John Wall Appreciation Thread - Part III

[youngWizzy]

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[cammac]

Wrong forum sorry

[CobraCommander]

Wrong forum sorry

Lol funniest stuff ever

[80sballboy]

According to Sato, sounds like he's still having a swelling issue. I wonder if he'll even be available in the regular season. If he is, they better bring him off the bench.

[FAH1223]

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Ughhhh

And true

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[Wizardspride]

Not surprised about the swelling.

It could be trouble or just the result of "pushing" that knee.

Hopefully, it's the latter.

[CobraCommander]

Not surprised about the swelling.

It could be trouble or just the result of "pushing" that knee.

Hopefully, it's the latter.

Yeah this is non-news...

Every doctor will tell you you will have swelling on your knees, elbows, shoulders and any other body part that flexes or bends.... he is as likely to be 100% in a few months as he is to never be 100% ever again as a result of this surgery. I’m not a doctor (but Not saying I’m sitting next to a doctor-but i am) and the swelling should be expected post a workout. Little known fact...we swell up after every workout...just how much?

[dlts20]

They said that Wall will start 5 on 5 at the end of this week but I'm a little worried. He's not going to have many games before the playoffs and I think we need that timing. Looking at our schedule we also play every other day for pretty much the rest of the season so when is be going to get time to practice unless it's against coaches/trainers. Our guys can't play a game, practice 5 on 5 hard the next day and then another game. Just trying to figure out how they will fit it all in

[Dark Faze]

Swelling? Wtf. If that's the case they need to leave him out for the entirety of the regular and post season

[BigA]

WizD dropping.those pearls of wisdom!

A rare in-season WizD sighting.

[Wizardspride]

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[nate33]

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I bet he is. It must be hard to listen to so many people point out how well the Wizards played without him and question how good Wall really is. I expect John to be highly motivated to prove himself. I just hope his metric for proving himself is team wins and not individual stats. I don't want him coming back to score 25 points a night on a TS% of 51%. That doesn't help.

[DCZards]

The Zards are 4-5 in March, with 3 of those wins coming over a decimated Boston team, the Pacers without Myles Turner and Sabonis, and the Pelicans without Cousins and Anthony Davis. The fourth win was an OT nail biter at home against Miami.

Hurry back John Wall. We miss (and appreciate) you!

[Wizardspride]

I had read John lost some weight....and it's noticeable.

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[Shanghai Kid]

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I bet he is. It must be hard to listen to so many people point out how well the Wizards played without him and question how good Wall really is. I expect John to be highly motivated to prove himself. I just hope his metric for proving himself is team wins and not individual stats. I don't want him coming back to score 25 points a night on a TS% of 51%. That doesn't help.

It probably was hard, but probably easy now that the Wiz have been playing .500 or even slightly below .500 ball over the last 12 without him.

The wiz fell back down to earth, and the narrative has switched back to "man they could really use Wall."

I think John has probably learned a lot though from watching Sato.

[nate33]

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I bet he is. It must be hard to listen to so many people point out how well the Wizards played without him and question how good Wall really is. I expect John to be highly motivated to prove himself. I just hope his metric for proving himself is team wins and not individual stats. I don't want him coming back to score 25 points a night on a TS% of 51%. That doesn't help.

It probably was hard, but probably easy now that the Wiz have been playing .500 or even slightly below .500 ball over the last 12 without him.

The wiz fell back down to earth, and the narrative has switched back to "man they could really use Wall."

I think John has probably learned a lot though from watching Sato.

If that's the narrative, the narrative is wrong. People aren't appreciating the incredibly easy schedule that Wall faced, and the significantly harder schedule that Sato has faced.

With Wall at the helm, the team should have gone 26-11 going by the SRS ranking system and factoring a +3 advantage for home court. They actually went 21-16. They were 5 games below expectations. With Sato at the helm, they should have gone 12-11. They actually went 14-9. They were 2 games better than expected.

Even in this past month, the Wizards should have gone 5-4 and only went 4-5. That's not some kind of serious slump. It's one game below expectations (and about the same level of disappointment as with Wall).

[CobraCommander]

I bet he is. It must be hard to listen to so many people point out how well the Wizards played without him and question how good Wall really is. I expect John to be highly motivated to prove himself. I just hope his metric for proving himself is team wins and not individual stats. I don't want him coming back to score 25 points a night on a TS% of 51%. That doesn't help.

It probably was hard, but probably easy now that the Wiz have been playing .500 or even slightly below .500 ball over the last 12 without him.

The wiz fell back down to earth, and the narrative has switched back to "man they could really use Wall."

I think John has probably learned a lot though from watching Sato.

If that's the narrative, the narrative is wrong. People aren't noticing the incredibly easy schedule that Wall faced, and the significantly harder schedule that Sato has faced.

With Wall at the helm, the team should have gone 26-11 going by the SRS ranking system and factoring a +3 advantage for home court. They actually went 21-16. They were 5 games below expectations. With Sato at the helm, they should have gone 12-11. They actually went 14-9. They were 2 games better than expected.

Even in this past month, the Wizards should have gone 5-4 and only went 4-5. That's not some kind of serious slump. It's one game below expectations (and about the same level of disappointment as with Wall).

I hear you but do you take into consideration that the Wall we saw for some portion of this year was injured? Not hurt—-injured. Not an excuse - a fact. The thing I think we all learned is a injured wall isn’t much better than a healthy Sato. The question for us going forward is, do we have enough time when Wall gets back to incorporate Wall and Sato into a rotation that is an improvement over LAST year...not earlier this year- forget this year for the most part and let’s hope we can build on last year from when Wall returns. If you think about this year in isolation- it was a disaster on multiple fronts... health- team cohesion- pr and individual professionalism. Plus we didn’t get a rookie on a rookie contract that looks like he will help in the future. The only possible bright spot is the emergence of Sato...what else we got? I can’t wait till Wall gets back because if doesn’t get back soon we could fall further in the standings...and bounce in round 1. We need a favorable first round so we can have time to get wall back to 100-


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[nate33]

It probably was hard, but probably easy now that the Wiz have been playing .500 or even slightly below .500 ball over the last 12 without him.

The wiz fell back down to earth, and the narrative has switched back to "man they could really use Wall."

I think John has probably learned a lot though from watching Sato.

If that's the narrative, the narrative is wrong. People aren't noticing the incredibly easy schedule that Wall faced, and the significantly harder schedule that Sato has faced.

With Wall at the helm, the team should have gone 26-11 going by the SRS ranking system and factoring a +3 advantage for home court. They actually went 21-16. They were 5 games below expectations. With Sato at the helm, they should have gone 12-11. They actually went 14-9. They were 2 games better than expected.

Even in this past month, the Wizards should have gone 5-4 and only went 4-5. That's not some kind of serious slump. It's one game below expectations (and about the same level of disappointment as with Wall).

I hear you but do you take into consideration that the Wall we saw for some portion of this year was injured? Not hurt—-injured. Not an excuse - a fact. The thing I think we all learned is a injured wall isn’t much better than a healthy Sato. The question for us going forward is, do we have enough time when Wall gets back to incorporate Wall and Sato into a rotation that is an improvement over LAST year...not earlier this year- forget this year for the most part and let’s hope we can build on last year from when Wall returns. If you think about this year in isolation- it was a disaster on multiple fronts... health- team cohesion- pr and individual professionalism. Plus we didn’t get a rookie on a rookie contract that looks like he will help in the future. The only possible bright spot is the emergence of Sato...what else we got? I can’t wait till Wall gets back because if doesn’t get back soon we could fall further in the standings...and bounce in round 1. We need a favorable first round so we can have time to get wall back to 100-


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I'm not worried about the time necessary to incorporate Wall. It's not like we traded for him and he has to learn a new system with new teammates. He knows the plays and has been watching from the sidelines all along. Plus, he is already practicing with the team and they've had a lot of practice time this week due to the lack of games.

[DCZards]

If that's the narrative, the narrative is wrong. People aren't appreciating the incredibly easy schedule that Wall faced, and the significantly harder schedule that Sato has faced.

With Wall at the helm, the team should have gone 26-11 going by the SRS ranking system and factoring a +3 advantage for home court. They actually went 21-16. They were 5 games below expectations. With Sato at the helm, they should have gone 12-11. They actually went 14-9. They were 2 games better than expected.

Even in this past month, the Wizards should have gone 5-4 and only went 4-5. That's not some kind of serious slump. It's one game below expectations (and about the same level of disappointment as with Wall).

Does strength of schedule or SRS take into account the fact that Boston was without Irving and 2 or 3 other starters when the Zards played them earlier this month or that Cousins and Davis did not play for N.O.?

Sato has been tremendous, but I'd argue that the outcome of those games were more impacted by the absence of those players than they were by the presence of Sato.

There's no way of knowing for sure but those games are probably Ls if those teams are at full strength.

[Shanghai Kid]

I bet he is. It must be hard to listen to so many people point out how well the Wizards played without him and question how good Wall really is. I expect John to be highly motivated to prove himself. I just hope his metric for proving himself is team wins and not individual stats. I don't want him coming back to score 25 points a night on a TS% of 51%. That doesn't help.

It probably was hard, but probably easy now that the Wiz have been playing .500 or even slightly below .500 ball over the last 12 without him.

The wiz fell back down to earth, and the narrative has switched back to "man they could really use Wall."

I think John has probably learned a lot though from watching Sato.

If that's the narrative, the narrative is wrong. People aren't appreciating the incredibly easy schedule that Wall faced, and the significantly harder schedule that Sato has faced.

With Wall at the helm, the team should have gone 26-11 going by the SRS ranking system and factoring a +3 advantage for home court. They actually went 21-16. They were 5 games below expectations. With Sato at the helm, they should have gone 12-11. They actually went 14-9. They were 2 games better than expected.

Even in this past month, the Wizards should have gone 5-4 and only went 4-5. That's not some kind of serious slump. It's one game below expectations (and about the same level of disappointment as with Wall).

So how about the fact that 3 of those wins were against Indiana without Oladipo, New Orleans without Davis, and Boston without half it's roster?

Those on paper are "wow they beat playoff teams on the road", but not really impressive when you realize the teams were missing it's best players.