John Wall OUT for 12 months; Ruptured Achilles

[dorianwrite]

Why would you give someone an extension 2 years before his current deal ends?

Wall is gonna make 40 million to do nothing next season

Not bad work, if you can get it.

[miller31time]

Is there any way his upcoming contract could be voided due to negligence?

I feel like, if HE wasn't properly caring for his injury, then why should we have to pay for him to sit on the sidelines?

[Dark Faze]

We don't have to do to much. Everybody eats sucks and we'll be enjoying a top 8 pick this year.

I do think we should consider moving Brad sooner rather than later. Short of him earning a super max there's no way he's extending here again.

[Shanghai Kid]

I cant get over how much this screws our future.

Walls contract is bad, but there was a decent chance we were going to get all-star production from him.

Now hes not tradeable and it's a big question mark if he will even be decent anymore.

It's really a dagger to the next few years.

I think you have to just focus on getting draft picks and riding out the next few seasons.

[JAR69]

So, this injury kills the cap, but Ted saves some money next year because of insurance?

Larry Coon's FAQ:

73. Are player contracts insured?

There is a league-wide policy that insures the contracts of around 150 players each season for inability to perform their duties as professional basketball players due to sickness or injury. Each team submits at least five players for coverage each season, from their five most expensive contracts based on either of the following criteria:

- Current season salary
- Total remaining salary (with at least two years remaining on the contract)

Each team must insure at least five players, including the two most expensive contracts with at least two seasons remaining in each of the above categories. Teams have the option of submitting additional names for coverage, including players with less than two seasons remaining on their contracts. Players ages 37 and over are not covered unless offered by the insurance carrier and accepted by the team.

If an insured player is disabled, there is a 41 game waiting period, after which the insurance company pays 80% of the covered salary, which includes current and deferred compensation, and any signing bonus and incentive compensation that can be earned prior to the start of the regular season. The maximum covered salary is $28,187,500, or $275,000 per regular game. The maximum coverage for any one player is six seasons (451 games after the waiting period).

The waiting period can span seasons, and the player even can attempt to come back -- if he does and finds that he is unable to play, the 41-game count resumes (as long as he stopped playing due to the same injury).

The carrier has the right to exclude up to 14 players per season, with a maximum of six players per season excluded due to sickness (there are specific exceptions and submits to these exclusions). One example is when they excluded Luol Deng in 2008-09 because he had $71 million remaining on his contract and a history of back injuries. The list of excluded players changes each year, so a player who is not covered one season might be covered the following season. However, once a player is covered the carrier can't exclude the player for the remainder of his current contract.

If the player is traded, his new team receives the benefit -- for example, even though Cuttino Mobley's heart condition was discovered prior to his trade to the Knicks in 2008, the Knicks received the insurance payout.

[Ruzious]

They won't do this, but:

1. At a minimum, trade Green and Ariza for something at the deadline -- expiring contracts, 2nd round picks.
2. If anyone will take Markieff Morris for basically anything (ham sandwich and a bag of chips?), do it as long as it helps with getting under the cap.
3. Keep Beal as the face of the franchise and its best player, as long as he hasn't firmly indicated that he has no interest in staying with Washington long-term. Try to sell him on being the team leader, though, because you won't get anything of remotely equal value right now by trading him. (If trading Beal, then proceed to full-on tank mode, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200.)
4. Porter will never be significantly better than what he is. If we were seriously offered a first round pick by anyone, take it. If we were actually offered Harrison Barnes (roughly equivalent production and one less year of salary), take it.
5. Resign Sato if he's not asking for the world. If he is, letting him go isn't the end of the world (he'd never be a starter on a great team, who needs even a good starting point guard on a lousy team, and losing him would probably accelerate the tank job -- intentional or inadvertent -- that will be next season).
6. Get as many of the young energy guys to remain as you can, probably in this order: Bryant, Randle, McRae, Dekker, Robinson. (Bryant is the only one you offer much of a salary or for more than a year or two.) They all seem like good people and will be fun to root for while we lose a lot of games next year.
7. Wall stays because no one will take him off our hands. Brown stays because he's on a rookie deal and we still haven't figured out exactly what he is and could be.
8. Let Mahinmi expire after next season. Don't worry about what Dwight Howard decides to do, because if he leaves, there's no point handing over his cap money to anyone good if we're tanking, and if he stays, he's not good enough to interrupt the tank.

If we're lucky, Wall comes back as a very good player and someone loses their mind and decides to trade for his contract in a couple of years. If not, then hopefully our combination of first round picks and whichever young guys from this year we retain are all ready to compete in 4-5 years when Wall either gets us something decent in a trade because of his huge expiring contract or the contract runs its natural course.

Good to see you here. Unfortunately, this is more likely Gil Arenas Pt 2. Wall is a player who has to have his speed and explosion to be effective. He's not 20 years old, so it's likely this injury takes a step from him and takes some explosion away. I think it's going to be ugly watching him try to make a comeback. The Wiz have to check what remedies they have with regard to the caps and insurance. And again, it goes back to giving him an extension far earlier than they should have.

Grunfeld and company seemed to forget what happened with Arenas, so they're destined to relive it. Reminds of the great Pearl Jam song "Nothingman":

and he who forgets...will be destined to remember...
nothingman...
nothingman...
isn't it something?
nothingman...
oh, she don't want him...
oh, she won't feed him...after he's flown away...
oh, into the sun...ah, into the sun...
burn...burn...
nothingman...
nothingman...
isn't it something?
nothingman...
nothingman...
coulda' been something...
nothingman...
oh...ohh...ohh...

[dckingsfan]

So, I guess the assumption should be he isn't going to play next year but we would hope he would be back the year after.

The years following, the question becomes - will he be able to contribute - even as a bench player?

Would Cousins be the closest equivalent? I can't think of a guard that had this happen that came back.

[Ruzious]

So, I guess the assumption should be he isn't going to play next year but we would hope he would be back the year after.

The years following, the question becomes - will he be able to contribute - even as a bench player?

Would Cousins be the closest equivalent? I can't think of a guard that had this happen that came back.

And if he hangs on as a shell of his former self, the Wiz lose any chance of cap relief.

[dckingsfan]

So, I guess the assumption should be he isn't going to play next year but we would hope he would be back the year after.

The years following, the question becomes - will he be able to contribute - even as a bench player?

Would Cousins be the closest equivalent? I can't think of a guard that had this happen that came back.

And if he hangs on as a shell of his former self, the Wiz lose any chance of cap relief.

Tell me how the cap relief could play out?

[closg00]

Why would you give someone an extension 2 years before his current deal ends?

Wall is gonna make 40 million to do nothing next season

Ernie “The panicker”, he manages from a position of insecurity.

[trast66]

Ted and Ernie's "plan" is a complete and utter failure.

There is no road to travel except playing young (cheap) guys around Brad. Trade what we can for draft picks. Trevor Ariza is not doing anything for us. And for Gods sake find a coach who can get guys to play defense.

Perhaps we can aspire to be like the Nets.

[NatP4]

So, I guess the assumption should be he isn't going to play next year but we would hope he would be back the year after.

The years following, the question becomes - will he be able to contribute - even as a bench player?

Would Cousins be the closest equivalent? I can't think of a guard that had this happen that came back.

A 30 year old guard that relies on his athletic ability, coming off of a torn Achilles...

Wall is done playing meaningful basketball.

Never forget when he was at his peak:

Watch on YouTube

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

So, I guess the assumption should be he isn't going to play next year but we would hope he would be back the year after.

The years following, the question becomes - will he be able to contribute - even as a bench player?

Would Cousins be the closest equivalent? I can't think of a guard that had this happen that came back.

A 30 year old guard that relies on his athletic ability, coming off of a torn Achilles...

Wall is done playing meaningful basketball.

Never forget when he was at his peak:

Watch on YouTube

That was nice! Thanks for the memories kiddo.

[popper]

TL deserves to suffer for hanging on to a proven loser (EG) and for agreeing to the ridiculous contract he gave Wall.

[WallToWall]

How I wish this was just broken jones.

(trying to find some levity in all this. It's how I deal with it.)

[ozthegap]

I remember whenever Arenas and Larry Hughes would get injured id feel crushed. Now I feel bad for Wall, but other than that i don't give a ****

[Paradise]

Nets fan coming in peace. I’m so sorry to hear this. I legit felt bad for you guys all day since hearing it because it brings back memories when we lost Lopez to those severe foot injuries when we were capped out but I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of a guy severely injuring himself on top of rehabbing a severe injury at home since Joel Pryzbilla slipped and fell in the shower tearing his patella tendon back in Portland. That whole thing is cruel for everyone involved.

I hope could lead to the FO changes you guys need. There’s no possible way you could still keep a GM who’s botched this kind of deal this badly, right? Especially after dealing Ariza for Oubre. I hope you guys can get a fresh start soon.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I mean... how in the frikkin hell does a professional athlete let that happen to him when he knows he has to take the utmost care of his ankle? He still hasn't even reached the start of his 170 mil extension.

And going back before this... how in the hell did John and the team let him play if his ankle was as messed up before the operation?

How does the same organization have the Arenas re-injury and the Wall re-injury?

I have suffered a ruptured left Achilles.

It happened in 2008. Guess what still bothers me with pain and tendinitis? Same heel. Ruzious, think about what you are posting.

Did Kobe or Boogie Cousins let an injury happen? No. Certainly not.

It's the worst of injuries. Not anybody's fault.

S happens, man.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I mean... how in the frikkin hell does a professional athlete let that happen to him when he knows he has to take the utmost care of his ankle? He still hasn't even reached the start of his 170 mil extension.

And going back before this... how in the hell did John and the team let him play if his ankle was as messed up before the operation?

How does the same organization have the Arenas re-injury and the Wall re-injury?

Play while injured? Like Otto Porter is doing while the Wizards are chasing windmills and the playoffs?

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I mean... how in the frikkin hell does a professional athlete let that happen to him when he knows he has to take the utmost care of his ankle? He still hasn't even reached the start of his 170 mil extension.

And going back before this... how in the hell did John and the team let him play if his ankle was as messed up before the operation?

How does the same organization have the Arenas re-injury and the Wall re-injury?

The same way Deangelo Hall slipped and reinjured his achillies.

"Stuff" happens...

Yup.

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