John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III

[fishercob]

Listened to Colin Cowherd this morning....

You lost me there.

You are to blame for anything that happened between this sentence and you changing the station.

[hands11]

We would have swept with wall! hands down! I say sit him game 5, game for literally could have been won by gortat and otto having an averge game. they had a rough night and we had some bad rolls. if we go down they see if wall can go for 6, if we win 5 sit him 6 and see if we can close it out with out him! if we go to game 7 see if we need him! But I don't think you drag him out with the series tied .

Had they won game 4, I think they would have done that.

Having lost game 4, I think Wall is in uniform and available Game 5...as long as the doctors clear him.

Swelling in almost all gone.
Sounds like he dribbled but they didn't comment on the pain at all.
They can fit him with a protective hand cover to disperse contact.

We are missing information we will get today after he visits the doctor. But it sounds like Wall is shooting to be in uniform.

[stevemcqueen1]

Perfect example of a guy who made a statement in the past - that might even have had merit at the time he said it - and now feels he has to defend the statement, no matter how asinine it looks.

Just to be clear, Cowherd's opinions on Wall never, ever had any merit. They were just as stupid and ignorant at the time as it is now. Cowherd is a race-baiting **** hot taking to his middle-aged white audience that 98% of whom hasn't watched an NBA game in 20 years.

Dropping a comparison to Allen Iverson is a dog-whistle to his audience. He's still **** doing it.

[Severn Hoos]

Listened to Colin Cowherd this morning....

You lost me there.

You are to blame for anything that happened between this sentence and you changing the station.

I was with him through his rants about CVS, gentrification, and 80s metal concerts. But when he started in on Wall, I was outta there!

[Higga]

Cowherd is a troll. That's his schtick. I don't think he even believes like 90% of what he says, but he does what he has to do to cater to his audience. I don't really get mad at him, I just don't listen. Although some of his rants in the past have been hilarious(Youtube his rant on UVa Football).

[hands11]

Thank you Johnny Ball Game.

Thanks for returning and playing with such effort and heart even though you are injured.

That was amazing. Specially that late possession where you got on the ground and pulled the ball in with your injured left hand. And that late block on Bird Poop was sick.

Sorry the refs screwed the team in what looked like was enough effort and production to get the win.

But its not over. Still got faith you and the team will pull this out. Go kick their butts at home in Game 6

[hands11]

Wall feeling fine.

Still in it to win it. DC Chicken Fans need to get to the game early next game and really make it an event.

BRING THE NOISE. BRING HOME THE WIN TO SET UP A HUGE GAME 7 FOR ALL THE MARBLES

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos/mike-budenholzer-postgame-presser-5-13-15

[hands11]

[dckingsfan]

Please, please, please - don't reinjure the hand!

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

From the ESPN 5-On-5:

2. Fact or Fiction: John Wall is a top-five point guard in the NBA.

Arnovitz: Fiction, and given the absurd depth at the position, there's no shame in falling just outside the top five. Steph Curry, Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook are locks until further notice, which places Wall in a scrum just below with Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Mike Conley and, possibly, Jeff Teague, and the healthy versions of Tony Parker, Kyle Lowry and Derrick Rose. Wall's true shooting percentage of only 52.6 percent is below league average, which makes it tough to vault him into the top five.

Pelton: Fact. After the top three (Curry, Paul and Westbrook), it's mostly a matter of taste, and Wall's two-way play -- I picked him for my All-Defensive Second Team -- probably lifts him to the top of the crowded second tier at this point.

Strauss: Fact. This would be a more apparent fact if Wall played in an offensive system that made sense. He's already the best defensive player at his position, in my opinion. Once he's in a structure that encourages the shooting of 3-pointers in the regular season, Wall's star will rise.

Wallace: Fact. He has elevated himself this season into the elite group that consists of Curry, Paul, Westbrook and Parker. Sure, there may be debates as to whether you'd take Wall over Lillard, Conley or perhaps a healthy Rose. But Wall's work the past two seasons as a scorer and facilitator speaks for itself.

Young: Fact. You're probably trying to count off five better in your head right now. Let's see, Curry, Westbrook, Paul and ... maybe Conley? Maybe Lillard? Maybe Irving, if you're still counting him as a point guard for some reason? Wall is an unreal facilitator who blends size and power, and he has taken big steps with his jumper. Hard to think of five who are undoubtedly better.


Arnovitz you hack.

[nate33]

From the ESPN 5-On-5:

2. Fact or Fiction: John Wall is a top-five point guard in the NBA.

Arnovitz: Fiction, and given the absurd depth at the position, there's no shame in falling just outside the top five. Steph Curry, Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook are locks until further notice, which places Wall in a scrum just below with Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Mike Conley and, possibly, Jeff Teague, and the healthy versions of Tony Parker, Kyle Lowry and Derrick Rose. Wall's true shooting percentage of only 52.6 percent is below league average, which makes it tough to vault him into the top five.

Pelton: Fact. After the top three (Curry, Paul and Westbrook), it's mostly a matter of taste, and Wall's two-way play -- I picked him for my All-Defensive Second Team -- probably lifts him to the top of the crowded second tier at this point.

Strauss: Fact. This would be a more apparent fact if Wall played in an offensive system that made sense. He's already the best defensive player at his position, in my opinion. Once he's in a structure that encourages the shooting of 3-pointers in the regular season, Wall's star will rise.

Wallace: Fact. He has elevated himself this season into the elite group that consists of Curry, Paul, Westbrook and Parker. Sure, there may be debates as to whether you'd take Wall over Lillard, Conley or perhaps a healthy Rose. But Wall's work the past two seasons as a scorer and facilitator speaks for itself.

Young: Fact. You're probably trying to count off five better in your head right now. Let's see, Curry, Westbrook, Paul and ... maybe Conley? Maybe Lillard? Maybe Irving, if you're still counting him as a point guard for some reason? Wall is an unreal facilitator who blends size and power, and he has taken big steps with his jumper. Hard to think of five who are undoubtedly better.


Arnovitz you hack.

I don't really have a problem with any of these answers. They're all pretty much saying the same thing. Wall is somewhere in the 4-8 range, and probably closer to 4, but it depends on your preference.

[stevemcqueen1]

I think it's pretty clear Teague, Lowry, Irving, and Lillard are not in Wall's class.

Also, why even mention Tony Parker or a healthy Derrick Rose at this point? It's not 2011, that version of those players don't exist any more.

Conley is legit, but there isn't a team in the league that would take him over Wall, Memphis included. Curry and CP3 are in their own class, but the gap between Wall and Westbrook isn't big. Westbrook has been overrated this year because of the monster volume numbers he put up with a comical usage rate. People respect his game because he plays as hard as Iverson did, but he doesn't play particularly smart or effective basketball and his team isn't great when he's the guy. Wall is the opposite. His team goes from being weak to highly effective when he steps on the court and he barely has to score to have that effect.

[nuposse04]

Thanks for a great season Wall. Heal and continue to work on that 3

[hands11]

Thanks for returning Johnny Ball Game.

Much appreciated. Very much

[dckingsfan]

Wall is definitely a top 5 PG - these playoffs push him over the top...

[keynote]

I don't think I saw this article posted in this thread:

https://medium.com/the-cauldron/the-apo ... c0d441e6e3

I’m sorry, John Wall.

I’m sorry that we rush to judgment. I’m sorry that we presume more than we have any right to. I’m sorry that we continue to conflate athletic performance with personal character. I’m sorry that Wall’s considerable professional accomplishments will always be linked with Cowherd’s inane monologue. I’m sorry that it requires an undeniably valiant Wall performance, taking the floor with five fractures in his wrist and hand, to spark pieces like this one.

But mostly, I’m sorry that we’re all so god-damn afraid to say, “I’m sorry.” It’s not weakness, it’s not frailty, and it’s not a lack of conviction. Sometimes, it’s just plain decent. And a little more decency wouldn’t be such a bad thing — from the halls of power in our nation’s capital, to every studio that puts a chucklehead in front of a microphone.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I think Arnovitz is correct. Curry, Paul and Westbrook are clearly ahead of everyone else. From the regular season, Teague, Irving and Lillard rate ahead of Wall in my stuff. In the playoffs, Paul, Curry, and Irving rate as more productive. In terms of capability, I would place Wall top 5. I don't think we've seen him play to his potential yet.

[JWizmentality]

John Wall screwed again for All NBA 3rd team.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

How did Kyrie get 112 votes and Wall only 50...

[JWizmentality]

How did Kyrie get 112 votes and Wall only 50...

Lebron James dude.