Official Trade Thread - Part XXXII

[NatP4]

Those guys who consider Lou Williams trade are clearly never saw his game. Typicall ball hog who can't defend. U really wanna lose your 1st round pick for this trash?!? Incredible

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Fingers crossed Ernie has something better in mind. Lou could help us, but we can do better

[NatP4]

lol Lakers doesn't have to do anything, they're losing with or without Williams. Lakers will hang up the phone laughing at this offer. Telling them to add their early second is hilarious. Do you really expect them to accept a bad contract and a future late first?

Williams is on a dirt cheap contract. They can easily get a late 1st.

Who do you think is giving up a 1st for Lou?

Bulls, Jazz and Rockets definitely would imo.

You think the lakers would trade him in conference and you think those teams go full win now in a conference with GSW? And the bulls are attempting a firesale it looks like.

I see the wizards and rockets as the only teams that potentially would trade a 1st rounder, and I think both teams hesitate to do so in a strong draft year. And yes, you guys need to get worse.

[deneem4]

Those guys who consider Lou Williams trade are clearly never saw his game. Typicall ball hog who can't defend. U really wanna lose your 1st round pick for this trash?!? Incredible

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Fingers crossed Ernie has something better in mind. Lou could help us, but we can do better

We don't need him to defend we jus need him to score...
Hide him on defense...he's not as bad as a defender as isaiah thomas...and that's guy and mvp candidate....

We don't need Lou to replace wall or beal...
We jus need a go to scorer off the bench Sato oubre Smith and Mahinmi can play defense while Lou literally tries to replicate it

[stevemcqueen1]

Who do you think is giving up a 1st for Lou?

A bad GM. They're out there.

Trading a first round pick for a year and a half of a tiny 30 year old bench guard putting up career numbers chucking on an awful team, who also has a history of sucking in the playoffs is the basketball equivalent of trading a second round pick for a 32 year old Jason Taylor. It's the Vinny Cerrato move. I am praying Ernie doesn't do it but I don't trust him.

[nuposse04]

Those guys who consider Lou Williams trade are clearly never saw his game. Typicall ball hog who can't defend. U really wanna lose your 1st round pick for this trash?!? Incredible

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Fingers crossed Ernie has something better in mind. Lou could help us, but we can do better

This is where you are playin yourself.

It is more likely we give up Nicholson+1st for like...Rodney Stuckey. Citing vet leadership, proven, and playoff tested.

Horrible we are even in this predicament.


I'm not sure if Dallas would do it but I'd consider:

Ian+Burke+18 1st for Deron and Bogut.

or Nicholson+'18 1st for Deron.

[deneem4]

I'll trade a 1st for lou only if we can get nick young too...

[NatP4]

One thing I've learned about Ernie is, the deal that seems obvious that everyone is talking about, is never the one he does, there's always some outside the box move that he pulls off at deadlines.

A lot of people expected Ryan Anderson at the deadline last year, and we ended up with Keef. A lot of people were saying jarret jack the year before, we ended up with Ramon sessions.

My prediction is still: he will make a trade that none of us even thought about, for better or worse

[nuposse04]

One thing I've learned about Ernie is, the deal that seems obvious that everyone is talking about, is never the one he does, there's always some outside the box move that he pulls off at deadlines.

A lot of people expected Ryan Anderson at the deadline last year, and we ended up with Keef. A lot of people were saying jarret jack the year before, we ended up with Ramon sessions.

My prediction is still: he will make a trade that none of us even thought about, for better or worse

I have no doubt he will make a trade, it is what he will give up that gives me anxst. I'm still pissed at him for putting us in this position. Quite frankly, nearly anyone can be an upgrade over the status quot, so he is going to get "credit" either way... probably the most irritating part about. Continual mortgage of assets.

Simply signing another D-Leaguer over Burke could suffice as a possible upgrade.

[stevemcqueen1]

I'll trade a 1st for lou only if we can get nick young too...

What? I'd trade a first to make sure Nick Young was never a Wizard again.

WTF is going on in this thread? Interest in Nick Young and Jordan Crawford? What's next, dig Blatche back up out of China? Trade a future first for JaVale McGee?

I can't be the only one who remembers how utterly awful it was to watch those clowns play basketball. It was only a few years ago.

I can't wait until this deadline is over.

[gambitx777]

lol Lakers doesn't have to do anything, they're losing with or without Williams. Lakers will hang up the phone laughing at this offer. Telling them to add their early second is hilarious. Do you really expect them to accept a bad contract and a future late first?

Williams is on a dirt cheap contract. They can easily get a late 1st.

Sorry but you don't have any leverage. Lakers have history of not trading good players for draft picks. Pau & others. We just let them walk instead of taking crappy deals.

Let alone take below average or worse contracts

I thought we settled this yesterday,
NO ONE CARES WHAT THE LAKERS WANT!
They are they ones shopping Lou williams, Look it up!
It is a buyers market, no one is calling asking about Lou the Lakers were shopping him, No they don't have to move him and they don't have to take a deal they don't like. But, adversely enough no one has to overpay for a soon to be 31 year old undersized poor defencive chuck shooter, padding the box score on a bad lakers team. He is worth a future protected first. In this market, No one is giving them Kelley, no one is giving them a 2017 first. Unless they dump a contract they don't want. that gets you a better asset than what Lou is worth. That's how this works, You don't just get what you want for two over 30 chuck shooting players (nick and Lou) because you overpaid two guys who can barley get playing time (Dang and that one center dude whos name I can't bother too look up) on your team because they are either too over the hill or a bad player. We can say take Nicholson or leave it because we are buyers in a buyer's market and you are trying to sell a guard to get what you can out of him before he either A starts sucking again B get hurt or C walks away in a year and a half and you get nothing for him at all. So if the lakers don't want what we offer, hang up the phone and call else where, cuz im really getting sick of explaining this to you lakers guys, on our board!

[gambitx777]

One thing I've learned about Ernie is, the deal that seems obvious that everyone is talking about, is never the one he does, there's always some outside the box move that he pulls off at deadlines.

A lot of people expected Ryan Anderson at the deadline last year, and we ended up with Keef. A lot of people were saying jarret jack the year before, we ended up with Ramon sessions.

My prediction is still: he will make a trade that none of us even thought about, for better or worse

I have no doubt he will make a trade, it is what he will give up that gives me anxst. I'm still pissed at him for putting us in this position. Quite frankly, nearly anyone can be an upgrade over the status quot, so he is going to get "credit" either way... probably the most irritating part about. Continual mortgage of assets.

Simply signing another D-Leaguer over Burke could suffice as a possible upgrade.

As one writer said, EG is not a magician. He is an escape artist. He has an uncanny ability to get him self out of the stupid meses he get's himself into and somehow looks good getting out of them.

[NatP4]

One thing I've learned about Ernie is, the deal that seems obvious that everyone is talking about, is never the one he does, there's always some outside the box move that he pulls off at deadlines.

A lot of people expected Ryan Anderson at the deadline last year, and we ended up with Keef. A lot of people were saying jarret jack the year before, we ended up with Ramon sessions.

My prediction is still: he will make a trade that none of us even thought about, for better or worse

I have no doubt he will make a trade, it is what he will give up that gives me anxst. I'm still pissed at him for putting us in this position. Quite frankly, nearly anyone can be an upgrade over the status quot, so he is going to get "credit" either way... probably the most irritating part about. Continual mortgage of assets.

Simply signing another D-Leaguer over Burke could suffice as a possible upgrade.

As one writer said, EG is not a magician. He is an escape artist. He has an uncanny ability to get him self out of the stupid meses he get's himself into and somehow looks good getting out of them.

Yeah or we could just say Ernie is better at making trades than signing free agents and skip the quoting bullets forever part.

[Kanyewest]

Lou Williams is playing out of his mind. Still, I would hesitate against giving up a significant asset for Lou Williams because of how much he's struggled in the postseason. I know there aren't a lot of games to go off of, but he struggled in this spot immensely most notably with the 76ers and Raptors.

[No-Man]

the thing is the type of player you need, a PG locked for a couple years that is okay with coming off the bench and can be obtained it's just not in the market, you need Cory Joseph kind of.

DJ Augustin is the only one that comes close to that I think.

[dckingsfan]

lol Lakers doesn't have to do anything, they're losing with or without Williams. Lakers will hang up the phone laughing at this offer. Telling them to add their early second is hilarious. Do you really expect them to accept a bad contract and a future late first?

Williams is on a dirt cheap contract. They can easily get a late 1st.

Sorry but you don't have any leverage. Lakers have history of not trading good players for draft picks. Pau & others. We just let them walk instead of taking crappy deals.

Let alone take below average or worse contracts

I thought we settled this yesterday,
NO ONE CARES WHAT THE LAKERS WANT!
They are they ones shopping Lou williams, Look it up!
It is a buyers market, no one is calling asking about Lou the Lakers were shopping him, No they don't have to move him and they don't have to take a deal they don't like. But, adversely enough no one has to overpay for a soon to be 31 year old undersized poor defencive chuck shooter, padding the box score on a bad lakers team. He is worth a future protected first. In this market, No one is giving them Kelley, no one is giving them a 2017 first. Unless they dump a contract they don't want. that gets you a better asset than what Lou is worth. That's how this works, You don't just get what you want for two over 30 chuck shooting players (nick and Lou) because you overpaid two guys who can barley get playing time (Dang and that one center dude whos name I can't bother too look up) on your team because they are either too over the hill or a bad player. We can say take Nicholson or leave it because we are buyers in a buyer's market and you are trying to sell a guard to get what you can out of him before he either A starts sucking again B get hurt or C walks away in a year and a half and you get nothing for him at all. So if the lakers don't want what we offer, hang up the phone and call else where, cuz im really getting sick of explaining this to you lakers guys, on our board!

That is a trade that isn't going to happen. Nicholson and a 2018 first for Lou and the #33 (second rounder) won't be accepted by the Lakers and we are certainly not offering more. We are winning and you don't break up your core.

So, as with 99% percent of the trades that are proposed - this one won't happen.

And yes to DJ Augustin over Lou Williams!

[Kanyewest]

Sorry but you don't have any leverage. Lakers have history of not trading good players for draft picks. Pau & others. We just let them walk instead of taking crappy deals.

Let alone take below average or worse contracts

While this is true, it may not be an optimal strategy. For example, had the Lakers decided to trade Pau Gasol, the Lakers would have increased their chances for a top 3 pick in a draft that had Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid plus acquired another asset. I agree it is kind of pointless to take on a contract that is worse than Lou Williams without being compensated for assets.

[WarriorsLakers]

NO ONE CARES WHAT THE LAKERS WANT!
They are they ones shopping Lou williams, Look it up!
It is a buyers market, no one is calling asking about Lou the Lakers were shopping him, No they don't have to move him and they don't have to take a deal they don't like. But, adversely enough no one has to overpay for a soon to be 31 year old undersized poor defencive chuck shooter, padding the box score on a bad lakers team. He is worth a future protected first. In this market, No one is giving them Kelley, no one is giving them a 2017 first. Unless they dump a contract they don't want. that gets you a better asset than what Lou is worth. That's how this works, You don't just get what you want for two over 30 chuck shooting players (nick and Lou) because you overpaid two guys who can barley get playing time (Dang and that one center dude whos name I can't bother too look up) on your team because they are either too over the hill or a bad player. We can say take Nicholson or leave it because we are buyers in a buyer's market and you are trying to sell a guard to get what you can out of him before he either A starts sucking again B get hurt or C walks away in a year and a half and you get nothing for him at all. So if the lakers don't want what we offer, hang up the phone and call else where, cuz im really getting sick of explaining this to you lakers guys, on our board!

too bad you don't know how the trade works. A trade is something that both teams need to agree upon.

other then crap Alex Kennedy, i again ask you to please post a link.

the notion of lakers need to trade him is false. its also false that they need to trade him to secure a top 3 pick.

Also on a side note, take it easy a little bit.

[gambitx777]

You know who I would call about, Buddy heild and terrence jones, both have been bench level guys this year but both would be better than burke or making jason smith play the 4 all the time. Jones would be cheap to keep and Buddy is on a rookie deal. the pels don't see to be in love with him and might take Smith and a 2018 first and 2017 second for heild and jones. Obviously you would move burke and nicholson next if you can to like the nets for scola or the mavs or maybe even the bucks for delly and hencson for mahinmi deal i keep thinking about. we would not be too bad off cap wise next year but that would help out bench out a lot! I would still like to move mahinmi but any mahinmi deal is going to come out of nowhere and be really complicated. But if we do all that then we still need to move nicholson maybe the nets can be talked into nicholson and burke for scola to get to the cap floor. idk

[WarriorsLakers]

Sorry but you don't have any leverage. Lakers have history of not trading good players for draft picks. Pau & others. We just let them walk instead of taking crappy deals.

Let alone take below average or worse contracts

While this is true, it may not be an optimal strategy. For example, had the Lakers decided to trade Pau Gasol, the Lakers would have increased their chances for a top 3 pick in a draft that had Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid plus acquired another asset. I agree it is kind of pointless to take on a contract that is worse than Lou Williams without being compensated for assets.

thats the problem with the lakers FO and ownership. they don't believe in tanking as they think its bad karma. They also don't believe in trading their players for future picks. hence they didn't trade Pau for future 2nd rd pick.

[gambitx777]

NO ONE CARES WHAT THE LAKERS WANT!
They are they ones shopping Lou williams, Look it up!
It is a buyers market, no one is calling asking about Lou the Lakers were shopping him, No they don't have to move him and they don't have to take a deal they don't like. But, adversely enough no one has to overpay for a soon to be 31 year old undersized poor defencive chuck shooter, padding the box score on a bad lakers team. He is worth a future protected first. In this market, No one is giving them Kelley, no one is giving them a 2017 first. Unless they dump a contract they don't want. that gets you a better asset than what Lou is worth. That's how this works, You don't just get what you want for two over 30 chuck shooting players (nick and Lou) because you overpaid two guys who can barley get playing time (Dang and that one center dude whos name I can't bother too look up) on your team because they are either too over the hill or a bad player. We can say take Nicholson or leave it because we are buyers in a buyer's market and you are trying to sell a guard to get what you can out of him before he either A starts sucking again B get hurt or C walks away in a year and a half and you get nothing for him at all. So if the lakers don't want what we offer, hang up the phone and call else where, cuz im really getting sick of explaining this to you lakers guys, on our board!

too bad you don't know how the trade works. A trade is something that both teams need to agree upon.

other then crap Alex Kennedy, i again ask you to please post a link.

the notion of lakers need to trade him is false. its also false that they need to trade him to secure a top 3 pick.

Also on a side note, take it easy a little bit.

I'd take it easy if you just gave it a rest already about how the lakers don't want the deal or how valuable Lou williams is, you don't debate the points you just keep saying the same two things. Saying that doesn't count when talking about Alex kennedy is like you saying smoking's bad for you, and me saying give me other evidence other than the 40 years of medical research, you have nothing ok I win. exactly, a trade is something that both teams need to agree on and no team is going to agree with you on how much lou is worth. So again, lets just let it go cuz its getting kind of old man.