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Post#1201 » by tontoz » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:53 pm

We lost by a point to a really good team. No biggie.
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Post#1202 » by Zonkerbl » Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:13 pm

Man it's hard to win on the road against a playoff quality team
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Post#1203 » by BearlyBallin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:25 pm

Thursday night game after a 1 point loss. It’s the Eagles so I’m going to be over the moon if we win on the road.

Great rivalry, tough opponent makes for another memorable moment in a surprising season.
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Post#1204 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:34 pm

Philadelphia is a 3-point favorite.

Jalen Hurts runs even better than Russell Wilson. I'm not expecting a win.
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Post#1205 » by Benjammin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:41 pm

Philly only being a 3 point favorite. That line will go up.
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Post#1206 » by W. Unseld » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:07 pm

CCJ, I think the book on defending JD has been out but only a defense as good as the Steelers could execute it. And they were helped along by multiple drops some bad calls (though bad calls went both ways) a missing O-tackle, a missing BRob and perhaps most importantly a missing stud CB. Who thinks that TD goes to Williams with Lattimore out there? Granted Lat would probably be guarding Pickens but that still allow for the rookie to guard Williams, huge height disadvantage but I be the rook jams him up earlier.

I echo what others have said, Steelers coming off a bye needed everything plus contributions from guys they had just picked up at the trade deadline to get win by 1 point. Philly could be tough too unfortunately but I sure would love to see if Lattimore can slow down AJ Brown and the Michigan rookie can corral the other WR.
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Post#1207 » by tontoz » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:46 pm

Benjammin wrote:Philly only being a 3 point favorite. That line will go up.


Las Vegas has way more info than we do. I suspect they know something we don't about a key player or players.
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Post#1208 » by Benjammin » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:13 pm

tontoz wrote:
Benjammin wrote:Philly only being a 3 point favorite. That line will go up.


Las Vegas has way more info than we do. I suspect they know something we don't about a key player or players.


The only purpose of a betting line is to equalize action on both sides of the bet so the house takes the vigorish. If people start betting on the Eagles the line will go up to attract money for Washington. We'll see.
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Post#1209 » by tontoz » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:20 pm

Benjammin wrote:
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Benjammin wrote:Philly only being a 3 point favorite. That line will go up.


Las Vegas has way more info than we do. I suspect they know something we don't about a key player or players.


The only purpose of a betting line is to equalize action on both sides of the bet so the house takes the vigorish. If people start betting on the Eagles the line will go up to attract money for Washington. We'll see.



That is overly simplistic. Vegas will not hesitate to take a side when they think they have an advantage.

Looks to me like they set up this line to bait people into betting the Eagles. Oddly it hasnt changed since you posted it. Sharps will jump on a line early when they see a good one.
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Post#1210 » by Kanyewest » Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:24 am

Both teams are 1-2 against over .500 teams. Short week probably favors the Eagles at home although they are also traveling from Dallas where they played later. Robinson being healthy could make the Commanders more formidable although still looks like they will be without Lattimore.
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Post#1211 » by Benjammin » Tue Nov 12, 2024 11:59 am

tontoz wrote:
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Las Vegas has way more info than we do. I suspect they know something we don't about a key player or players.


The only purpose of a betting line is to equalize action on both sides of the bet so the house takes the vigorish. If people start betting on the Eagles the line will go up to attract money for Washington. We'll see.



That is overly simplistic. Vegas will not hesitate to take a side when they think they have an advantage.

Looks to me like they set up this line to bait people into betting the Eagles. Oddly it hasnt changed since you posted it. Sharps will jump on a line early when they see a good one.


It may be overly simplistic, but it's exactly what oddsmakers do when a lot of money pours into one side of a bet. Vegas doesn't need big wins or big risks. They just want their cut.
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Post#1212 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:48 pm

Benjammin wrote:
It may be overly simplistic, but it's exactly what oddsmakers do when a lot of money pours into one side of a bet. Vegas doesn't need big wins or big risks. They just want their cut.


I don't gamble on sports but i have heard professional gamblers talk about this topic. Vegas will definitely try to take advantage of the casual gamblers as opposed to the "sharps" when they see opportunities.
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Post#1213 » by Benjammin » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:19 pm

^^^Fair enough. But that's not what normally drives a line moving.
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Post#1214 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:32 pm

Benjammin wrote:^^^Fair enough. But that's not what normally drives a line moving.



It is the initial line that Vegas sets. After that it is the market.

Having listened to a lot of these gamblers analyze games the casuals and pros typically are on opposit ends of the line. A lot of times the pros will wait until the line gets to a certain number before betting.

I just stay out of it. Hard way to make money.
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Post#1215 » by pancakes3 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:36 pm

W. Unseld wrote:CCJ, I think the book on defending JD has been out but only a defense as good as the Steelers could execute it.


Brian Baldinger dropped a clip saying that Patrick Queen was one of the few LB's who could keep JD5, and the overall run game contained bc he reads so quickly, and he gets to the runner so fast.

There was one clip he highlighted on an RPO where JD kept the ball and hit the edge, and Queen was able to (1) read it; (2) get to the edge clean without getting blocked; and (3) get there fast enough before JD could turn the corner and stopped it for a 1-2 yard gain instead of a 8-12 yard gain.

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Post#1216 » by tontoz » Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:49 pm

Gotta love the Bears getting blown out by the Cardinals. :lol:
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Post#1217 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:29 pm

Queen is a beast. Ravens could sure use him with their suspect defense this year.

If we get Lattimore back for Thursday I’ll feel a lot better about that game, but I’m expecting a split either way with the Eagles. Have played them extremely well the last two seasons with terrible rosters. We have a shot in any game with JD5. Steelers will probably be the best defense we see this season unless we run into the Lions/49ers or..Chiefs in the postseason. :lol:
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Post#1218 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:35 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Short.

Our mojo might fade from here on out. I think the book on how to defend JD is out.

Nope we are gonna be fine. Still dropped 27 on the Steelers without B Rob. Man just imagine this team with some real game breakers in addition to Terry. A legit TE and another game breaking WR..we are gonna be hell to play against.

Still love how the schedule shakes out. Cowboys games should both be wins. Titans and Saints too. Split Eagles and see what happens with the Falcons. That Falcons defense is suspect so could see a win there. The Steelers lost felt inevitable though when they couldn’t score a TD to make it 31-21 instead of 27-21. Tough game but almost had a shot there at the end just a yard short and a dumb penalty by Newton unfortunately. He has been a beast so far on the line though and great learning lesson for him.
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Post#1219 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Nov 14, 2024 7:45 pm

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W. Unseld wrote:CCJ, I think the book on defending JD has been out but only a defense as good as the Steelers could execute it.


Brian Baldinger dropped a clip saying that Patrick Queen was one of the few LB's who could keep JD5, and the overall run game contained bc he reads so quickly, and he gets to the runner so fast.

There was one clip he highlighted on an RPO where JD kept the ball and hit the edge, and Queen was able to (1) read it; (2) get to the edge clean without getting blocked; and (3) get there fast enough before JD could turn the corner and stopped it for a 1-2 yard gain instead of a 8-12 yard gain.

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Washington needs to establish a ground game between the tackles. They need to hit slant passes or flare outs to the flats more, instead of making Daniels have to run.
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Post#1220 » by BearlyBallin » Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:38 am

Inactive players
No. 3 K Austin Seibert
No. 16 QB Jeff Driskel (emergency QB)
No. 23 CB Marshon Lattimore
No. 36 RB Chris Rodriguez Jr.
No. 45 LB Dominique Hampton
No. 57 LB Nick Bellore
No. 75 G Chris Paul

I’m guessing B Rob is health. If the OL can stay on the field this will be close.

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