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Post#121 » by tontoz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:42 pm

ST21 wrote:wall was in the club last night after the loss. awesome. :nonono:



You seriously need to lay off the Haterade. They don't play again until next week. WTF is he supposed to do, sit in his room every night?

Nick misses 17 shots and you blame Wall for the loss. Get a grip.
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Post#122 » by MDStar » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:43 pm

It's not. For the life of me, I never understand why people want to hold basketball players to this standard of being saints. These guys are millionaires. They travel all the time, there in the gym working out in the mornings, they play games at night. What would you do as a 21-22 year old? Go home and sulk about how much your team sucks or go out and try to have a good/fun night and salvage your night? Especially, when your off for a week.

That just bothers me!
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Post#123 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:46 pm

I think KS kicked Cousins butt up and down the court. To the extent that he didn't even want to play in the 2nd half.
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Post#124 » by ST21 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:48 pm

tontoz wrote:

You seriously need to lay off the Haterade. They don't play again until next week. WTF is he supposed to do, sit in his room every night?

Nick misses 17 shots and you blame Wall for the loss. Get a grip.


yeah but crawford stepped up again. scoring was not the reason the wizards lost last night. it was turnovers and poor defense.

as far as the club thing. you guys make good points. can't disagree.
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Post#125 » by closg00 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:13 pm

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ST21 wrote:wall was in the club last night after the loss. awesome. :nonono:

They don't have a game for a week. I don't see why it is a big deal.


+1 Wall is no Iverson, let him go-out and hang with his buddies and enjoy the city.
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Re: SAC VS Washington GT... NOW 

Post#126 » by LyricalRico » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:17 pm

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dangermouse wrote:Is that Whittman standing up and giving the "basket counts" signal with his hand in the background, before Javale has even leapt into the air?

Hilarious.


Not as hilarious/infuriating as seeing Sam Cassell jump up like he wanted to kill McGee. That's how a champion reacts to giving up 2 points.

McGee is a joke.


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Post#127 » by llcc25 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:52 pm

I loved Wall's post game response to question about selfish ball...I'm paraphrasing but he basically said " I thought I played my game and got my teammates the ball. I can't control what they do decide to do with ball after I pass it to them"
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Post#128 » by no D in Hibachi » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:54 pm

I'm not sure why N1 got so much hate for his 360 lay-up attempt. He jumped towards the basket for a shot, the defender reacted on the play and N1 protected the ball with his body. It wasn't like he egregiously missed. It was an aggressive play and he was under-control.

That said, I'm beginning to loathe N1. Down the stretch in the fourth Wall would come down, pass to the wing (either Crawford or N1) and they'd immediately jack it. There was one play that was particularly barf worthy when N1 caught the pass behind the 3point line, did a full rotation pivot move and jacked it. Ugh!!!

The frustrating thing about Young is he's really close to being a very high quality two guard. Borderline all-star quality, but decision making is holding him back. It's so very clear he'll never get it. If he was just a little smarter he'd be able to read the court better for passes, play better help defense, and know how to help orchestrate the offense. It's not like Blatche where he has a laundry list of things holding him back. With Young, if he just had some smarts he'd be an all-star.
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Post#129 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:02 pm

after attending that exhibition, I wonder if all that needs
to be said about the majority of this team is that you
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Post#130 » by tontoz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:26 pm

llcc25 wrote:I loved Wall's post game response to question about selfish ball...I'm paraphrasing but he basically said " I thought I played my game and got my teammates the ball. I can't control what they do decide to do with ball after I pass it to them"



In the postgame interview Wit said he might have to introduce the guards (Young/Crawford) to the big men since he didn't think the guards were aware than they were on the team.
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Post#131 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:54 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:I think KS kicked Cousins butt up and down the court. To the extent that he didn't even want to play in the 2nd half.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt= ... 2012022227

With the pace off the charts and players driving to the basket at will, the first half of Wednesday night’s game between the Sacramento Kings and Washington Wizards looked like an All-Star game preview—minus the All-Stars.

Then a few things happened that weren’t All-Star-like at all: The Kings started playing some defense, DeMarcus Cousins made the unselfish decision to keep himself on the bench, and the coach of the losing team angrily ripped his players for pursuing “style over substance.”



I was getting ready to put Cousins back in,” Kings coach Keith Smart said. “And he said `Let Chuck Hayes stay in the game.’ That’s gigantic for him. Tyreke Evans had a fabulous first half, came out of the game, didn’t play in the fourth quarter and simply cheered his teammates on.

“That’s the growth I’m trying for our team to have if we’re ever going to have a chance to be good and turn our franchise around.”

It made for an interesting set of numbers as the game progressed. Evans scored 20 of his 22 points in the first half, and Cousins had 14 of his 16 before halftime as well as 10 of his 16 rebounds.


“Chuck was doing an incredible job out there on the floor,” Cousins said. “The group that was out there was going well, so there was no need for me to go in and change it.”
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Post#132 » by WizarDynasty » Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:57 pm

NIck young being close to allstar is laughable.

He is extremely weak when dribbling the ball and is like a feather whenever he is attacking the rim. He also a below the rim player that can't finish through contact and has no balance and strength once he gets into the lane.
He has poor body strength, little bumps completely throw him off balance and effectively neutralize him as threat to drive to the whole.

He inspires no confidence in his team mates and displays negative leadership qualities. If your team is losing by 12 points, you shouldn't be out there smiling as if you just won the lotto.

He just has no force when driving to whole and always gives up his driving lane with the slightest bit of contact. Nick is not even a 6th man player. He is 7th or 8th man player that if he is hot you leave him for shooting only. If he misses a few, take him out the game completely. that is not a starter or even a 6th man type player that you can rely on as a consistent offensive cog. He is a horrible rebounder, almost never gets an offensive rebound or a put back, and doesn't play above the rim, and he almost never makes a shot in traffic. that 360 layup crap is pathetic. You thrust your shoulder in a bigs chest midair and still make the shot, not spin in teh air to avoid contact. Nick is not looking for contact going into the whole which is why we need a true shooting guard...not a gimic head case.
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Post#133 » by tontoz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:13 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:NIck young being close to allstar is laughable.

He is extremely weak when dribbling the ball and is like a feather whenever he is attacking the rim. He also a below the rim player that can't finish through contact and has no balance and strength once he gets into the lane.
He has poor body strength, little bumps completely throw him off balance and effectively neutralize him as threat to drive to the whole.

He inspires no confidence in his team mates and displays negative leadership qualities. If your team is losing by 12 points, you shouldn't be out there smiling as if you just won the lotto.

He just has no force when driving to whole and always gives up his driving lane with the slightest bit of contact. Nick is not even a 6th man player. He is 7th or 8th man player that if he is hot you leave him for shooting only.



Uhhh.... weren't you saying just a few days ago that we should resign him for $8.5 million/yr? Or was this an imposter?

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Post#134 » by LyricalRico » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:36 pm

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Post#135 » by montestewart » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:15 pm

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Isn't that an oxymoron?


More so than Mormon NBA player?

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Post#136 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:25 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:I think KS kicked Cousins butt up and down the court. To the extent that he didn't even want to play in the 2nd half.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;_ylt= ... 2012022227

With the pace off the charts and players driving to the basket at will, the first half of Wednesday night’s game between the Sacramento Kings and Washington Wizards looked like an All-Star game preview—minus the All-Stars.

Then a few things happened that weren’t All-Star-like at all: The Kings started playing some defense, DeMarcus Cousins made the unselfish decision to keep himself on the bench, and the coach of the losing team angrily ripped his players for pursuing “style over substance.”



I was getting ready to put Cousins back in,” Kings coach Keith Smart said. “And he said `Let Chuck Hayes stay in the game.’ That’s gigantic for him. Tyreke Evans had a fabulous first half, came out of the game, didn’t play in the fourth quarter and simply cheered his teammates on.

“That’s the growth I’m trying for our team to have if we’re ever going to have a chance to be good and turn our franchise around.”

It made for an interesting set of numbers as the game progressed. Evans scored 20 of his 22 points in the first half, and Cousins had 14 of his 16 before halftime as well as 10 of his 16 rebounds.


“Chuck was doing an incredible job out there on the floor,” Cousins said. “The group that was out there was going well, so there was no need for me to go in and change it.”


Translation: "I'm getting my butt kicked. Let Chuck get his a$$ handed to him for awhile."
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Post#137 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:36 pm

I see it as rare that a young guy prefers not to be a part of the problem. He pretty much did let the coach know Hayes was balling and he was not.

Regardless of how you or I interpret it, the coach was impressed by Cousins and Evans, the same two guys that ran Westphal off.

“I was getting ready to put Cousins back in,” Kings coach Keith Smart said. “And he said `Let Chuck Hayes stay in the game.’ That’s gigantic for him. Tyreke Evans had a fabulous first half, came out of the game, didn’t play in the fourth quarter and simply cheered his teammates on.


That’s the growth I’m trying for our team to have if we’re ever going to have a chance to be good and turn our franchise around.”
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Post#138 » by Nivek » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:40 pm

I like that Cousins told the coach to keep someone else in the game. A sign of maturity, perhaps.
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Post#139 » by WizarDynasty » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:59 pm

yeah i said sign him because we can't anyone better because of Washington's reputation of losing. They lose because grunfeld has failed to sign or trade for quality nba starters and instead filled the roster with a bunch of 7th and 8th roster spot talent from Songalia, armstrong, yi, miller, foye, jamison, butler, stevenson, thornton, livingston, hinrich, crittenton

Explain to me why not one former wizard from the grunfeld era is starting for another team?

Yeah I don't think Nick Young is a starter but the reputation the poor signings by grunfeld means that we have to pay a premium just to maintain mediocre talent because we aren't attracting any free agents.
No free agent is going to give us a discount and we have to over pay just for him to choose us versus a team that is at least .500.
So yeah nick ain't starter material but its grunfeld's fault that he failed to get us a player better than Nick Young who is a bench player on a good team.
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Post#140 » by tontoz » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:09 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Explain to me why not one former wizard from the grunfeld era is starting for another team?





Huh? Jamison, Butler, and Haywood have started every game they have played this season. Stevenson was starting for the team that won the title last year.
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