Sluggerface wrote:SHFT wrote:Sluggerface wrote:
lol a class or two below Miami/Ind. Lol.
Indiana has two players that are top 5 in the league at their position, a should-have been all-star in lance stephenson, and the best defense in the NBA. Hate to be captain obvious here, but MIA has the best player in the world, and a roster that has won back to back NBA championships. Vogel and Spo are elite coaches too.
Toronto isn't a class below them. They aren't two classes below them. Toronto is playing high school ball while Indiana and Miami are in the Final Four.
This is why everybody in the NBA thinks you guys are hilarious for acting like you're the ****. You don't see us getting all uppity after coming back to relevance.
1) Lance was not an allstar before Kyle Lowry
2) While our D is not the best in the NBA it is top 7 I would say.
3) No arguments with your MIA statements re Bron Bron and championship caliber.
4)
Only reason I will say Spo is "an elite coach" is because he is endorsed by Pat Riley...people thought Mike Brown was an "elite coach" as well during his time in Cleveland
5) In no way can you say we are "high school basketball" and MIA/IND are "final four", those are 2 different leagues but I'm sure you knew that. What you probably didn't know is in our 0-3 record vs Miami our point differential is only 7. In our 1-2 record vs Indy, we beat them by 13 once, they beat us twice by 7. So by your stupid sarcastic remark what you are essentially saying is if you took a highschool basketball team and put them up against 2 seperate final four squads they would have 1 win and point differential of 7.
Are we 1 class below? That was a little generous I guess. We are 2 classes below.
I'm not getting "uppity", but thank you for clarifying why the NBA laughs at us, I will make sure I relay that to my fellow Raps fans.
1) They both should have been All-Stars. Lowry should have went in place of DeRozan and Lance should have went in place of Johnson.
2) Bobcats have a top 5 D, but still suck major ass. You need more than good efficiency to be a contender. Just look at Minnesota. They are top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency and are struggling to even make the playoffs
4) This is just false. Spo took a 15 win miami team to the playoffs in his first season, the season immediately after, they achieved 47 wins, before landing Lebron. That was with a lulzy supporting cast that included Daequan Cook, James Jones, Joel Anthony, Jermaine O'neal, and Jamario Moon. Michael Beasley was Wade's #2.
5) I was obviously exaggerating. Furthermore, point differential is a good measure of a teams overall chances of success, but you can throw it out the window once the playoffs start because it's all about matchups. Nobody in the east matches up against Indiana or Miami. Including the Raptors, even if they reach 50 wins this season. Dwayne Casey can't outcoach Spo or Vogel to make up for those deficiencies either.
1) agree JJ sucked *** but what you are saying then is that Stephenson deserved to be an allstar over DD which is not true at all (Because I could say that Lowry deserved it over JJ and DD > Lance). IMO it should have been no JJ, no Stephenson and Lowry and Demar (but I will admit that is 100% debatable)
2) Bobcats offense is horrrrrible where ours is not so that is not a fair comparison, and Minny is in the West, in the East they are playoff locks.
4) I am not saying Spo is a bad coach, just I have not seen enough without the Big 3 to say he is an elite one. The year he took MIA to the playoffs after their 15 W season, Wade was on top of the world averaging 30/7/5 and they finished 4 games over .500. They also had Haslem.
5) I agree playoffs is a different picture but I didn't mention playoffs...you did. In the regular season we are 1-2 classes below Indy / Miami, who knows what happens come playoff time.
