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Post#121 » by payitforward » Fri Aug 9, 2024 9:11 pm

Try it some time.
I'm a very good cook, but I can't make a better Marinara sauce than Rao's.

Given that you're "confident," however, feel free to post your recipe for Marinara.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#122 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:27 pm

payitforward wrote:Try it some time.
I'm a very good cook, but I can't make a better Marinara sauce than Rao's.

Given that you're "confident," however, feel free to post your recipe for Marinara.


Recipes, not recipe.

Like all good Italian cooking, it depends on what is fresh and in season and what you are going for on a given night.

It all starts with the best tomatoes you can find. In season, you can boil off the skins and squeeze out the seeds for your base. Out of season, you can sometimes find decent canned San Marzanos, but I never mind a saucy import from Italy like Pomi.

If you want a little spice, lean toward elements of puttanesca. Dissolve some anchovies in your hot oil, toast some red pepper flakes right on the skillet (outside the oil), then garlic and onions. Or for less spicy, start with a traditional soffrito with the vegatables cut so finely that they dissolve. Excellent extra virgin olive oil is a must.

For a more American style "gravy," go heavy on the oregano. For more traditional Italian, fewer spices but let the flavors of a smaller set of ingredients (tomatoes, garlic, basil if you want a little sweetness) shine through. As with all Italian cooking, the ingredients and not the science are the stars.
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Post#123 » by doclinkin » Mon Aug 12, 2024 7:00 pm

I'm comin' over, when's dinner?
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Re: Ignore 

Post#124 » by penbeast0 » Mon Aug 12, 2024 7:28 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Try it some time.
I'm a very good cook, but I can't make a better Marinara sauce than Rao's.

Given that you're "confident," however, feel free to post your recipe for Marinara.


Recipes, not recipe.

Like all good Italian cooking, it depends on what is fresh and in season and what you are going for on a given night.

It all starts with the best tomatoes you can find. In season, you can boil off the skins and squeeze out the seeds for your base. Out of season, you can sometimes find decent canned San Marzanos, but I never mind a saucy import from Italy like Pomi.

If you want a little spice, lean toward elements of puttanesca. Dissolve some anchovies in your hot oil, toast some red pepper flakes right on the skillet (outside the oil), then garlic and onions. Or for less spicy, start with a traditional soffrito with the vegatables cut so finely that they dissolve. Excellent extra virgin olive oil is a must.

For a more American style "gravy," go heavy on the oregano. For more traditional Italian, fewer spices but let the flavors of a smaller set of ingredients (tomatoes, garlic, basil if you want a little sweetness) shine through. As with all Italian cooking, the ingredients and not the science are the stars.


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Post#125 » by pancakes3 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:16 pm

LSBF ignoring to invite us over for a spaghetti dinner all these years. 2 decades worth of spaghetti dinners!
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Re: Ignore 

Post#126 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Tue Aug 13, 2024 4:32 pm

pancakes3 wrote:LSBF ignoring to invite us over for a spaghetti dinner all these years. 2 decades worth of spaghetti dinners!


I'm down. You all will have to come join me and Da Swami in Charlottesville however.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#127 » by AFM » Tue Aug 13, 2024 5:56 pm

Sorry can't make it to Charlottesville, my tiki torch doesn't fit in my car. You boys have fun though
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Re: Ignore 

Post#128 » by pancakes3 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 7:14 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
pancakes3 wrote:LSBF ignoring to invite us over for a spaghetti dinner all these years. 2 decades worth of spaghetti dinners!


I'm down. You all will have to come join me and Da Swami in Charlottesville however.


I'm debating between UVa/UMD or UVa/SMU right now so... I'll @ you :)
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Re: Ignore 

Post#129 » by payitforward » Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:26 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
payitforward wrote:Try it some time.
I'm a very good cook, but I can't make a better Marinara sauce than Rao's.

Given that you're "confident," however, feel free to post your recipe for Marinara.

Recipes, not recipe.

Like all good Italian cooking, it depends on what is fresh and in season and what you are going for on a given night.

It all starts with the best tomatoes you can find. In season, you can boil off the skins and squeeze out the seeds for your base. Out of season, you can sometimes find decent canned San Marzanos, but I never mind a saucy import from Italy like Pomi.

If you want a little spice, lean toward elements of puttanesca. Dissolve some anchovies in your hot oil, toast some red pepper flakes right on the skillet (outside the oil), then garlic and onions. Or for less spicy, start with a traditional soffrito with the vegatables cut so finely that they dissolve. Excellent extra virgin olive oil is a must.

For a more American style "gravy," go heavy on the oregano. For more traditional Italian, fewer spices but let the flavors of a smaller set of ingredients (tomatoes, garlic, basil if you want a little sweetness) shine through. As with all Italian cooking, the ingredients and not the science are the stars.

You probably mean technique not "science," & you are right that there's little of it in this particular dish, yet... have you ever made Beef Wellington, LSBF? I have, more than once. But I'll never make it again I can assure you.

Starting a response to my post with a recommendation to use the freshest & "best" ingredients, a line from pretty much every cookbook ever written, made it seem more or less non-responsive. For that matter, I suppose, mentioning Puttanesca struck me the same. It can be delicious, of course, but it's not Marinara. Nor is a tomato & basil sauce Marinara. Nor is a Bolognese. Or an Arrabiata.

To be sure, there are many red sauces for pasta. But only one of them is Marinara, & you haven't described a way to make a Marinara sauce.

Then again, I'm being pretty cranky, don't you think?
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Go buy yourself a jar of Rao's Marinara. It's terrific. I can't make a better Marinara, & I'm not the only one. Many Italian chefs say the same. Give it a try.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#130 » by AFM » Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:43 am

Why are you shilling Rao's so hard. It's a midgrade sauce you can buy at any Safeway in America. Owned by Campbells. Do you have a large position in Campbells or something. This needs to be investigated by the SEC.
Next you're going to tell me to try Newman's Own
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Re: Ignore 

Post#131 » by payitforward » Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:08 pm

:)
As I wrote, I was pretty cranky yesterday at the end of a difficult (& annoying) day!

Do your own research. Look at the ingredients & how it's made.
Then actually... you know... try the stuff.

Have somebody feed it to you while you're doing bench presses & listening to Rachmninoff.
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Post#132 » by bsilver » Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:33 pm

Have to agree with PIF. Rao’s was recommended by a friend who is an excellent cook. We enjoy it.
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Post#133 » by Doug_Blew » Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:37 pm

Raos, hands down the best red sauce.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#134 » by pancakes3 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:24 pm

we're all ignoring the essence of this thread with this Rao talk.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#135 » by AFM » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:38 pm

Didnt we trade him to the lakers
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Re: Ignore 

Post#136 » by payitforward » Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:24 pm

Rao = Oar backwards.
Hachimura = Arumihcah backwards.

In short: erongi !!
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Post#137 » by doclinkin » Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:55 pm

payitforward wrote:Hachimura = Arumihcah backwards.


I always have mixed feelings rooting for the olumpic teams and athletes from the Untied Status of Arumihcah.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#138 » by Kanyewest » Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:01 pm

AFM wrote:Why are you shilling Rao's so hard. It's a midgrade sauce you can buy at any Safeway in America. Owned by Campbells. Do you have a large position in Campbells or something. This needs to be investigated by the SEC.
Next you're going to tell me to try Newman's Own

One of my friends went grocery shopping at Balduci's and was bragging about how good the Rao's sauce he bought.

Now I want to do a blind test with Chef Boyardee.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#139 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:00 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
AFM wrote:Why are you shilling Rao's so hard. It's a midgrade sauce you can buy at any Safeway in America. Owned by Campbells. Do you have a large position in Campbells or something. This needs to be investigated by the SEC.
Next you're going to tell me to try Newman's Own

One of my friends went grocery shopping at Balduci's and was bragging about how good the Rao's sauce he bought.

Now I want to do a blind test with Chef Boyardee.


Did you know that Chef Boyardee was real?

Ettore Boiardi, emphasis on the second syllable. Boy - r'- dee.

Just a bit of trivia that you can ignore.
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Re: Ignore 

Post#140 » by payitforward » Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:47 pm

While we're intensifying & expanding our ignore-ance, let's ignore this too: https://www.oscarmayer.com/wienermobile/

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