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Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#121 » by tontoz » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:41 pm

tsvqt wrote:#14 will be TOPIC! I like that. He rehabs all season & we get more ping pong balls for Flagg. Have to out tank Nets!



I doubt Topic lasts past Utah at 10. Ainge is their GM.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#122 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:43 pm

I hope Deni comes here and lights us up for 43 points, 15 rebounds and 3 assists next time we play Portland.

Apparently, I need to remind management that he has done it before.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#123 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:44 pm

Just devasting news. Just ate some dinner, and I was getting ready for this draft, don't **** even care anymore. We got sold the narrative the Dawkins was from the Presti tree and he'd come and here and work magic.

If you got a haul for Deni, as much as I loved him as a player, you'd say okay I get it, but a **** 2029 pick and the 14th pick in this draft. This is just another comical chapter of why we will go another 20 years without winning 50 games.

**** this franchise, I think I'm done. Not worth the misery anymore. To think Poole is going to be one this team next year while they shipped Deni off to the Pacific NW makes me want to vomit. I think that just about does it.

Just makes not a lick of sense to trade a 23 year-old that was breaking out, on one of the best deals in the league, who was the only **** player on the roster to play the right way for a total unknown draft pick and your grand prize of the trade is one of the weakest drafts in memory. There are **** players in this draft that are as old as Deni.

**** you Dawkins. We should have know when that other Presti tree moron got hired after running DET into the ground that this franchise is not a serious one.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#124 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:45 pm

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smoothSeph wrote:Sounds like a lock Sarr is coming to DC. Kuzma plays the 4, Sarr says he's playing the 4, Deni is also best at the 4. Hopefully Kuzma is gone too but it makes sense to get what you can for Deni. Think his value was pretty high after he got the keys the last 10 games of the season.


Actually it sounds more like Risacher to replace Avdija. I think that's who they are targeting (he's #1 on their board according to a few tapped in) and maybe that 26th pick gets moved while Atlanta is on the clock to secure it.


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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#125 » by J-Ves » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:46 pm

nate33 wrote:I hope Deni comes here and lights us up for 43 points, 15 rebounds and 3 assists next time we play Portland.

Apparently, I need to remind management that he has done it before.

3 assists aren’t enough. He needs at least 12 and I hope he’s +30. Preferably in DC
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#126 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:46 pm

JAR69 wrote:Aldridge take:

Wizards’ new front office liked Deni Avdija


Make no mistake: the Wizards’ new front office liked Deni Avdija.

They’re the ones who gave him a four-year extension last fall for $55 million. And Avdija had a really, really good season in Washington last year, posting career highs in scoring, rebounds and assists, and wildly improving from deep (career-best .374 on 3s).

But…this front office did not draft him. As such, it wasn’t wedded to him as it is to, say, Bilal Coulibaly, whom Washington acquired in a draft-night deal last season from Indiana.

The Wizards were determined to second a second first-round pick this year, in a position where they could take another swing at someone with lottery potential going forward, along with whoever they take with the second pick tonight.

At 14, they will now have that chance, along with adding another first-round pick (2029) and two future seconds to their increasing cache of draft picks. According to multiple league sources, the Wizards brought in Pitt freshman guard Bub Carrrington for a last-minute visit in the days preceding tonight’s draft.

Carrington is viewed as one of the better young point guards available in the draft, having made the all-rookie team this past season in the ACC, and garnering honorable mention accolades for the all-ACC team.

He’s got fans throughout the NBA, who love his toughness – he’s from Baltimore, where he starred at St. Frances Academy – and his potential as a two-way guard going forward. Carrington is one of the youngest players available in the draft; he won’t turn 19 until July 21.

If the Wizards come out of this draft with a young guard, whether Carrington or Duke’s Jared McCain or USC’s Isaiah Collier, along with their expected selection of 7-1 center Alexandre Sarr with the second pick, they’ll have jump-started their rebuild in earnest.

Whether that includes Malcolm Brogdon, an unrestricted free agent after this season, is unclear.


I've never understood this notion that because you didn't draft a guy that you shouldn't clearly be able to identify what you have as a piece and that it should bias you into making absurdly egregious errors in judgement.

Lol the kicker, we brought in Bub Carrington, a local player from Baltimore. It is literally rinse, repeat with this clown show.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#127 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:47 pm

PaulinVA wrote:Surprisingly, not everyone hates it:

Read on Twitter

*sigh* sorry, Wiz fans, and this is from someone who really wanted us to trade for Deni, and from someone who understands the gut punch of a fan favourite being traded when we traded Derrick.

I think this idea of selling high has *right now*more of a volume rather than quality sense to it, but it's clear that, like with us and White (and Murray before him), signaled a sharp pivot to getting a high pick in the 2-25 draft. Deni is a fan favourite but not a player you build around. The long-term projection is that there's a ceiling with Deni that is higher with players in the upcoming draft.

Ironically, we could now use a guy like Derrick going forward. And ironically you'll have use for a player like Deni in the future once the #1 guy is in place. But it also takes these sorts of trades to position yourself for the potential generational talents.

Hopefully this gives you some hope. I know it's tough. Better times are ahead.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#128 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:48 pm

Dear god, if they take Carrington with that pick.. I’m done.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#129 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:48 pm

Now as much as I hate this we didn't get fleeced. 2 firsts and 2 seconds is good value

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#130 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:48 pm

Well, if it’s Carrington, that would lessen the blow for me. I’m on record as saying he’s a top guard in this draft…right up there with Dillingham and Sheppard.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#131 » by 80sballboy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:49 pm

I almost drove off the road when somebody texted me. Reminds me a little of the Richard Hamilton trade for Jerry Stackhouse. New GM didn't draft him. But could they have waited a year to let him blossom more and then trade him in a better f-ing draft in 2025? I expect Brogdon to be dealt for what, another 2nd round pick? As everyone said, they better draft good players and get rid of Kuz, though I doubt that's happening now.

My assumption is that they like Risacher, if he drops to 2 and that's that.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#132 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:49 pm

Frichuela wrote:
lastemp3ror wrote:Not a fan of the deal. Maybe they got word that the Hawks aren't going to pick Risacher and the Wiz will? Plus they have Kispert who also plays the same position. I am just trying to make sense of it all...

I am assuming Kuzma is also gone tonight, and we will be picking top 3 in next years draft.


Man, I hope they don’t pick that bum of Risacher…
That will be the next bad move. Risacher at #2 is gonna be a bust.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#133 » by 80sballboy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:49 pm

DCZards wrote:Well, if it’s Carrington, that would lessen the blow for me. I’m on record as saying he’s a top guard in this draft…right up there with Dillingham and Sheppard.


Baltimore's own Bub. I'd be ok with that at 14.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#134 » by Endless Loop » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:50 pm

tsvqt wrote:#14 will be TOPIC! I like that. He rehabs all season & we get more ping pong balls for Flagg. Have to out tank Nets!


Topic will be long gone.

And anyway, the Wiz can't COUNT on Topic at 14.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#135 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:51 pm

The Consiglieri wrote:
badinage wrote:They better come away with Edey now.

And package effing Kuz with that 26 for some real value.

Why so fixated on Edey? We have no idea what their priority is w/the picks. Pinning your hopes on a specific guy in the teens or 20's is a guaranteed way to be sad. We almost never draft who you guys want with picks outside the "patently obvious" zone.



That's exactly where I am too. Of course nobody knows what their vision is, but a pairing of Sarr and Edey on paper seems extremely strong.

Edey is the only player in that 14th pick range that feels like, if drafted, would have somewhat of an offsetting effect of losing Deni.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#136 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:52 pm

machu46 wrote:Avdija is a solid player and obviously good value on his contract, but I said re: someone's theory that anyone that loves Edey has to have a team specifically built around him and I mentioned that I feel like Washington is essentially a blank slate. Avdija, to me, is not a guy you build a team around. I don't think it's very likely Washington has any of those guys right now, so to me, getting a couple 1st and 2nd round picks for him is fine. I get the frustration though; it's going to be another very long season in DC, though I don't think Avdija would have saved us from that fate anyways.

Having said all that, I do feel like there's a decent chance he could have returned more value a year from now.
I could see Edey being the pick at 14.

I'm hoping for Holland or Holmes.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#137 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:55 pm

Another really bad day in Washinhton Wizards history.

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#138 » by closg00 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:55 pm

Stunned in disbelief, Deni was the 9th pick in his draft and he is at that value or better and we didn’t get their 7th pick, Ainge or Presti would have. Portland wins the trade going away
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#139 » by tsvqt » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:56 pm

DCZards wrote:Well, if it’s Carrington, that would lessen the blow for me. I’m on record as saying he’s a top guard in this draft…right up there with Dillingham and Sheppard.


I’m a Bub fan as well, but if somehow Topic fell here, no-brainer pick.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#140 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:56 pm

AFM wrote:Imagine PIF screaming in the Mexico City ballet right now lmao

Ballet doesn't start for a while, but this makes absolutely no sense whatever to me.

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