ImageImageImageImageImage

How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be?

Moderators: LyricalRico, nate33, montestewart

User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 54,600
And1: 10,334
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#121 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 3, 2025 12:29 am

dobrojim wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote: Johni Broome is killing it at Auburn.

Cooper Flagg is the home run superstar, but I might rather have Derik Queen plus another pick.


I don’t even think Cooper Flagg is a superstar. I just think he’s a complete player who is highly competitive. To me he scans as luxury Kyle Kuzma. Or a more aggressive and skilled Deni. That’s a damn good player, and a leader on any team, but he’s not a dominant matchup vs. anybody he faces. He’s just a box score plus/minus winner.

That’s fine as far as I’m concerned. We can get our matchup winning offensive player in the next draft.

That said I’m all on board for getting extra pics to snatch Johnni Broome as an instant veteran. I like Queen too, I just wonder if he’ll be as able to play bully ball against taller players and better athletes Unless of course, he hits the conditioning and adds even more strength plus speed to his footwork. I think we’d get Broome at a discount since he’s an older player. Maybe even with a high second round pick


I wonder if in 3-5 years, people will still have the opinion(s) they have today about the relative strength/weakness
of the 2024 and 2025 drafts. Will either Flagg or Harper be the best player from the 2025 draft?

I remember when Wiggins and Jabari Parker came out. While Wiggins has been really good from my eyeball test,
Parker's not in the league. Wiggins has been quite good but he was maybe a little overhyped. Don't get me wrong,
I'd take him on my team in a heartbeat but the predictions were sky high for him. I don't know that Wiggins would
ever be a #1 option on a champ team unless he was 1a with a very good 1b and 1c behind him.
Jabari Parker and Marvin Bagley have been huge busts relative to where they were drafted.

I could be very wrong on Queen but he's got moves and a nifty game. His numbers so far ar overwhelmingly good for a freshman. He's still a baby-faced kid. I think he's quick and has a vet soft touch. He should be a solid pro.
Tre Johnson is the future of the Wizards.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 54,600
And1: 10,334
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#122 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:07 am

Kam Jones

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/nba-draft-marquette-s-kam-jones-continues-raising-draft-stock

Interesting article an example of an athlete improving over four years in college.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/4697268/kam-jones

Plays for Marquette, a possible championship contender. Looking at his box scores he has played terrific against Wisconsin, Purdue, and Maryland a o g others. He's a scoring guard with playmaker skills. As a second round pick he might play like an instant veteran.

Eric Dixon

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4431718/eric-dixon

He's an SF/PF tweener who scores at three levels but doesn't rebound well. I don't expect he'll make an NBA roster, but he might be worth a look I. G-League. He's a bucket.
Tre Johnson is the future of the Wizards.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 54,600
And1: 10,334
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#123 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:14 am

Those last few posts belong in the draft thread.

(Sorry, mods)
Tre Johnson is the future of the Wizards.
User avatar
Chocolate City Jordanaire
RealGM
Posts: 54,600
And1: 10,334
Joined: Aug 05, 2001
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#124 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Jan 3, 2025 4:38 am

All that bragging on Queen, and he played like CRAP tonight.
Tre Johnson is the future of the Wizards.
dckingsfan
RealGM
Posts: 34,728
And1: 20,335
Joined: May 28, 2010

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#125 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:31 pm

I think that the '92 Dallas Mavs had a -15.2 differential. I am feeling we are safe with our -14.3 differential.
User avatar
FAH1223
RealGM
Posts: 16,288
And1: 7,382
Joined: Nov 01, 2005
Location: Laurel, MD
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#126 » by FAH1223 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:14 pm

The team plays much better without Kuzma. They will still lose a lot but Kuz has been so bad. He is a legitimate anchor.
Image
dckingsfan
RealGM
Posts: 34,728
And1: 20,335
Joined: May 28, 2010

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#127 » by dckingsfan » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:03 pm

FAH1223 wrote:The team plays much better without Kuzma. They will still lose a lot but Kuz has been so bad. He is a legitimate anchor.

This. He has completely tanked his trade value.

At least they played harder in this last game. They were competitive until the 4th quarter.
CntOutSmrtCrazy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,480
And1: 3,506
Joined: Dec 08, 2011

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#128 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:30 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:The team plays much better without Kuzma. They will still lose a lot but Kuz has been so bad. He is a legitimate anchor.

This. He has completely tanked his trade value.

At least they played harder in this last game. They were competitive until the 4th quarter.


Kuzma has always been a turd. He just won the mickey mouse champ with Lakers in the bubble and he somehow got vastly overrated by the Wizards organization time and again.

Fun fact, even during that mickey mouse, bubble title, Kuzma has a -10.2 on-off over 21 games. Another empty calorie player.
Frichuela
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,542
And1: 3,659
Joined: Feb 25, 2015
 

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#129 » by Frichuela » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:58 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:The team plays much better without Kuzma. They will still lose a lot but Kuz has been so bad. He is a legitimate anchor.

This. He has completely tanked his trade value.

At least they played harder in this last game. They were competitive until the 4th quarter.


Kuzma has always been a turd. He just won the mickey mouse champ with Lakers in the bubble and he somehow got vastly overrated by the Wizards organization time and again.

Fun fact, even during that mickey mouse, bubble title, Kuzma has a -10.2 on-off over 21 games. Another empty calorie player.


1000%. I never understood the hype for this clown. He is the quintessential inefficient, selfish and low IQ basketball player.

His performance has cratered this season, which does not help in a trade scenario.

Most annoyingly, he turned up unfit after the off season. Tired of watching him casually jogging around the court and playing matador D. Fans would be more understanding if he displayed consistent effort on D, cut on silly turnovers and moved the ball more willingly.
AFM
RealGM
Posts: 12,453
And1: 8,668
Joined: May 25, 2012
   

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#130 » by AFM » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:53 pm

What hype? I don't think I've ever read a single positive thing about his play. From anyone.
dckingsfan
RealGM
Posts: 34,728
And1: 20,335
Joined: May 28, 2010

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#131 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:15 am

AFM wrote:What hype? I don't think I've ever read a single positive thing about his play. From anyone.

Hmmm, I remember there were lots of folks that thought it was a good signing. Just saying...
User avatar
FAH1223
RealGM
Posts: 16,288
And1: 7,382
Joined: Nov 01, 2005
Location: Laurel, MD
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#132 » by FAH1223 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:21 am

dckingsfan wrote:
AFM wrote:What hype? I don't think I've ever read a single positive thing about his play. From anyone.

Hmmm, I remember there were lots of folks that thought it was a good signing. Just saying...


The re-signing was fine to keep the asset.

Getting him in the Russ trade was fine.
Image
User avatar
gambitx777
RealGM
Posts: 10,543
And1: 1,988
Joined: Dec 18, 2012

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#133 » by gambitx777 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:20 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
AFM wrote:What hype? I don't think I've ever read a single positive thing about his play. From anyone.

Hmmm, I remember there were lots of folks that thought it was a good signing. Just saying...


The re-signing was fine to keep the asset.

Getting him in the Russ trade was fine.
Everything up to now was fine.

The trade.
The deal.
Where we went wrong was we gave him our word and a hand shake deal that if we got under this much of an offer we'll let you decide. And he said no and we honored that.

Then he didn't hold up his end and regressed.

Sent from my SM-S926U1 using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
tontoz
RealGM
Posts: 20,289
And1: 5,046
Joined: Apr 11, 2005

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#134 » by tontoz » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:18 pm

I am definitely concerned about how bad Sarr and Bub are at finishing inside.
"bulky agile perimeter bone crunch pick setting draymond green" WizD
Zonkerbl
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 9,037
And1: 4,735
Joined: Mar 24, 2010
       

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#135 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:49 pm

I'm concerned about how lousy our defensive rotations are. Do the players not know what their defensive assignments are, or is the defensive system just bad? I.e. is it a coaching problem or a personnel problem. I'm kinda leaning towards the latter because it's not just the rookies who look confused out there
I've been taught all my life to value service to the weak and powerless.
User avatar
pancakes3
General Manager
Posts: 9,585
And1: 3,014
Joined: Jul 27, 2003
Location: Virginia
Contact:

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#136 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:35 pm

tontoz wrote:I am definitely concerned about how bad Sarr and Bub are at finishing inside.


Sarr needs a dunk incentive worked into his contract.

i'm concerned at Bilal's development. There's still time, so I'm not panicking, but I was really hoping for more.
Bullets -> Wizards
Benjammin
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,473
And1: 629
Joined: Jan 18, 2003

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#137 » by Benjammin » Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:27 pm

I'm concerned how concerned people are about 19 year old rookies not progressing as quickly as they believe they should.

Sent from my Pixel 9 Pro XL using Tapatalk
trast66
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,321
And1: 707
Joined: Oct 20, 2017
 

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#138 » by trast66 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:20 am

Zonkerbl wrote:I'm concerned about how lousy our defensive rotations are. Do the players not know what their defensive assignments are, or is the defensive system just bad? I.e. is it a coaching problem or a personnel problem. I'm kinda leaning towards the latter because it's not just the rookies who look confused out there


I think personnel. The core 4 are just too inexperienced at this level to know what to do most of the time. Poole and Kuzma certainly not known for effort on defense. Kispert may be worst defender in league. JV not a good rim protector and can’t get out on guards.

Bilal, Sarr, and Bub have the dimensions and athleticism to eventually be very good defenders, especially Bilal and Sarr. Winger is from OKC school were they want long arms, one reason he saw short armed Deni as expendable.

Bilal would really benefit from not having so many offensive duties and play a role similar to OG Anunoby. Cooper Flagg would be a perfect fit for us in that way.
GatherStepGuru
Sophomore
Posts: 165
And1: 68
Joined: Jun 23, 2024
         

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#139 » by GatherStepGuru » Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:32 am

Im concerned that we had 3 1st round picks last year and 1 the year before, and I still don’t see a convincing candidate to build around moving forward from now.
User avatar
J-Ves
Analyst
Posts: 3,055
And1: 1,287
Joined: May 16, 2012
 

Re: How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be? 

Post#140 » by J-Ves » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:34 am

Concerned that this team can make 8 more 3 pointers than their opponent and still lose handily

Return to Washington Wizards