Political Roundtable Part XI

[AFM]

The FBI and Russia are working together to take Hillary down!

[Ruzious]

Yeah, definitely want to keep the echo chamber pure...

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Yeah because every opposing view is implicitly valid right?

Some people put hands on their ignore list, with similarly disastrous results. I believe it was Einstein who said, "For every action there's an equally valid reaction." Words to that effect, anyway.

Put it this way my friend; If I don't ignore, there would be disastrous results. That's from the Ruzious theory of keeping whatever bit o sanity remains.

[tontoz]

The FBI and Russia are working together to take Hillary down!

Yeah I am sure her laziness and her "deplorables" comment had nothing to do with her loss.

[gtn130]

FBI backs CIA's assessment of Russia influencing the election.

All fake news tho, right nate?

[gtn130]

The FBI and Russia are working together to take Hillary down!

Yeah I am sure her laziness and her "deplorables" comment had nothing to do with her loss.

terrific straw man, but it is indeed possible for hillary to have been a mediocre candidate running a mediocre campaign and still have lost because of wikileaks and the fbi

[gtn130]

I don't know why people think you must be the most ardent Hillary supporter in order to believe Russia and the FBI had a massive impact on the election. Those things have nothing to do with each other.

[tontoz]

Yeah, definitely want to keep the echo chamber pure...

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Yeah because every opposing view is implicitly valid right?

I would think a computer programmer would know more about computer hacking than most of us.

[Wizardspride]

FBI backs CIA's assessment of Russia influencing the election.

All fake news tho, right nate?

Whatever.

Comey is a known liberal partisan.

[tontoz]

The FBI and Russia are working together to take Hillary down!

Yeah I am sure her laziness and her "deplorables" comment had nothing to do with her loss.

terrific straw man, but it is indeed possible for hillary to have been a mediocre candidate running a mediocre campaign and still have lost because of wikileaks and the fbi

Her own husband, a two time POTUS, was telling her she was blowing it long before the Wikileaks release. Let's not forget all the random women coming out of the woodwork at the last minute to accuse Trump, or the DNC inciting violence at Trump rallies.

@ blaming the FBI who refused to prosecute her for her blatant disregard of the rules and subsequent coverup. It isn't like the FBI was hiding the Weiner emails and then suddenly sprung them on her at the last minute.

[nate33]

I don't know why people think you must be the most ardent Hillary supporter in order to believe Russia and the FBI had a massive impact on the election. Those things have nothing to do with each other.

Why is it somehow illegitimate if the DNC gets hacked and reveals some dirt on the Clinton campaign, but it's not illegitimate for an 11-year-old private conversation between Trump and Billy Bush to get recorded and leaked to the media? That "hack" of Trump's privacy was certainly more costly to him than the DNC hack was to Clinton.

Also, the FBI has confirmed that an attempt was made to hack the RNC but it failed, which destroys the argument that Russia selectively leaked only damaging information to Democrats.

[Ruzious]

The FBI and Russia are working together to take Hillary down!

Yeah I am sure her laziness and her "deplorables" comment had nothing to do with her loss.

I was disappointed in her blaming game. I think her deplorables contest was the biggest single factor in her loss - and compare it to Romney's 47% comment. She didn't learn.

[AFM]

I've told this story before, but this reminds me of when I found out that my now ex girlfriend was having an affair. I found a Facebook message from this dude saying what a great time they had together at this ski resort in Canada. LOL.
When I confronted her, instead of being apologetic, she accused me of betraying her trust by reading her Facebook messages. LOL!


How dare you guys read our emails, showing what scum we are!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Jim Brown is obviously trying to become friendly with the POTUS to help him get things done. He knows that sometimes you have to work with people you don't like/don't agree with to accomplish your goals.

Trump met with him and listened to him and Brown appreciated that. He is just trying to make the best of the situation instead of sitting around throwing a pity party.

I have the feeling that Trump is very sincere in wanting to make the country better. He has made many overtures to meet with people of the African American community. I believe he is very much what-you-see-is-what-you-get.

My biggest concern is will he finish his term as president? People who really want to make change tend to come up against pretty dark forces..

I really don't want to see Mike Pence as president.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

As expected the schmucks are outraged.

Then again this could be a real disaster for president

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yeah, definitely want to keep the echo chamber pure...

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Yeah because every opposing view is implicitly valid right?

Some people put hands on their ignore list, with similarly disastrous results. I believe it was Einstein who said, "For every action there's an equally valid reaction." Words to that effect, anyway.

I think Isaac Newton said it first....I could be wrong. (Newton's third law IIRC)

Waiting ro be corrected ....

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[gtn130]

I don't know why people think you must be the most ardent Hillary supporter in order to believe Russia and the FBI had a massive impact on the election. Those things have nothing to do with each other.

Why is it somehow illegitimate if the DNC gets hacked and reveals some dirt on the Clinton campaign, but it's not illegitimate for an 11-year-old private conversation between Trump and Billy Bush to get recorded and leaked to the media? That "hack" of Trump's privacy was certainly more costly to him than the DNC hack was to Clinton.

Also, the FBI has confirmed that an attempt was made to hack the RNC but it failed, which destroys the argument that Russia selectively leaked only damaging information to Democrats.

I'm fairly certain leaking footage of Trump saying lewd things into a hot mic is not the same thing as a nation state stealing, leaking and sensationalizing private emails. And the Hollywood Insiders tape stands on its own merits. If there was a Clinton email leak that proved that Clinton is actually the leader of ISIS, then obviously nobody would be up in arms over Russian interference.

It's hilarious though how people think Wikileaks/Russia simply "posted information on the internet" as if this was just an exercise in sharing basic facts with everyone. Every single Wikileaks article included maximum fear-mongering, intentionally taking things out of context, wild exaggeration, and the use of COURIER FONT and HIGHLIGHTING STUFF CAUSE IT'S SUPER TOP SECRET. The objective was to have a constant stream of scandal surrounding Clinton, and the result was that anyone who was only casually following the election would safely conclude that Hillary does a lot of scandalous stuff because they heard about all those WIKILEAKS EMAILS.

[gtn130]

Yeah I am sure her laziness and her "deplorables" comment had nothing to do with her loss.

terrific straw man, but it is indeed possible for hillary to have been a mediocre candidate running a mediocre campaign and still have lost because of wikileaks and the fbi

Her own husband, a two time POTUS, was telling her she was blowing it long before the Wikileaks release. Let's not forget all the random women coming out of the woodwork at the last minute to accuse Trump, or the DNC inciting violence at Trump rallies.

@ blaming the FBI who refused to prosecute her for her blatant disregard of the rules and subsequent coverup. It isn't like the FBI was hiding the Weiner emails and then suddenly sprung them on her at the last minute.

These are some spicy memes, but you're not actually refuting the fact that Hillary would have won the election if not for intervention from Russia and the FBI (despite running a bad campaign and being an awful crooked evil scumbag!!!!!).

[montestewart]

I've told this story before, but this reminds me of when I found out that my now ex girlfriend was having an affair. I found a Facebook message from this dude saying what a great time they had together at this ski resort in Canada. LOL.
When I confronted her, instead of being apologetic, she accused me of betraying her trust by reading her Facebook messages. LOL!


How dare you guys read our emails, showing what scum we are!

I had a similar situation. First I thought ,"That ******* *****!" and then I thought, "Glad covered up my tracks!" Like this guy:

Watch on YouTube

[gtn130]

People seriously cannot separate these things for some reason:

1. Hillary is BAD and ran a BAD campaign and could have won if she ran a GOOD campaign and was GOOD.
2. Hillary still would have won if not for Russian/FBI interference

[nate33]

I don't know why people think you must be the most ardent Hillary supporter in order to believe Russia and the FBI had a massive impact on the election. Those things have nothing to do with each other.

Why is it somehow illegitimate if the DNC gets hacked and reveals some dirt on the Clinton campaign, but it's not illegitimate for an 11-year-old private conversation between Trump and Billy Bush to get recorded and leaked to the media? That "hack" of Trump's privacy was certainly more costly to him than the DNC hack was to Clinton.

Also, the FBI has confirmed that an attempt was made to hack the RNC but it failed, which destroys the argument that Russia selectively leaked only damaging information to Democrats.

I'm fairly certain leaking footage of Trump saying lewd things into a hot mic is not the same thing as a nation state stealing, leaking and sensationalizing private emails. And the Hollywood Insiders tape stands on its own merits. If there was a Clinton email leak that proved that Clinton is actually the leader of ISIS, then obviously nobody would be up in arms over Russian interference.

It's hilarious though how people think Wikileaks/Russia simply "posted information on the internet" as if this was just an exercise in sharing basic facts with everyone. Every single Wikileaks article included maximum fear-mongering, intentionally taking things out of context, wild exaggeration, and the use of COURIER FONT and HIGHLIGHTING STUFF CAUSE IT'S SUPER TOP SECRET. The objective was to have a constant stream of scandal surrounding Clinton, and the result was that anyone who was only casually following the election would safely conclude that Hillary does a lot of scandalous stuff because they heard about all those WIKILEAKS EMAILS.

If you want to discuss how we should protect our classified information and how to appropriately retaliate against Russia for their hacking, I'm fine with that.

What I don't get is this notion that the hacking delegitimizes the election. Negative information was "leaked" during the election cycle that hurt both parties. **** happens. The fact that the culprit of one particular leak happened to be the Russians (assuming the allegation is true) is irrelevant. The information itself was factual. And as I pointed out before, the Russians have only been alleged to be involved with the DNC emails, NOT the Podesta emails. The Podesta emails were the bad ones and they came much closer to Election Day.

Basically, you are arguing that the election is illegitimate because the voters had too much information.