The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread

[Higga]

At this rate, McGee will be playing in the All-Star game. Third among all Cs in PPG, RPG, and BPG. If Howard gets traded to the Lakers it's even more likely.

[pancakes3]

that got me thinking about how camby is on his 15th nba season yet has never played 80+ games even once. then it got me thinking how weird it is that it's 2012 and both marcus camby and kurt thomas are still playing - and on the same team no less.

[JonathanJoseph]

All star game? He'll be in the dunk contest where he belongs, but not in any sort of game chosen for basketball ability.

McGee has zero court awareness. He can make the hook shot, but it's freaking absurd to be taking 15 foot hook shots and thinking that's ok. McGee's defensive positioning is a huge problem and despite all the highlight reel plays he makes, no team will ever be able to win with McGee playing big minutes. The Magic were basically laughing at him tonight.

McGee's basketball IQ = Blatche's heart/head. Both are fools gold and ensure losing basketball. I sincerely hope that the Wizards do not pay whatever it will take to resign him. McGee still has tremendous trade value and can/should be packaged with Blatche for something of real value.

[dangermouse]

All star game? He'll be in the dunk contest where he belongs, but not in any sort of game chosen for basketball ability.

Good thing its just a popularity contest then

[verbal8]

At this rate, McGee will be playing in the All-Star game. Third among all Cs in PPG, RPG, and BPG. If Howard gets traded to the Lakers it's even more likely.

I think Monroe and Hibbert and possibly Chandler deserve to be in front of him. However if Howard gets dealt West, you can make a decent case for him making the All-Star team. He clearly has been the best player on the WIzards so far this season.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I started this thread almost 2 years ago. You would think I would be happy seeing Javale break through to become acknowledged as a good player, but this is bittersweet for me. verbal is right. Javale McGee has been the Wizards best player. That is bad news for the Wizards, because it is getting to the point we have to acknowledge that John Wall is not what we all had hoped when he went #1 overall to Washington.

Washington really needs Wall to regain his confidence and to reassert himself as the alpha male on this team. I would say at the end of the next 25-30 games, Wall needs to show something or the Wizards might want to be proactive and consider some trade ideas that return talent and 2012 first round pick(s). I doubt it comes to this, but I think by mid-season all options should be open just in case.

I really have liked McGee's game for a long time, but there's no way he should be playing the best ball on this team.

[Dat2U]

So CCJ, wait a minute. Your giving Wall 30 games to break out or else we should consider trading him?

Just out of curiosity, how many games would you give DeMarcus Cousins to do the same?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

So CCJ, wait a minute. Your giving Wall 30 games to break out or else we should consider trading him?

Just out of curiosity, how many games would you give DeMarcus Cousins to do the same?

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Cousins is a guy you give no benefit of a doubt to and who you ride him for what he brings, rebounds with attitude.

Wall is someone you consider trading only with great trepidation, fear and trembling. You are definitely trading away a freakishly talented human being who has the potential for greatness if you trade Wall. You're trading away basically a good kid, too. You're trading away a hard worker. I would look over the next 30 games at how he competes, how he defends, and how he communicates with his teammates.

Dat2U, generally teams never get over trading away superstars, but is Wall a superstar?

Someone posted the other day would you rather have Wall or Irving and Tristan Thompson. Irving is 19 years old with a PER of 21.1. His WS/48 is twice what Wall's has ever been. Thompson is 20 with a PER of 16.8 and he's 5th in block percentage. I know about his HS background of winning games and that he was the top HS player. Right now, he's looking like a Buck Williams-type player. If you asked me today if I would trade those two for Wall I would say yes. Might really regret it later, but I would say yes.

Now, before you turn this into me saying trade Wall in 30 games that is NOT what I said. I think they should consider it. If a team like Phoenix came to realize Steve Nash is done and they offered Nash, Markieff Morris, a 2012 pick and a 2014 pick for Wall and Blatche; I would take that. They may feel they ripped the Wizards off and they could be right.OTOH if the Wizards replaced Blatche with Morris, gained Nash even on his last legs, and got one more crack at Anthony Davis this draft why not? That pick could end up being Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. Would you exchange Wall for Davis or Gilchrist, if it helped the team get rid of Blatche at the same time?

I am just thinking out-of-the box. VERY likely you just keep Wall and hope for the best.

[dangermouse]

Its arguable that Wall and McGee have been about as good as one another so far.

It is just that Wall has regressed and is in a slump, whereas McGee is actually an improvement. That is where the confusion lies.

[Dat2U]

I don't think Wall has regressed. I think the entire team has taken a step back and Wall is forcing the issue and playing all out of sorts. His confidence has taken a hit too.

[montestewart]

At this rate, McGee will be playing in the All-Star game. Third among all Cs in PPG, RPG, and BPG. If Howard gets traded to the Lakers it's even more likely.

I think Monroe and Hibbert and possibly Chandler deserve to be in front of him. However if Howard gets dealt West, you can make a decent case for him making the All-Star team. He clearly has been the best player on the WIzards so far this season.

I just compared the four at BR and they all look pretty good this season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y4=2012

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I don't think Wall has regressed. I think the entire team has taken a step back and Wall is forcing the issue and playing all out of sorts. His confidence has taken a hit too.

Logic would say there is no way Wall got physically worse. He's probably lacking confidence and is perhaps overwhelmed at this point.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I don't think Wall has regressed. I think the entire team has taken a step back and Wall is forcing the issue and playing all out of sorts. His confidence has taken a hit too.

Logic would say there is no way Wall got physically worse. He's probably lacking confidence and is perhaps overwhelmed at this point.

Also, as very many have noted the veterans this season are not as steady and reliable shooters as the veterans last season. No Gil or Captain Kirk to lean on is hurting Wall. Nick not having a training camp and having spotty conditioning is hurting. The lack of preparation over the short training camp is hurting. I have to say I don't think Wall prepped well at all over his first NBA offseason--but he's not the only second-year player. Hate to use that excuse.

A lot of factors, including your point, Dat, about the rest of the team taking a step back are affecting Wall.

I believe there's too much too soon on Wall's plate. That and Flip needs to go.

[Zonkerbl]

Guard play is really killing us. Wall and N1 have sucked the last few games. N1 in particular needs to get his crap together.

[Zonkerbl]

Let me add that McGee's "take a hook shot if they give you room, step through and dunk it if they don't" looks like money to me. All you need is one go-to move and it looks like he's found it.

[JonathanJoseph]

Let me add that McGee's "take a hook shot if they give you room, step through and dunk it if they don't" looks like money to me. All you need is one go-to move and it looks like he's found it.

it looks like money to you but basketball coaches see that and shake their heads with shame or laugh.

Wow is this stuff fools gold.

[Zonkerbl]

Basketball coaches look at a sweeping hook shot and say "I wish today's player would take that shot more often because it can't be blocked."

[montestewart]

Basketball coaches look at a sweeping hook shot and say "I wish today's player would take that shot more often because it can't be blocked."

when I was young enough to play, I developed a hook shot because I was so short and slow it frequently was the only way I could get a shot off. I appreciate a good hook shot and have no problem with McGee developing it, but some of his attempts so far tell me he needs to work on it a bit. If he fine tunes it, he really could put himself in the top tier.

[Zonkerbl]

I think today's player looks at that shot and says "that's a short white guy's shot. I'm going to practice my finger roll."

[montestewart]

I think today's player looks at that shot and says "that's a short white guy's shot. I'm going to practice my finger roll."

They need to watch tapes of KAJ scoring over Wilt, etc. His hook looked a little better than mine.