Just not here. Wall doesn't need that kind of mentoring, from someone whose self-absorption was once charming but now seems a detriment.

If the Wizards are smart and resourceful about this (and yes, a little lucky to find a trade partner) they'll wish Arenas well and send him on his way, even if it just means home for a paid vacation, and either bring in a real mentor for Wall who has known something other than disappointment lately or just let the rookie go it alone. Just about anything is better than more of the drama in recent seasons that killed what the Wizards had going five, six seasons ago, a drama starring Gilbert Arenas.
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Post#1190 » by LyricalRico » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:30 pm

Induveca wrote:I admit it, caught me at a bad time.......had a rough day and let off some steam. Sorry fellas.


No worries, mate. A good whooping on the Cavs tonight will bring us all together again. (Isn't it funny how our first two games are against the guys we exiled at the trade deadline last season?)
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Post#1191 » by nate33 » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:48 pm

What a horrible article. I just don't understand what the media expects from Gilbert Arenas. If he talks too much in the locker room, it means he's a distraction. If he's quiet, it means he's a sulky drama queen. If he shoots too much on the court, it means he can't coexist with Wall. If he tries to fit in as a second-option role player, it means he's not worth his contract.

Arenas, keep doing what you are doing. I think you're doing everything right. Keep busting your ass in practice. Continue to take care of your knee. Keep listening to your coach. Keep mentoring John Wall. Keep hitting spot-up jumpers while working hard on D. Say as little as possible to the media and let your game speak for itself. Eff them.
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Post#1192 » by Ed Wood » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:48 pm

TheGreatWall wrote:Newest from Wilbon:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06693.html

How can Gilbert Arenas drama possibly start this early? We can't even get through the first preseason game without Arenas saying something that raises eyebrows and causes most of us to say: "Are we at this point already? In the very first week of October?"

Okay, Arenas on Wednesday backed off his comments from Tuesday night after the preseason opener, the ones where he made it sound like he was halfway out the door. He told The Post's Michael Lee after practice that he's not demanding a trade, not requesting a trade, not even suggesting the Washington Wizards trade him. He says he remains committed to the Wizards and he wants to help make John Wall a star. You get the drift.

The interest here isn't in parsing every single thing that comes out of Arenas's mouth, a local obsession for some that's become increasingly tiresome. If I ran the Wizards (a nightmare more than a fantasy), I'd reduce the Arenas issue to this: either see evidence he can return to being the player he once was and be an asset as a teammate or prepare to get rid of him by any means necessary.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Arenas hater. In fact, as a columnist I've found him to be completely engaging, often delightful even after losses or in difficult times. Last summer we stood in Nordstrom in Chicago and talked for an hour, about everything and nothing. It's too bad about the legal troubles and the various dramas because Arenas was once a top-10 player in the NBA and a guy who behaved quite neighborly. But that was then. It's come now to something that appears to be untenable.

I believe Arenas can be a productive player in the NBA again . . . just not here in Washington. There's too much history to overcome, too much disappointment. You can come back from injury, from a bad season or a tough playoff loss. But in Arenas's case the disappointment defines his time here. The playoff losses to Cleveland, the unfortunate injuries, the hardheadedness when it came to rehabilitating after the first surgery, the decline in play, the felonious gun charges, the long NBA suspension. When is the last time something good happened to Arenas professionally? Great athletes beat odds all the time; it's what drives them and in a great many cases obsesses them. But they almost always need a boost from a change of scenery.


Team owner Ted Leonsis and President Ernie Grunfeld should continue doing what they're doing, saying nice things about Arenas and how they want him here . . . all the while trying to trade him to anybody that will take him. If Michael Jordan could trade what was left of Juwan Howard's huge contract in 2001, then Grunfeld ought to be able to trade Arenas, even if it is for 50 cents on the dollar.

When you're starting over, as the Wizards are, you don't keep holdovers . . . unless they possess something extraordinary that makes them an asset. Go ahead and tell me what Arenas has that's extraordinary? Talent? Not anymore. Demeanor? It's terrible. I'm not saying he can't recapture these things; it's just not going to happen here.

So far this season, which actually is three weeks from beginning, Arenas has made two public impressions.

One, he said on the very first day the team assembled officially, "I'm not going to smile." Great.

Two, in the minutes after a pretty darn good preseason debut for John Wall, sounded to most folks like he'd just as soon move on. Actually, I don't blame Arenas; management should make sure he moves on sooner rather than later. But Arenas's demeanor couldn't have helped. Players around the league are joking about his appearance, which for those of you of a certain age is akin to the unkempt Grady character on "Sanford and Son." Brendan Haywood said Arenas looks like Bill Cosby in "Uptown Saturday Night" which is also dead-on. Either way, general managers and club executives around the league are ever more likely than usual to think, "Okay, Gil's even more unstable than usual!" Instead of reporting on the first day and treating it like a job interview, where he could show off his brand and what an asset he can be, Arenas announced a no-smile policy.

See, the Wizards need to stop thinking Arenas is going to change and divorce themselves from this mess. They need to focus their energies on Wall, JaVale McGee and Yi Jianlian, who at 7-feet has some really nice swingman skills. (Maybe they can peddle Gil to Minnesota and David Kahn. He collects point guards . . . and guys who, uh, color outside the lines, such as Michael Beasley. You think Arenas is trouble; Gil is Grant Hill and David Robinson compared with Beasley.)

When you're trying to build something positive, you don't need an energy drain, which is what that postgame session with Arenas was Tuesday night. Wall played terrifically in his preseason debut. He must be among the fastest players in the league and at 6 feet 4, he's no smurf. He's about the same size as Chicago's Derrick Rose and has some of the same skills, starting with speed. Most of the attention this fall should be on Wall, his successes and failures as a rookie, his evolution, and not on whether Arenas is healthy, whether he's happy, whether he's getting enough shots, whether he's a 1 or a 2, whether the Wizards are his team or Wall's.

The Arenas drama should simply play out elsewhere, including the thing about Arenas that he doesn't want you to know . . . that he does care about people's perceptions, he does care whether people cheer him or not. He's 28 years old and I think it's quite possible Arenas has some very good, if not great, basketball left in him, and I presume some goodwill as well. Just not here. Wall doesn't need that kind of mentoring, from someone whose self-absorption was once charming but now seems a detriment.

If the Wizards are smart and resourceful about this (and yes, a little lucky to find a trade partner) they'll wish Arenas well and send him on his way, even if it just means home for a paid vacation, and either bring in a real mentor for Wall who has known something other than disappointment lately or just let the rookie go it alone. Just about anything is better than more of the drama in recent seasons that killed what the Wizards had going five, six seasons ago, a drama starring Gilbert Arenas.


You see, quite apart from everything said about Arenas and how the team should handle him in there Wilbon fails my David Kahn Litmus test, which calls into question the validity of everything else going on in there. David Kahn has been a pretty decent executive for Minnesota up to this point, as anybody who's a fan of the Timberwolves and they'll tell you they prefer this iteration of the team to what was going on before he arrived, and yet because he drafted two point guards in one draft he's become an easy in-joke to establish quick NBA in-the-know cred. "Hey, listen to me, I know David Kahn is dumb..." But Kahn ain't really that dumb, and well from there I just sorta assume the rest of whatever is going on is also wrong.

But I do think he has a good point when he suggests that Gil no longer has the talent to make him worthwhile and follows that up by suggesting the team ought to be concentrating its efforts on Yi, but not Blatche apparently; that sounded like a well reasoned argument to me.
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Post#1193 » by queridiculo » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:50 pm

Two words, **** Wilbon.
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Post#1194 » by AceDegenerate » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:53 pm

Seriously, when was the last time Wilbon actually did any research for an article? The guy waits until he see's smoke and runs around screaming FIRE FIRE. It's pathetic at this point and I'm sick of it.
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Post#1195 » by willbcocks » Thu Oct 7, 2010 2:55 pm

Four words: Kahn is that dumb.
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Post#1196 » by queridiculo » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:01 pm

nate33 wrote:What a horrible article. I just don't understand what the media expects from Gilbert Arenas. If he talks too much in the locker room, it means he's a distraction. If he's quiet, it means he's a sulky drama queen. If he shoots too much on the court, it means he can't coexist with Wall. If he tries to fit in as a second-option role player, it means he's not worth his contract.

Arenas, keep doing what you are doing. I think you're doing everything right. Keep busting your ass in practice. Continue to take care of your knee. Keep listening to your coach. Keep mentoring John Wall. Keep hitting spot-up jumpers while working hard on D. Say as little as possible to the media and let your game speak for itself. Eff them.


It's really **** sad isn't it?

I know this is a long shot, but would anybody be willing to contribute money to take out a WaPo ad with a thank you letter to Gilbert Arenas to start the season.
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Post#1197 » by LyricalRico » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:07 pm

willbcocks wrote:Four words: Kahn is that dumb.


:nod:

As for the article itself, I think Wilbon's point that Gil's newfound melancholy disposition can potentially be an "energy drain" is a valid concern. He's assuming the worst, but I don't think we can deny that the possiblity for the worst exists, no matter how small we may believe the odds to be. I certainly don't want the team to win 4 or 5 in a row and then Gil is like "sorry, I still refuse to smile or join in the celebration of the team's success because I'm all business'. I'm not saying that's guaranteed or even likely to happen, but for a guy who has gotten carried away with his persona before, I think it's worth mentioning.

I think it's also worth mentioing that his new "all business" approach could actually be helping the team. I hadn't considered that before but now that I think about it, him being focused only on basketball means that training camp was about what it should be. It wasn't about who could pull the funniest prank, as it may have been in previous years. And that could be a reason why the team has come out looking ready to play. And if that's the case, hooray for Gil. Having a stoic figure in the locker room might actually be a plus for a young team, again assuming that Gil doesn't carry it to the extreme.

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Post#1198 » by AceDegenerate » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:15 pm

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nate33 wrote:What a horrible article. I just don't understand what the media expects from Gilbert Arenas. If he talks too much in the locker room, it means he's a distraction. If he's quiet, it means he's a sulky drama queen. If he shoots too much on the court, it means he can't coexist with Wall. If he tries to fit in as a second-option role player, it means he's not worth his contract.

Arenas, keep doing what you are doing. I think you're doing everything right. Keep busting your ass in practice. Continue to take care of your knee. Keep listening to your coach. Keep mentoring John Wall. Keep hitting spot-up jumpers while working hard on D. Say as little as possible to the media and let your game speak for itself. Eff them.


It's really **** sad isn't it?

I know this is a long shot, but would anybody be willing to contribute money to take out a WaPo ad with a thank you letter to Gilbert Arenas to start the season.


I would be interested.
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Post#1199 » by Ruzious » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:33 pm

nate33 wrote:What a horrible article. I just don't understand what the media expects from Gilbert Arenas. If he talks too much in the locker room, it means he's a distraction. If he's quiet, it means he's a sulky drama queen. If he shoots too much on the court, it means he can't coexist with Wall. If he tries to fit in as a second-option role player, it means he's not worth his contract.

Arenas, keep doing what you are doing. I think you're doing everything right. Keep busting your ass in practice. Continue to take care of your knee. Keep listening to your coach. Keep mentoring John Wall. Keep hitting spot-up jumpers while working hard on D. Say as little as possible to the media and let your game speak for itself. Eff them.

The truth is somewhere in between. While he is in a no-win situation in some ways, and the media has been overly harsh, some of the things he said the other day were off the Wall, so to speak. I don't think we need to paint him as a martyr.
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Re: Arenas for Vince or dump Arenas for cap space? 

Post#1200 » by Nivek » Thu Oct 7, 2010 3:40 pm

nate hits the bullseye. No matter what Gil does, he's going to get criticized in the media. So, eff the media.

It's kinda interesting that the tone of Arenas's coverage is similar to the tone Haynesworth was getting. If you listened to the media, Haynesworth was an out of shape pantload who's uncoachable, ostracized in the locker room and a total cancer who needs to be excised immediately. The Skins were going outright release him! They were going trade him for next to nothing! The one sure thing (if you believed the media) was that Haynesworth and Shanahan could not coexist and that the Skins absolutely, positively had to get rid of him right away.

Now, Haynesworth still might get traded, but they're 4 weeks into the season and he just had his best game as a Redskin.

Listen to Cooley talk, and Haynesworth is far from a cancer. He has friends on the team. He talks to people. He gets along with folks. And, while Albert made it clear he doesn't like the scheme, he has been giving at least enough of an effort to be effective at times (see last week's game).

Arenas is a good person who has had some bad luck (repeated injuries) and made some mistakes (guns in the locker room). He's not a thug. He's not a malcontent. He worked his ass off to get ready for this season (he was the first to complete Flip's fitness test, and posted the fastest time). And Wilbon writes that piece of garbage in response to an ugly beard (that he's growing as a kind of dare/bet with teammates) and a misinterpreted comment? Gimme a break.
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