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Political Roundtable Part XXXIII

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Post#121 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:37 pm

I mean, if the shooter had no political affiliation, how do we know he wasn't hired by JD Vance?
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Post#123 » by Benjammin » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:56 pm

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Post#124 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:57 pm

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Post#126 » by Wizardspride » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:41 pm

The chatter is Biden will be leaving the race soon.

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Post#127 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:53 pm

Wizardspride wrote:The chatter is Biden will be leaving the race soon.


They are asking him to, hopefully he is realizing that it’s over for him and will step down, hopefully somehow they get new candidates and enough time to stop the Trump train, he has the air of inevitability right now.
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Post#128 » by Wizardspride » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:09 pm

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Wizardspride wrote:The chatter is Biden will be leaving the race soon.


They are asking him to, hopefully he is realizing that it’s over for him and will step down, hopefully somehow they get new candidates and enough time to stop the Trump train, he has the air of inevitability right now.

My choice.

Kamala Harris.

VP candidates: JB Pritzker (Illinois Gov), Roy Cooper (NC Gov) and Andy Beshear (Kentucky Gov).

That's off the top of my head.

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Post#130 » by pancakes3 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:23 pm

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the problem is groupthink drives elections.

it may be unfortunate that this decision isn't based off fairness, morality, or policy/track record, but it's also grounded in reality of how people vote. and the stakes are pretty high.
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Post#133 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:02 pm

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Post#134 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:05 pm

Replacing Biden with a young, energetic, exciting new shiny candidate would be all the MSM would talk about for MONTHS. It would suck all the air right out of the GOP's usual master manipulation of it. I don't know how much that matters, but there it is. Everyone who hates Trump is going to vote for whomever the Dems put up there and a younger, pro-Palestinier candidate could energize younger voters. I say go for it. I don't like Biden that much anyway.
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Post#135 » by Pointgod » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:18 pm

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the problem is groupthink drives elections.

it may be unfortunate that this decision isn't based off fairness, morality, or policy/track record, but it's also grounded in reality of how people vote. and the stakes are pretty high.


If this was the case you’d have President Hillary Clinton. No one has started voting and polls 4 months from an election within the margin of error shouldn’t cause the freak out we’re seeing.

You guys are falling for the same trap the media is falling for that elections are based on media narratives instead of the actual hard work of building campaign infrastructure, building coalitions and making sure your base first and foremost turns out. Replacing Biden is going to have all of the effects you believe it will….
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Post#136 » by Pointgod » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:24 pm

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Post#137 » by bsilver » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:46 pm

Biden has to drop out.
Losing every swing state.
Now even losing Virginia.
Two thirds of democrats want him to drop out.
Only 27% of democrats confident he is mentally fit to be president.
Has mild case of Covid and can barely walk.
Money is drying up. Donors are reluctant to encourage Biden to stay in the race.

OTOH who the f wants Kamala Harris? But I have the feeling she’ll be the nominee. I hope they open everything up at the convention instead of back room deals.
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Post#138 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:54 pm

Pointgod wrote:Wise words to listen to.

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This is insulting actually, 2/3 Dem voters want Biden out.
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Post#139 » by bsilver » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:01 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Replacing Biden with a young, energetic, exciting new shiny candidate would be all the MSM would talk about for MONTHS. It would suck all the air right out of the GOP's usual master manipulation of it. I don't know how much that matters, but there it is. Everyone who hates Trump is going to vote for whomever the Dems put up there and a younger, pro-Palestinier candidate could energize younger voters. I say go for it. I don't like Biden that much anyway.

I never understood Biden’s appeal.
Plagiarism.
Anita Hill.
Draft dodger. (So was I but at least I was against the war)
Mass incarceration.
Forever war on drugs.
Botched Afghanistan withdrawal.
Only one in the room to vote “no” on mission to get Osama bin Ladin.

I was amazed by the fact checking done by the Post after his interview with Lester Holt that supposedly showed his foreign policy expertise. His “expertise” just full of distortions.

He created an image that must have appealed to many, but he’s just an empty suit politician with his finger in the air to figure out his position.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIII 

Post#140 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:03 pm

bsilver wrote:Biden has to drop out.
Losing every swing state.
Now even losing Virginia.
Two thirds of democrats want him to drop out.
Only 27% of democrats confident he is mentally fit to be president.
Has mild case of Covid and can barely walk.
Money is drying up. Donors are reluctant to encourage Biden to stay in the race.

OTOH who the f wants Kamala Harris? But I have the feeling she’ll be the nominee. I hope they open everything up at the convention instead of back room deals.


Harris is a bad candidate and very unpopular, the best outcome would be an open convention with new candidates, this would energize/motivate voters.

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