Does Pecherov Suck?
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I sort of forgot he was on the roster.
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He's been all but forgotten, but personally, I'd still like to see him get some minutes. Not nearly as much as Young and McGee, but still at least a few. I can't imagine him ever turning into anything great, but I still see a chance at carving out a role as a big who can rebound on defense and hit threes on offense. We already picked up his option for next year, so why not take advantage of our down time to see if there's any potential life in there?
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Yeah, he might not be great but I don't think he deserves a "suck" thread. He's not costing us any games and the coaches aren't stubbornly refusing to see his flaws.
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The development staff is inept. Any other NBA team could have ironed Pech out and turned him into a serviceable player. I can't stand how this org treats young talent.
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Pecherov IMO does not suck as bad as DeShawn sucks right now.
OPEC can hit three point shots and rebound reasonably well. Jwiz, I agree he'd be serviceable with a better staff developing him.
OPEC can hit three point shots and rebound reasonably well. Jwiz, I agree he'd be serviceable with a better staff developing him.
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I think we could have atleast utilized him the way L.A does Radmanovic, but we'd have to have a legit, disciplined offense to do that. 
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Does he suck? Who knows. We don't get to see him play at all. We do know, however, that Deshawn , Etan, and Mike James do.
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i think pecherov probably does suck (and then why the extra year) but now would seem to be the time to actually find out. it's not like we have anything to lose.
Until Grunfeld goes there is no rebuild.
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I am re-thinking my position on Pech. Considering what we know now about "player development" under the Wizard organization, Pech might have, and still might become a serviceable bench-player under proper coaching combined with playing time. Pech should have played in the D-League under the Wiz supervision. I say let the new coach, well...coach him and use him if we can't use him for trade filler.
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I've suspected for awhile that there's a chance he might not suck, but we'll never know under this regime. As closg00 said, I wonder if he wouldn't be a valuable bench player/specialist for a competitive team with a competent staff.
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He has the skills to develop into a good reserve player. He could come off the bench and create real matchup problems for opposing teams. We know he can shoot, he appears to be developing some other offensive moves aside from hitting 3 balls. He has enough size and athleticism to develop into a competent defender and rebounder. He very likely also has a grittyness that has yet to be tapped.
As clogs00 and cranky todd mentioned: He could have benefited from D-League action, better player development. And in a lost season such as this one, a season that was lost months ago, they squandered an opprotunity to give him real minutes in live game action. He got few minutes this year, just imagine how little he will play next year with Haywood and Arenas back.
As clogs00 and cranky todd mentioned: He could have benefited from D-League action, better player development. And in a lost season such as this one, a season that was lost months ago, they squandered an opprotunity to give him real minutes in live game action. He got few minutes this year, just imagine how little he will play next year with Haywood and Arenas back.
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OP not getting more playing time is an interesting one to explain. Specially since we needed more post players.
Only real explanation I can come up with is kind of complicated.
First, I think he started the year injured again.
Then we got McGee.
We needed someone who could at least have a clue at center so that was Blatche.
Later they realized that was really DSONG so he started with Blatche and McGee getting the back up minutes.
AJ was needed to add stability on the floor so he got a lot of the minutes at PF. So you have
DSong, Blatche AJ, McGee and earlier you had Etan.
With so many other young players on the floor they just didn't want to add another.
Crit, NY, DMAC, and McGee
Plus, when healthy, there may not even be a active roster spot for him so why give him tons of playing time only to deactivate him. Better to keep him on ice for now and develop him in the background. Our own D league.
Here is who we have to be active next year.
Haywood, AJ, CB, DS, GA
McGee, Etan, AB, DSONG, DMAC, NY, Critter
And that doesn't even count a draft pick or James. So OP will likely be deactivated until at some point we clear some roster spots.
Something is going to happen before next season. It has to. We don't have enough slots for all these players.
Only real explanation I can come up with is kind of complicated.
First, I think he started the year injured again.
Then we got McGee.
We needed someone who could at least have a clue at center so that was Blatche.
Later they realized that was really DSONG so he started with Blatche and McGee getting the back up minutes.
AJ was needed to add stability on the floor so he got a lot of the minutes at PF. So you have
DSong, Blatche AJ, McGee and earlier you had Etan.
With so many other young players on the floor they just didn't want to add another.
Crit, NY, DMAC, and McGee
Plus, when healthy, there may not even be a active roster spot for him so why give him tons of playing time only to deactivate him. Better to keep him on ice for now and develop him in the background. Our own D league.
Here is who we have to be active next year.
Haywood, AJ, CB, DS, GA
McGee, Etan, AB, DSONG, DMAC, NY, Critter
And that doesn't even count a draft pick or James. So OP will likely be deactivated until at some point we clear some roster spots.
Something is going to happen before next season. It has to. We don't have enough slots for all these players.
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I'm warming up to Pesh
he looks considerably better recently than he ever did in the past
less clueless, more multi-dimensional
but there's definitely a #s problem as mentioned above
he BETTER be a gym rat if he wants to see the light of day
but I'll give him props for working so this current opportunity
due to injuries is one that he has well perhaps seized is going
too far given he hasn't been great. But he's looked better.
but his apparent improvement could mean he could make good
trade bait hopefully allowing us to unload bad contracts.
he looks considerably better recently than he ever did in the past
less clueless, more multi-dimensional
but there's definitely a #s problem as mentioned above
he BETTER be a gym rat if he wants to see the light of day
but I'll give him props for working so this current opportunity
due to injuries is one that he has well perhaps seized is going
too far given he hasn't been great. But he's looked better.
but his apparent improvement could mean he could make good
trade bait hopefully allowing us to unload bad contracts.
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That's the problem with this roster is we have one healthy starter and about 9 fairly promising reserve players.
Help us, Obi-wan Leonsis. You're our only hope.
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The problem with this roster is closed-mindedness and bad coaching.
If they aren't tanking they should see that the right lineup to play is Young, McGuire, Jamison, Blatche and Songaila. Jamison and Young can score. McGuire and Blatche can both defend and pass. Songaila is terribly efficient and a stabilizing force when not at C.
McGee and Crittenton should come off the bench. James should not play.
McGee should come in for Jamison or Songaila, with the one that remains to be at SF. JAMISON SHOULD BE THE SF. Period. He's very effective there.
The coaching staff should be smart enough to see that Blatche with McGee will be very effective at PF/C if given time, but they aren't.
If they aren't tanking they should see that the right lineup to play is Young, McGuire, Jamison, Blatche and Songaila. Jamison and Young can score. McGuire and Blatche can both defend and pass. Songaila is terribly efficient and a stabilizing force when not at C.
McGee and Crittenton should come off the bench. James should not play.
McGee should come in for Jamison or Songaila, with the one that remains to be at SF. JAMISON SHOULD BE THE SF. Period. He's very effective there.
The coaching staff should be smart enough to see that Blatche with McGee will be very effective at PF/C if given time, but they aren't.
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uhh if he's not playing on this roster then yea there's a pretty good bet he sucks.
By now we should know that Blache is ok....Young is ok..Mcguire is ok none ever gonna be a star but quality role players. Mcgee...could be special. Pecherov is garbage
By now we should know that Blache is ok....Young is ok..Mcguire is ok none ever gonna be a star but quality role players. Mcgee...could be special. Pecherov is garbage
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Up...
To answer the original question -- obviously not. He just got screwed on minutes by EJ and Tankscott. Not playing him last year in a 19-win season was just stupid and shortsighted by the Wizards coaching staff.
He's been pretty solid in Minnesota when given a chance. Not to say he would have had an opportunity to play here, but it's a shame he didn't get a chance given our situation.
To answer the original question -- obviously not. He just got screwed on minutes by EJ and Tankscott. Not playing him last year in a 19-win season was just stupid and shortsighted by the Wizards coaching staff.
He's been pretty solid in Minnesota when given a chance. Not to say he would have had an opportunity to play here, but it's a shame he didn't get a chance given our situation.
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True, but as other posters have already mentioned there is only so much you can do with 3 young inexperienced 7-footers. Drafting Pech was a mistake from the beginning because the team had their sights on signing Songaila and had drafted Blatche a year before. The addition of McGee basically assured everyone the Pech wouldn't get PT and wouldn't be with the Wiz long-term. I'm confident that the Wiz made the right decision in choosing McGee and Blatche over Pech. I hope Pech does well, but I'm sure McGee and Blatche will do better.
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yungal07 wrote:Up...
To answer the original question -- obviously not. He just got screwed on minutes by EJ and Tankscott. Not playing him last year in a 19-win season was just stupid and shortsighted by the Wizards coaching staff.
He's been pretty solid in Minnesota when given a chance. Not to say he would have had an opportunity to play here, but it's a shame he didn't get a chance given our situation.
Just to show you how stupid Tankscott is, had Tankscott played Pech evenly modestly during last-years "lost season", Pech could have shown then what he has been able to do now for Minny - be a decent but not great back-up big w/shooting ability; we then could have been in a stronger position to demand Minny's 28th pick or at-least a 2nd rounder in next-years draft. Remember is it Tankscott who is in-charge of "Player Development". I loath the man
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no D in Hibachi wrote:True, but as other posters have already mentioned there is only so much you can do with 3 young inexperienced 7-footers. Drafting Pech was a mistake from the beginning because the team had their sights on signing Songaila and had drafted Blatche a year before. The addition of McGee basically assured everyone the Pech wouldn't get PT and wouldn't be with the Wiz long-term. I'm confident that the Wiz made the right decision in choosing McGee and Blatche over Pech. I hope Pech does well, but I'm sure McGee and Blatche will do better.
no D I always think about the other two young 7-footers ahead of OPEC but forget the Wizards also had Darius ahead of Pecherov. Your post reminded me of just how foolish the Wizards were. That kid had no chance to make it in DC.
As for Pecherov, I'm glad yungal pulled this up. We know for a fact he doesn't suck already. Handed Boston their butts one game and has had some okay play with not so okay since. He's just 24 (actually 23 til next month) and has less played considerably less NBA minutes (852) than Javale (1225)McGee. Think about that.
WARNING: jholmbe1, I'm about to go on in 20/20 hindsight here. If you haven't put me on ignore, now would be a good time to stop reading this post.
As for Pecherov, the Wizards decided McGee and Blatche. I have no problem with that. What I absolutely HATED about the trade with Minnesota is they didn't get either Minnesota's #18 pick or the #28. I said at the time Pecherov IMO has Mehmet Okur potential. Shoots the three and is a decent rebounder. Very few guys that big shoot it like he does. Pecherov had missed a lot of shots and had shown the instinct to shy from contact and take the three. 'Some folks hated that. I say guys like Bargnani and Scalabrini make a living that way. So, too, can Pecherov.
no D, what I want to see for Pecherov is hwo he plays with Kevin Love or fully recovered Al Jefferson. Oleksisy's starting to get regular minutes. He's going to get a lot better IMO.
He may be no more than a serviceable NBA player, or then again he could hit a lot of big shots in the future like Okur. He doesn't suck. The Wizards essentially got nothing for him. The Timberwolves dealt the #18 the Wizards should have gotten for Pecherov.
I am very happy Pecherov is on a team that's giving him a real hope to contribute.
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