Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8

[Tyrone Messby]

Trailblazers Yang nicknamed the Big Tariff is the best thing I’ve heard all year.

[Tyrone Messby]

Also I’m not sure if there is a bigger prick in NBA front offices than Danny Ainge.

[Tyrone Messby]

Its so funny how much of a mess Beal has been for the Suns!

Well beal is an issue but he's not the reason the suns front office couldn't do math lol .

If he gets bought out I can see him contributing to a team somewhere but I can't see him making up 14 million somewhere.

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That bum hasn’t played more than 60 games in a season since 2019. He’s only played 47 more games than Kawhi in that stretch.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Why did Indiana give up its starting center after just making the finals and pushing the thunder to 7 games? They calling it a wrap on this group?

Do they have a backup plan at C now, and how badly do they want Kelly O??? Reasonable rates, will take back anything, tbh.

I remain convinced that the minute Tatum went down, Silver resolved to have the Celtics win the lottery next year. This is going to bother me until next year's lottery at least, and then probably all the way through to the draft.

Any rumblings out of Utah and Ace Bailey's situation? Now that he's settling in and realizing that Utah is his home address, is that helping or making it worse?

The Pacers signed Jay Huff, who I think will exceed expectations.

I just watched highlights of Ace Bailey on NBATV. All I can say is, "Wow!"

Nepo Ainge won't regret drafting young Aurelius.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

He averaged 17 mpg over 3 games in the Olympics with international rules averaging as many fouls as rebounds and as many turnovers as assists. I'm not sure how you can argue that proves anything.

As doe Philly having the 2nd best offseason, sure. But Yabusele is a drop in the bucket there. Their offseason included re-signing Maxey, Lowry and Oubre, signing George, Gordon, Martin, Drummond and Jackson, and having Jared McCain fall into their laps in the draft. NBA GMs liking their offseason has a lot more to do with that stuff than signing Yabusele for the minimum. You can tell NBA GMs liked the other stuff more because lots of them would have paid more than the minimum for most of those other guys but none of them were willing to pay more than the minimum for Yabusele. Yabusele wasn't even a tip 3 Sixers offseason move let alone one of the best offseason moves in the league.

We're about to find out

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This is how I plan to troll the Derik Queen naysayers. Two come immediately to mind.

[I_Like_Dirt]

We're about to find out

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This is how I plan to troll the Derik Queen naysayers. Two come immediately to mind.

I'm still confused by all this. Since when is becoming a Kn*ck proof of anything?

You can add me into the Queen naysayers. I like the kid and would be happy to be wrong but I just don't see it with him. I don't think it's likely he manages to the needed conditioning/mobility levels without breaking down. He might have an okay career but I don't see a star and he's on a knifes edge like Jared Sullinger was once upon a time.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The loop is closed.

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This is how I plan to troll the Derik Queen naysayers. Two come immediately to mind.

I'm still confused by all this. Since when is becoming a Kn*ck proof of anything?

You can add me into the Queen naysayers. I like the kid and would be happy to be wrong but I just don't see it with him. I don't think it's likely he manages to the needed conditioning/mobility levels without breaking down. He might have an okay career but I don't see a star and he's on a knifes edge like Jared Sullinger was once upon a time.

The timeline began following his strong Olympic play.

Two or more of us said Yabusele can help some NBA teams, but we were strongly rebuked. Naysayers reminded of his previous stint in the NBA where Guerschon didn't stick. I didn't care about then. I knew what I saw in the now. So did Philadelphia who gave him a look with Embiid out. He played there and balled out which led to this:

THE KNICKS SIGNED HIM FOR 2 YEARS, $12 MILLION.

His successful second chance with Philadelphia paid off. The Knicks have a legitimate shot to advance to the Finals. Yabusele can be a Portis or a Gafford or an analogous to his own body type build of player who will have a role on a good team.

Those people who doubted me when I said Yabusele belonged in the NBA were WRONG.

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

[nate33]

Ayton is a loser and want no part of him around our young core. We value hustle, physicality, and BBIQ... Ayton is the antithesis of all of those

Exactly.

We want guys like Olynyk, who know how to play but are not too old and too slow to actually be effective defensively. Those guys can still effectively teach technique, but they won't accidentally win us too many games.I agree that Olynyk is a much better player for this Wizards roster.

This didn't age well.

To quote Conor McGregor, "Who the fook is that guy?"

They one-upped me. Rather than a guy like Olynyk who knows how to play the center position but no longer has the physical ability to do so effectively, they just decided to have nobody at all play the center position to truly guarantee the tank.

[dckingsfan]

Exactly.

We want guys like Olynyk, who know how to play but are not too old and too slow to actually be effective defensively. Those guys can still effectively teach technique, but they won't accidentally win us too many games.I agree that Olynyk is a much better player for this Wizards roster.

This didn't age well.

To quote Conor McGregor, "Who the fook is that guy?"

They one-upped me. Rather than a guy like Olynyk who knows how to play the center position but no longer has the physical ability to do so effectively, they just decided to have nobody at all play the center position to truly guarantee the tank.

Last year (at the end of the year when Jonas had been moved) we had Holmes on the squad and he played 534 minutes despite being the best C on the team (at that time)

Tanking 101 baby!!!

[I_Like_Dirt]

The timeline began following his strong Olympic play.

Two or more of us said Yabusele can help some NBA teams, but we were strongly rebuked. Naysayers reminded of his previous stint in the NBA where Guerschon didn't stick. I didn't care about then. I knew what I saw in the now. So did Philadelphia who gave him a look with Embiid out. He played there and balled out which led to this:

THE KNICKS SIGNED HIM FOR 2 YEARS, $12 MILLION.

His successful second chance with Philadelphia paid off. The Knicks have a legitimate shot to advance to the Finals. Yabusele can be a Portis or a Gafford or an analogous to his own body type build of player who will have a role on a good team.

Those people who doubted me when I said Yabusele belonged in the NBA were WRONG.

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

I started in (and that quote chain brings it up) when it was made out to be Yabusele as a top 3 offseason signing in the league. Even with Paul George tanking hard and becoming an awful contract in the process I'm not sure how Yabusele surpasses George, McCain or Maxey for a top 3 signing of the Sixers last season. I enjoy seeing players succeed so I'm glad he got paid this season though I'd point out he got less than half of the non-taxpayer MLE and the increased cap skews perception here a bit.

As for Queen, I hope you're right. The issue is that it isn't bball IQ that doomed those other guys either, it was conditioning and mobility which are really tough on physically on guys with proportions like his. And the modern NBA is basically built to push guys like that ojt of the league with an increased emphasis on conditioning and pushing the ball on both ends. Queen might succeed - I hope he does - but the odds are long with him. Sadly, the road to the NBA is littered with good kids with extreme skills who just didn't quite have enough. Frankly, that statement is truer now more than ever as the game continues to increase in popularity.

[AFM]

Queen going to NO is just brutal for him. Maybe the worst franchise he could have gone to. I hope he doesn't end up like Zion.

[9 and 20]

Queen going to NO is just brutal for him. Maybe the worst franchise he could have gone to. I hope he doesn't end up like Zion.

Agree with this! Also, we need to make some more trades with the Pelicans with Dumars there. Do they want to dump Dejounte Murray? Do they need a good mentor for Queen, like Middleton or Smart? I smell a potential deal there.

[AFM]

This is how I plan to troll the Derik Queen naysayers. Two come immediately to mind.

I'm still confused by all this. Since when is becoming a Kn*ck proof of anything?

You can add me into the Queen naysayers. I like the kid and would be happy to be wrong but I just don't see it with him. I don't think it's likely he manages to the needed conditioning/mobility levels without breaking down. He might have an okay career but I don't see a star and he's on a knifes edge like Jared Sullinger was once upon a time.

The timeline began following his strong Olympic play.

Two or more of us said Yabusele can help some NBA teams, but we were strongly rebuked. Naysayers reminded of his previous stint in the NBA where Guerschon didn't stick. I didn't care about then. I knew what I saw in the now. So did Philadelphia who gave him a look with Embiid out. He played there and balled out which led to this:

THE KNICKS SIGNED HIM FOR 2 YEARS, $12 MILLION.

His successful second chance with Philadelphia paid off. The Knicks have a legitimate shot to advance to the Finals. Yabusele can be a Portis or a Gafford or an analogous to his own body type build of player who will have a role on a good team.

Those people who doubted me when I said Yabusele belonged in the NBA were WRONG.

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

We’ll get to see Queen tonight. NO plays at 9 PM EST.

[FAH1223]

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[AFM]

I think I'm way lower on Holmgren than most.

[doclinkin]

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

We’ll get to see Queen tonight. NO plays at 9 PM EST.

Here’s the fun thing about this front office. If you like a guy, there’s a solid chance they end up getting him later on after he’s struggled a bit on another team.

[AFM]

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

We’ll get to see Queen tonight. NO plays at 9 PM EST.

Here’s the fun thing about this front office. If you like a guy, there’s a solid chance they end up getting him later on after he’s struggled a bit on another team.

It's possible, but seeing how much NO gave up (next year's lottery pick) to get him, they might value him way too much to give up on him easily.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The timeline began following his strong Olympic play.

Two or more of us said Yabusele can help some NBA teams, but we were strongly rebuked. Naysayers reminded of his previous stint in the NBA where Guerschon didn't stick. I didn't care about then. I knew what I saw in the now. So did Philadelphia who gave him a look with Embiid out. He played there and balled out which led to this:

THE KNICKS SIGNED HIM FOR 2 YEARS, $12 MILLION.

His successful second chance with Philadelphia paid off. The Knicks have a legitimate shot to advance to the Finals. Yabusele can be a Portis or a Gafford or an analogous to his own body type build of player who will have a role on a good team.

Those people who doubted me when I said Yabusele belonged in the NBA were WRONG.

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

I started in (and that quote chain brings it up) when it was made out to be Yabusele as a top 3 offseason signing in the league. Even with Paul George tanking hard and becoming an awful contrac
t in the process I'm not sure how Yabusele surpasses George, McCain or Maxey for a top 3 signing of the Sixers last season. I enjoy seeing players succeed so I'm glad he got paid this season though I'd point out he got less than half of the non-taxpayer MLE and the increased cap skews perception here a bit.

As for Queen, I hope you're right. The issue is that it isn't bball IQ that doomed those other guys either, it was conditioning and mobility which are really tough on physically on guys with proportions like his. And the modern NBA is basically built to push guys like that ojt of the league with an increased emphasis on conditioning and pushing the ball on both ends. Queen might succeed - I hope he does - but the odds are long with him. Sadly, the road to the NBA is littered with good kids with extreme skills who just didn't quite have enough. Frankly, that statement is truer now more than ever as the game continues to increase in popularity.

What's a reasonable expectation for a 13th pick?

2025 Draft picks #11-15
Coward
Essengue
Queen
Bryant
Sorber

2024 Draft picks #11-15
Buzelis
Topic
Devin Carter
Carrington
Kel'el Ware (#16 Jared McCain)

2023 Draft picks #11-15
Jett Howard
Lively
Dick
Hawkins
Bufkin

2022 Draft picks #11-15
Dieng
JALEN WILLIIAMS
Duren
Agbaji
Mark Williams (#31Andrew Nemhard) (#34Jaylin Williams)

2021 Draft picks #11-15
Bouknight
Primo
Duarte
Moody
Kispert (#16Alperen Sengun)

2020 Draft picks #11-15
Vassell (#9Advija) (#10Jalen Smith)
HALIBURTON
Kira Lewis
Aaron Nesmith
Cole Anthony (#21Tyrese Maxey)
(#26 Pritchard) (#30 Bane) (#19Saddiq Bey)
(#20Achiuwa)(#42Nick Richards)


We will know within 3 years what kind of pick Derik Queen is.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'm still confused by all this. Since when is becoming a Kn*ck proof of anything?

You can add me into the Queen naysayers. I like the kid and would be happy to be wrong but I just don't see it with him. I don't think it's likely he manages to the needed conditioning/mobility levels without breaking down. He might have an okay career but I don't see a star and he's on a knifes edge like Jared Sullinger was once upon a time.

The timeline began following his strong Olympic play.

Two or more of us said Yabusele can help some NBA teams, but we were strongly rebuked. Naysayers reminded of his previous stint in the NBA where Guerschon didn't stick. I didn't care about then. I knew what I saw in the now. So did Philadelphia who gave him a look with Embiid out. He played there and balled out which led to this:

THE KNICKS SIGNED HIM FOR 2 YEARS, $12 MILLION.

His successful second chance with Philadelphia paid off. The Knicks have a legitimate shot to advance to the Finals. Yabusele can be a Portis or a Gafford or an analogous to his own body type build of player who will have a role on a good team.

Those people who doubted me when I said Yabusele belonged in the NBA were WRONG.

Do I think I know everything? No. I expected Sullinger and Michael Sweetney before or after him to succeed. Neither they nor Caleb Swanigan diid. Those body types do tend to fail. However, I believe Queen is better than those players from a basketball IQ standpoint. Derik has better handles than each of them. He's a good passer. Queen will be playing with a shotblocking C who is very underrated, MIssi. Zion Williamson is going to make Queen's job easier on offense.

Not only will Queen make it, he will make All Rookie. I expect he will be one of the top-7 rookies.

We’ll get to see Queen tonight. NO plays at 9 PM EST.

Maryland's Derik Queen signs endorsement deal with Dairy Queen

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/marylands-derik-queen-signs-endorsement-070000566.html

Dairy Queen, which is owned by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, has more than 4,000 U.S. stores. There are 24 stores in Maryland, according to the company’s website.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Derik Queen: Double-double in SL debut

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/pelicans-derik-queen-double-double-in-sl-debut/

Queen totaled 13 points (5-9 FG, 1-1 3Pt, 2-4 FT), 10 rebounds and three assists across 27 minutes in Thursday's 98-91 Summer League loss to the Timberwolves.

Queen showcased his interior skills in his Summer League debut, posting a double-double