Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread.

[2Fluffy4U]

From the beginning when Rui won the SF position in training camp but the position was given to Deni , I thought the most impactful lineup would be KP,Kuz and Rui up front.
The best teams in the NBA can score points at a high level.It's no accident that the highest scoring teams are all near the top of the standings .Constantly the Wiz are outscored with Deni and Corey struggling to put points up with the amount of minutes they're playing.
I cant see KP,Beal,or Kuz playing in any way but to win so that means a lineup tweak needs to happen because Deni and Montae in the starting lineup isnt working. Goodwin and Rui need to replace Deni and Montae.
I would like to see a Delon Wright,Deni Avija,Daniel Gafford led 2nd unit.Add in Kispert and Morris in to complete the 2nd unit . Yes Barton needs to be phased out ,he is a supreme ballstopper and would kill ball movement of the 2nd unit.

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

Corey and Deni struggle because the Big 3 are expected to take most of the shots anyway. The reason Rui did not start was probably because once he gets the ball he rarely passes it and if I am Beal, Kuz or KP - I rather have him be the scoring leader for the bench. Which he can be and can do quite well.

Another thing to note is that playing defense is tiring and for Beal or Kuz to guard the opponent's best player is hurting their chances to be great on offense. Adding Rui to this lineup will mean no defense at all..

[DCZards]

From the beginning when Rui won the SF position in training camp but the position was given to Deni , I thought the most impactful lineup would be KP,Kuz and Rui up front.
The best teams in the NBA can score points at a high level.It's no accident that the highest scoring teams are all near the top of the standings .Constantly the Wiz are outscored with Deni and Corey struggling to put points up with the amount of minutes they're playing.
I cant see KP,Beal,or Kuz playing in any way but to win so that means a lineup tweak needs to happen because Deni and Montae in the starting lineup isnt working. Goodwin and Rui need to replace Deni and Montae.
I would like to see a Delon Wright,Deni Avija,Daniel Gafford led 2nd unit.Add in Kispert and Morris in to complete the 2nd unit . Yes Barton needs to be phased out ,he is a supreme ballstopper and would kill ball movement of the 2nd unit.

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

Corey and Deni struggle because the Big 3 are expected to take most of the shots anyway. The reason Rui did not start was probably because once he gets the ball he rarely passes it and if I am Beal, Kuz or KP - I rather have him be the scoring leader for the bench. Which he can be and can do quite well.

Another thing to note is that playing defense is tiring and for Beal or Kuz to guard the opponent's best player is hurting their chances to be great on offense. Adding Rui to this lineup will mean no defense at all..

Yeah...Wes Jr. knew what he was doing when he started Deni over Rui. The Zards need Deni's D on the first unit and they need Rui to be a scorer off the bench..which is something Deni would struggle to do.

[tleikheen]

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

I watched the Bulls when Derrick Rose was kicking a$$ and the 2nd unit came in shut teams down game after game with great defense and by the way a young Taj Gibson was part of that lineup .

Defense creates turnovers and you dont need to "score points at a high level" against 2nd units .Losers of 10/11 games it becomes pretty clear Rui was never the problem .

[DCZards]

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

I watched the Bulls when Derrick Rose was kicking a$$ and the 2nd unit came in shut teams down game after game with great defense and by the way a young Taj Gibson was part of that lineup .

Defense creates turnovers and you dont need to "score points at a high level" against 2nd units .Losers of 10/11 games it becomes pretty clear Rui was never the problem .

The two best teams that Derrick Rose played on with the Bulls was the 2010-2011 (the year Rose was MVP) and 2011-2012 teams.

Kyle Korver was a second unit scorer for both teams.

[payitforward]

As far as I can tell, Zards, there is little point in responding to tleikheen -- either with facts or with analysis; to my knowledge he never acknowledges anyone else's POV. He seems to prefer to pontificate & he takes great pleasure in how correct he is utterly certain he is.

Actual facts don't matter to him. Thus, to him...

Barton... is a supreme ballstopper

...even though the truth is that Will has been average or above in assists for his entire career (he had 9 last night) & has never been known as a guy who takes an especially large number of shots.

As to his inane claim that a first unit needs to score a lot of points while a second unit needs to shut down the opponent -- aside from being made up whole cloth & also being untrue of the very Bulls squad on which he wants to base the claim, it is not an atypical example of his way of proceeding, which is to invent a general truth to support some particular recommendation that has no other basis at all.

A typical example might be his repeated praise for Rui as a shooter -- that, e.g., he is "blistering the net" on mid-range shots & also "goes to the hole" (words to that effect...) with authority in "man-sized moves" when the obvious fact is that Rui's 2 pt% (both this year & on his career) is substantially below average for a 4 (that's what he is).

As are his 3pt% & his FT% as well, btw. Ditto his offensive boards, assists, turnovers, blocks & steals. (But, it is only fair to mention that Rui's defensive boards are slightly above average, & he doesn't foul much at all.)

[FAH1223]

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[Dat2U]

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

I watched the Bulls when Derrick Rose was kicking a$$ and the 2nd unit came in shut teams down game after game with great defense and by the a young Taj Gibson was part of that lineup .

Defense creates turnovers and you dont need to "score points at a high level" against 2nd units .Losers of 10/11 games it becomes pretty clear Rui was never the problem .

Ever heard "if your not part of the solution, your part of the problem?".

The team wasn't good when Rui was playing. His own numbers aren't very good. If you actually watch him play defense for 5 minutes, its clear he's generally lost on that end. Nice kid. I wish him well. Probably has a good work ethic but the lack of feel is damning and really hard to overcome. Zach LaVine, Kelly Oubre have overcome it to an extent but even still they are extremely flawed players. Also Rui is about to turn 25, hasn't improved much the last few years and now is looking for an extension.

Rui will get a modest 2 year deal from some team in the hopes he can figure out but me calling him the 'next Mike Scott' prior to the draft seems pretty close to accurate.

[FAH1223]

I disagree with you completly. Do you think the suggested bench lineup of Delon, Deni and Gaf can 'score points at high level'?

I watched the Bulls when Derrick Rose was kicking a$$ and the 2nd unit came in shut teams down game after game with great defense and by the a young Taj Gibson was part of that lineup .

Defense creates turnovers and you dont need to "score points at a high level" against 2nd units .Losers of 10/11 games it becomes pretty clear Rui was never the problem .

Ever heard "if your not part of the solution, your part of the problem?".

The team wasn't good when Rui was playing. His own numbers aren't very good. If you actually watch him play defense for 5 minutes, its clear he's generally lost on that end. Nice kid. I wish him well. Probably has a good work ethic but the lack of feel is damning and really hard to overcome. Zach LaVine, Kelly Oubre have overcome it to an extent but even still they are extremely flawed players. Also Rui is about to turn 25, hasn't improved much the last few years and now is looking for an extension.

Rui will get a modest 2 year deal from some team in the hopes he can figure out but me calling him the 'next Mike Scott' prior to the draft seems pretty close to accurate.

Philly
Miami
Phoenix
Milwaukee

I bet will sign him for tax payer MLE money.

[nate33]

If we end up trading away Kuzma, then I would expect Tommy to extend the $8.4M qualifying offer to Rui. With the QO on the table, I doubt Rui would settle for the taxpayer MLE.

[payitforward]

Even if we don't trade Kuzma, given that he's going to opt out the same reasoning might apply & might get Rui his qualifying offer.

Would I give it to him? No. I'd rather have the roster spot to use on an undrafted player or on an extra R2 pick we somehow acquire.

Time to start over. But, were I Ted, I couldn't do that with Tommy still at the helm. Too many boneheaded moves.

[tleikheen]

WHen it comes to this board the Rui hate is bigger than the 10 game losing streak that Rui hasnt been involved in . Im still waiting on the stat Rui was the guy that lost all these games .

[nate33]

Even if we don't trade Kuzma, given that he's going to opt out the same reasoning might apply & might get Rui his qualifying offer.

Problem is, if Kuzma gets paid $20M+, we won't be able to afford even that $8.4M QO while staying under the luxtax.

I just don't think it makes any sense to pay both Rui and Kuzma going forward. These are the sacrifices that must be made when you pay a non-All-Star a supermax contract. You simply can't afford expensive depth.

[Tyrone Messby]

Even if we don't trade Kuzma, given that he's going to opt out the same reasoning might apply & might get Rui his qualifying offer.

Problem is, if Kuzma gets paid $20M+, we won't be able to afford even that $8.4M QO while staying under the luxtax.

I just don't think it makes any sense to pay both Rui and Kuzma going forward. These are the sacrifices that must be made when you pay a non-All-Star a supermax contract. You simply can't afford expensive depth.

I wish they’d trade everyone if they could. This team has zero direction and is actually surpassing the suckiness I anticipated. I sort of take some pleasure in it because it makes Ted look like an even bigger clown. And this is “Beal’s team”

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

They should do this:

SEE THE GOOD


EVERY PLAYER SHOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE MARC CUBAN charter but not ego stroke coddle aka Brad/Ted

OBJECtiVELY APprECIAte rELative strengths so guys like Gary Payton 2 do not have to do the same damn thing on a better team just to finally be BOBBY PORTIS appreciated.

Fans of this team are no better than the IDIOTS who booed the Terps in the first half IN COLLEGE PARK vs UCLA.

I'm seeing human nature different and I'm actually at peace/happy calling the shot THE WAY I SEE IT>

[FAH1223]

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Yessir. LOCKED ON WIZArds!!!
Love hate listening to these fellas, the cohost is completely delusional but such is the state of wizard fans

[dckingsfan]

Reminder - this is the Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread. Try to keep it on who should play and when and the schemas Wes is using.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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F the Wizards

A the TANK

C they haven't flucked up, yet, but this coach is a bum mer.

K (?) Okay, those are my opinions

F-A-C-K fack the wizards

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Reminder - this is the Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread. Try to keep it on who should play and when and the schemas Wes is using.

OBVIOUS TO ME anyway

Morris can start, but GOODWIN is the MOST EFFECTIVE PG ----->1- PG Goodwin
Beal -----> SG Beal
At three any of all of the above---KUZMA, Deni, Wright, Rui, Barton, GILL ----> MY KILLER CORRECT CHOICE 3-SF KUZMA

Kuzma
Deni
Wright
sometimes Will the Thrill Baltimore Barton

ANY of these dudes can effectively play SF but KUZMA is the plus rebounder with a complete game and DENI IS AN ELITE DEFENDER and plus facilitator. Barton when hot hits big shots. Wright is a dogged defender better at guard spots but he can play 3. GILL would be fine as a SF but the damn depth chart... RUI can score like Carmelo at times. He's a very useful Bertans three point shooter with some Dr J in him.

The Wizards have SO MUCH

The do not have clear thinking at HC or any vision, imagination, GENIUS

SF I WOULD PREFER TO START DENI and make Kuzma sixth man because KYLE ALREADY KNOWS the role the best. Deni would be my C at time just like Ben Simmons.

My 4 would be DAN GAFFORD PF starter. If you don't agree fine and I'm not even gonna try and explain why

My 5 would be Porzingas for FAR FEWER MINUTES and a lot more of Gafford, Gill, GIBSON for spot duty EXACTLY NOT LIKE IDiOT junior is using him.



Goodwin, Beal, Kuzma, Gafford, Porzingas

Deni, Wright, Morris, Barton, Gibson Gill would all have some shine

Hachimura? Too good not to play but I might have to trade him because there's only enough room for so many players.

IF I HAD MY WAY there'd be NO BEAL and Rui would shoot a lot like a shooting guard.

Positionless ball

[deneem4]

Reminder - this is the Line-ups, rotation, analysis thread. Try to keep it on who should play and when and the schemas Wes is using.

OBVIOUS TO ME anyway

Morris can start, but GOODWIN is the MOST EFFECTIVE PG ----->1- PG Goodwin
Beal -----> SG Beal
At three any of all of the above---KUZMA, Deni, Wright, Rui, Barton, GILL ----> MY KILLER CORRECT CHOICE 3-SF KUZMA

Kuzma
Deni
Wright
sometimes Will the Thrill Baltimore Barton

ANY of these dudes can effectively play SF but KUZMA is the plus rebounder with a complete game and DENI IS AN ELITE DEFENDER and plus facilitator. Barton when hot hits big shots. Wright is a dogged defender better at guard spots but he can play 3. GILL would be fine as a SF but the damn depth chart... RUI can score like Carmelo at times. He's a very useful Bertans three point shooter with some Dr J in him.

The Wizards have SO MUCH

The do not have clear thinking at HC or any vision, imagination, GENIUS

SF I WOULD PREFER TO START DENI and make Kuzma sixth man because KYLE ALREADY KNOWS the role the best. Deni would be my C at time just like Ben Simmons.

My 4 would be DAN GAFFORD PF starter. If you don't agree fine and I'm not even gonna try and explain why

My 5 would be Porzingas for FAR FEWER MINUTES and a lot more of Gafford, Gill, GIBSON for spot duty EXACTLY NOT LIKE IDiOT junior is using him.



Goodwin, Beal, Kuzma, Gafford, Porzingas

Deni, Wright, Morris, Barton, Gibson Gill would all have some shine

Hachimura? Too good not to play but I might have to trade him because there's only enough room for so many players.

IF I HAD MY WAY there'd be NO BEAL and Rui would shoot a lot like a shooting guard.

Positionless ball

This a better lineup

Deni
Beal
Rui
Kuz
KP

Bench is rotational on performance