Discuss Ernie Grunfeld's GM skills here (Part 2)

[verbal8]

We could have an even better politics thread if Millie is a wacko liberal or at least willing to play one on the internet.

[nate33]

Merged.

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We could have an even better politics thread if Millie is a wacko conservative or at least willing to play one on the internet.

Fixed that for you....

But I do like the idea of merging any thread millie starts into the politics thread. Might be discouraging, no?

[montestewart]

We sit as the 4th seed and would avoid Lebron in 2nd round. Just need to trade our 1st round pick with a contract to get under luxury tax and Ted will consider Ernie the GM of the year.

& now, it's...

We sit as the 8th seed. Just need to trade our 1st round pick with a contract to get under the luxury tax, while acquiring "an established player" who will give us the "jolt" we need, and Ted will consider Ernie the GM of the year.

And now you see why you don't pay a 3 and d roll player who relies on others for wide open high percentage shots and doesn't anchor the defense with shot blocking all star caliber max money.

Is that you doing the announcing WizD?

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& now, it's...

We sit as the 8th seed. Just need to trade our 1st round pick with a contract to get under the luxury tax, while acquiring "an established player" who will give us the "jolt" we need, and Ted will consider Ernie the GM of the year.

And now you see why you don't pay a 3 and d roll player who relies on others for wide open high percentage shots and doesn't anchor the defense with shot blocking all star caliber max money.

I assume you mean Porter, which tells me that you aren't watching the games.

Who are some players in the NBA that you *do* like -- guys you think *are* worth max money? I don't mean "LeBron, etc." I mean a few guys that aren't obvious or already making the max. You have a few of them to offer?

Also, what exactly makes shot-blocking so important?

[FAH1223]

I love how every fan base knows how much Ernie sucks

I go to the Celtics-Wizards game thread on their forum and they have a post where they say Ernie sucks

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

I love how every fan base knows how much Ernie sucks

I go to the Celtics-Wizards game thread on their forum and they have a post where they say Ernie sucks

I know. It’s kind of like Elgin Baylor for all those years with the Clippers.

[Tricky_Kid]

I love how every fan base knows how much Ernie sucks

I go to the Celtics-Wizards game thread on their forum and they have a post where they say Ernie sucks

I know. It’s kind of like Elgin Baylor for all those years with the Clippers.

But Turd is delighted with his general works so....

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Of course he is -- why last year this team won 49 games. Do you realize that in the last quarter century or more no NBA team has ever won that many games in a single season?

Wait a minute... I mean no Washington Wizards or Bullets NBA team has ever won that many.

Plus we overcame tremendous handicaps to build a team capable of getting through R1 of the playoffs -- I mean in the last 8 years, we've only had the #1 pick via the ping pong balls one time, & we've only had the #3 pick via the ping pong balls one time.

& other than that we've only had 3 other lottery picks. Oh, & no more than 7 other R1 picks. & only 3 high R2 picks. & a mere 6 other R2 picks.

I mean what is that, like... 21 picks?

Yet, out of those meager resources, Ernie has nonetheless managed to acquire 7 players. What's even more amazing, if you leave out the #1 & the pair of #3 picks, plus the pick we traded for Marcin Gortat & the #2 we gave to get Kelly Oubre, it becomes even more impressive. Why, you can see that through unstinting effort, Ernie has managed to turn the rest of the picks -- only 16 of them! -- into Tim Frazier & Markieff Morris.

I mean... do you think just anybody can work that kind of magic? Is there any wonder that Ted beams with pride when he looks upon the achievements of Ernie Grunfeld?

Wait a minute... did I just leave out Chris McCullough? I did -- sorry Ernie to have slighted you. Because of my error, I won't even mention that at the end of the season when Frazier & McCullough are Free Agents, it will become 16 picks for Markieff Morris.

Well, really, it was only 1 lottery pick, 1 enormous over pay, for Kieff.

The other 15 picks brought us... nothing. That's right. Zilch, zip, zero.

[milellie111]

Grunfeld > Ainge

[BigA]

Leonsis > Bezos

[closg00]

The Golden State Warriors are considering a trade of JaVale McGee.

McGee has fallen out of the Warriors' rotation with the emergence of Jordan Bell. Bell gives the Warriors a more athletic presence at the position one situation call for it instead of Zaza Pachulia. McGee filled that role last season.

David West will remain as the center of the second unit.

The Milwaukee Bucks have held talks with the Warriors for McGee and Pachulia. Pachulia previously played for the Bucks but the Warriors will be reluctant to trade him.

McGee hasn't been happy with his minutes and re-signed with the Warriors on a minimum deal.

The Warriors also have Damian Jones and Kevon Looney at center as well as Draymond Green and Kevin Durant.

An embarrassment of riches, wouldn't you love it if we had the same problems with our Front Court? Bell, plucked deep in the draft while Ernie is always looking-through the NBA bargain basement of re-treads. At-least he finally hit on Scott.

[leswizards]

Grunfeld > Ainge

There is a hall of fame thread. This post merits a hall of shame thread. Posts that will forever more haunt you for having the stupidity to have posted.

[BigA]

Mahinmi > Horford

[BigA]

Foye+Miller > Curry

[verbal8]

Sitting at home > deep playoff run

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... Bell, plucked deep in the draft while Ernie is always looking-through the NBA bargain basement of re-treads. At-least he finally hit on Scott.

They aren't comparable, obviously. Mike Scott is a 1-year Wizard. His terrific shooting so far is a piece of luck. But, like Rasual Butler he'll be gone after a single season.

Jordan Bell is a guy who will be w/ GS for quite a while, & when they trade him he'll bring a lot of value.

Another comparison might be between Daniel Theis & Scott. Again, this is a case where a GM (Ainge) & his staff actually do the work to add a player who can be a part of their young core. Not a rent-a-player.

IOW, although we did beat Boston the other night, the idea that "Grunfeld > Ainge" is just the usual Millie trolling. I'd be hard put to name 4 NBA GMs worse than Ernie.

[BigA]

I'd be hard put to name 4 NBA GMs worse than Ernie.

The problem is, once a GM establishes that they are clearly or even arguably worse than EG, they are usually fired pretty quickly. There's lots of turnover among bad GMs.

See the linked list below. Phil Jackson and Rob Hennigan were probably worse than Ernie but they're already gone. Vlade Divac and Dell Demps are probably worse. A number of GMs on that list below Ernie are not clearly better or worse, but will be fired before he is.

NBA GM/President rankings March 2017

[Ruzious]

The Golden State Warriors are considering a trade of JaVale McGee.

McGee has fallen out of the Warriors' rotation with the emergence of Jordan Bell. Bell gives the Warriors a more athletic presence at the position one situation call for it instead of Zaza Pachulia. McGee filled that role last season.

David West will remain as the center of the second unit.

The Milwaukee Bucks have held talks with the Warriors for McGee and Pachulia. Pachulia previously played for the Bucks but the Warriors will be reluctant to trade him.

McGee hasn't been happy with his minutes and re-signed with the Warriors on a minimum deal.

The Warriors also have Damian Jones and Kevon Looney at center as well as Draymond Green and Kevin Durant.

An embarrassment of riches, wouldn't you love it if we had the same problems with our Front Court? Bell, plucked deep in the draft while Ernie is always looking-through the NBA bargain basement of re-treads. At-least he finally hit on Scott.

Crazy organizational depth. For next season, GSW kept their rights to Damian Jones but relinquished their rights to Looney. Looney's had some health issues, and I think he'll be dirt cheap as a free agent. If he's healthy, I'd love to see the Wiz go after him - he and Christian Wood should be prime cheap acquistion targets for the Wiz for multi-year contracts.

[Ruzious]

Mahinmi > Horford

I see what you're doing there.