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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1261 » by prime1time » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:27 pm

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Dolevi wrote:You can't compare like that between Deni and Hachi while the 2nd one was picked on 2019 and is 24 yo, and the 1st one was picked on 2020 and he's 21 yo. Different players on the floor, with different types of plays. If you want to compare between them, the upside and ceiling is what you can rely on - all the rest - doesn't matter in my opinion (Who is now better ect ect).

In fairness, prime only commented on that last question, because I asked him to. &, also in fairness, I only asked him to comment, because I knew that he'd have to figure out a way to say Rui was better.

Why? Because Rui is obviously his favorite player: what Rui does badly has to be explained away, while whatever Rui does well has to be made to seem more significant than it is (though, obviously, it's always significant if a player does something well).

The truth is that neither of these guys has actually been any good so far. &, it's an unknown whether either of them will ever be any good.

At 24, Rui has this year & that's it: he needs to post numbers that are above average for a 4. Above average overall -- taking all the numbers into account. If he doesn't, you can call him a failure. Deni has a couple more years at most to do the same thing. But, that's as far as it goes.

I tell you what, if you offered either of these guys to Memphis for Jake LaRavia, the kid they took #19 in the draft 2 weeks ago, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested.

If you think Rui is my favorite player, wait until Avdija starts knocking down 3's lol
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1262 » by payitforward » Fri Jul 8, 2022 6:57 pm

Oh prime... fickle?

Here's hoping Johnny Davis is so dxmn good that he becomes our mutual favorite! :)
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1263 » by payitforward » Fri Jul 8, 2022 7:28 pm

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payitforward wrote:What the H@ll, since we might as well look the facts in the face:

Deni went #9 in 2020. Memphis took Desmond Bane #30 that year. Do you think they'd give us Desmond Bane straight up for Deni Avdija?

Rui went #9 in 2019. Memphis took Brandon Clarke #21 that year. Do you think they'd give us Brandon Clarke straight up for Rui Hachimura?

That ought to put the debate between Deni & Rui in the right context....

Clarke is a very fascinating player. What he does well, he does well. But like we pointed out at the draft, there really isn't a capacity for him to expand his role. Every season Clarke's 3-point shooting has gotten worse and last season he only shot .3 3's a game....

Wins are what matter. At the end of the game, the refs don't give the victory to the team that exhibited excellence in all facets of the game. They just look at the scoreboard, & the team with more points wins.

What Clarke does is contribute mightily to his team winning games.

Memphis won 56 of them last season. 2d in the league. Compared to an average PF, Clarke scored way more points, posted a .67 TS%, got more defensive boards than average, got 2.5 times as many offensive boards, blocked 2.5 times as many shots, & so forth.

That's compared to average -- you definitely don't want to see the same comparison done vs. Rui Hachimura, a way below average PF.

prime1time wrote:...Memphis is a good young team...

Memphis is one of the very best teams in the league. Period. Not just "good." & the qualifier "young" isn't needed either.

prime1time wrote:...but once they start paying their players - how much will Desmond Bane command? - they will have to face some tough decisions. Where does that team improve if Jackson, Morant, Bane and Brooks are all locked in?

Good Lord, man! I wish we had that problem -- so many young guys so good that we just didn't know how to pay them all!! :)

Instead we're paying Brad a colossal sum to decline (as every player does: not his fault) & rolling the dice on the talented but erratic & oft-injured KP.

Not that you describe a real problem they have, because you don't. Having control over tremendous assets is not usually thought of as a problem. Moreover, btw, did you notice that despite being a thousand times better team than the Washington Wizards, they brought in 4 rookie draft picks & signed a talented but undrafted rookie too?

On top of which, it doesn't even occur to you to list paying Clarke as a problem :) & you do list Jackson -- what makes you think he's a good player, btw? He isn't. & their FO is smart, so you can look for him to be traded w/in his current contract. Brooks isn't all that much help either, to tell the truth -- tho he's a good defender, I grant you that.

Brooks & Jackson are the last guys on the roster from the previous FO.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1264 » by Dolevi » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:36 am

payitforward wrote:
Dolevi wrote:You can't compare like that between Deni and Hachi while the 2nd one was picked on 2019 and is 24 yo, and the 1st one was picked on 2020 and he's 21 yo. Different players on the floor, with different types of plays. If you want to compare between them, the upside and ceiling is what you can rely on - all the rest - doesn't matter in my opinion (Who is now better ect ect).

In fairness, prime only commented on that last question, because I asked him to. &, also in fairness, I only asked him to comment, because I knew that he'd have to figure out a way to say Rui was better.

Why? Because Rui is obviously his favorite player: what Rui does badly has to be explained away, while whatever Rui does well has to be made to seem more significant than it is (though, obviously, it's always significant if a player does something well).

The truth is that neither of these guys has actually been any good so far. &, it's an unknown whether either of them will ever be any good.

At 24, Rui has this year & that's it: he needs to post numbers that are above average for a 4. Above average overall -- taking all the numbers into account. If he doesn't, you can call him a failure. Deni has a couple more years at most to do the same thing. But, that's as far as it goes.

I tell you what, if you offered either of these guys to Memphis for Jake LaRavia, the kid they took #19 in the draft 2 weeks ago, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested.

I see.
Agreed. 100%.
Both need to take the leap.
And what you wrote in the end just shows it. I do think they have a value, offcourse Deni as well (his talent and ability to get better over the years), but teams won't give that much for them in exchange, at least with how they look right now.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1265 » by Dolevi » Sat Jul 9, 2022 12:45 am

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payitforward wrote:
Dolevi wrote:You can't compare like that between Deni and Hachi while the 2nd one was picked on 2019 and is 24 yo, and the 1st one was picked on 2020 and he's 21 yo. Different players on the floor, with different types of plays. If you want to compare between them, the upside and ceiling is what you can rely on - all the rest - doesn't matter in my opinion (Who is now better ect ect).

In fairness, prime only commented on that last question, because I asked him to. &, also in fairness, I only asked him to comment, because I knew that he'd have to figure out a way to say Rui was better.

Why? Because Rui is obviously his favorite player: what Rui does badly has to be explained away, while whatever Rui does well has to be made to seem more significant than it is (though, obviously, it's always significant if a player does something well).

The truth is that neither of these guys has actually been any good so far. &, it's an unknown whether either of them will ever be any good.

At 24, Rui has this year & that's it: he needs to post numbers that are above average for a 4. Above average overall -- taking all the numbers into account. If he doesn't, you can call him a failure. Deni has a couple more years at most to do the same thing. But, that's as far as it goes.

I tell you what, if you offered either of these guys to Memphis for Jake LaRavia, the kid they took #19 in the draft 2 weeks ago, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be interested.

If you think Rui is my favorite player, wait until Avdija starts knocking down 3's lol

If* Avdija will start knocking down 3's :lol:
I hope it will happen before i'm getting 30 lol
Don't be mistaken. I love the kid, i'm israeli as well, but i'm a frustrated fan :D
If he'll be able to make these shots, he's gonna be a problem.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1266 » by prime1time » Sat Jul 9, 2022 2:28 pm

payitforward wrote:
prime1time wrote:
payitforward wrote:What the H@ll, since we might as well look the facts in the face:

Deni went #9 in 2020. Memphis took Desmond Bane #30 that year. Do you think they'd give us Desmond Bane straight up for Deni Avdija?

Rui went #9 in 2019. Memphis took Brandon Clarke #21 that year. Do you think they'd give us Brandon Clarke straight up for Rui Hachimura?

That ought to put the debate between Deni & Rui in the right context....

Clarke is a very fascinating player. What he does well, he does well. But like we pointed out at the draft, there really isn't a capacity for him to expand his role. Every season Clarke's 3-point shooting has gotten worse and last season he only shot .3 3's a game....

Wins are what matter. At the end of the game, the refs don't give the victory to the team that exhibited excellence in all facets of the game. They just look at the scoreboard, & the team with more points wins.

What Clarke does is contribute mightily to his team winning games.

Memphis won 56 of them last season. 2d in the league. Compared to an average PF, Clarke scored way more points, posted a .67 TS%, got more defensive boards than average, got 2.5 times as many offensive boards, blocked 2.5 times as many shots, & so forth.

That's compared to average -- you definitely don't want to see the same comparison done vs. Rui Hachimura, a way below average PF.

prime1time wrote:...Memphis is a good young team...

Memphis is one of the very best teams in the league. Period. Not just "good." & the qualifier "young" isn't needed either.

prime1time wrote:...but once they start paying their players - how much will Desmond Bane command? - they will have to face some tough decisions. Where does that team improve if Jackson, Morant, Bane and Brooks are all locked in?

Good Lord, man! I wish we had that problem -- so many young guys so good that we just didn't know how to pay them all!! :)

Instead we're paying Brad a colossal sum to decline (as every player does: not his fault) & rolling the dice on the talented but erratic & oft-injured KP.

Not that you describe a real problem they have, because you don't. Having control over tremendous assets is not usually thought of as a problem. Moreover, btw, did you notice that despite being a thousand times better team than the Washington Wizards, they brought in 4 rookie draft picks & signed a talented but undrafted rookie too?

On top of which, it doesn't even occur to you to list paying Clarke as a problem :) & you do list Jackson -- what makes you think he's a good player, btw? He isn't. & their FO is smart, so you can look for him to be traded w/in his current contract. Brooks isn't all that much help either, to tell the truth -- tho he's a good defender, I grant you that.

Brooks & Jackson are the last guys on the roster from the previous FO.

We did have that problem lol. Wall, Beal and Porter and no cap space. The NBA is cyclical.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1267 » by 80sballboy » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:53 pm

Dude is taking the off-season seriously. Working with a trainer (Ben Bruno) and shooting coach (Drew Hanlon).
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Post#1268 » by TGW » Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:55 pm

Out of all the players Sheppard has drafted, Deni is the only one worth the investment IMO. Everyone else is fodder.
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Post#1269 » by Dark Faze » Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:11 pm

TGW wrote:Out of all the players Sheppard has drafted, Deni is the only one worth the investment IMO. Everyone else is fodder.


I think Kispert will be in the league a while as well, but the likely best-case scenario for his archetype is to probably get overpaid like Duncan Robinson and Bertans. Great piece for an elite team that'll be willing to pay the tax. Limited value for us who probably won't be good enough to afford keeping him.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1270 » by queridiculo » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:48 pm

Dark Faze wrote:
TGW wrote:Out of all the players Sheppard has drafted, Deni is the only one worth the investment IMO. Everyone else is fodder.


I think Kispert will be in the league a while as well, but the likely best-case scenario for his archetype is to probably get overpaid like Duncan Robinson and Bertans. Great piece for an elite team that'll be willing to pay the tax. Limited value for us who probably won't be good enough to afford keeping him.


Hated the pick, but I've come around on Kispert.

Deceptive athlete, great defensive awareness, if that shot comes around he could really be a weapon coming off the bench.

Agreed on Avdija, if our squad wasn't so flooded with forwards I wouldn't have minded passing on Haliburton that much.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1271 » by nate33 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:18 pm

Dark Faze wrote:
TGW wrote:Out of all the players Sheppard has drafted, Deni is the only one worth the investment IMO. Everyone else is fodder.


I think Kispert will be in the league a while as well, but the likely best-case scenario for his archetype is to probably get overpaid like Duncan Robinson and Bertans. Great piece for an elite team that'll be willing to pay the tax. Limited value for us who probably won't be good enough to afford keeping him.

Some of the defensive metrics on Kispert are pretty good though. He ranks 32nd among 98 SF's in DRPM, for example.

CntOutSmrtCrazy posted this a while back:

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That's some pretty good company there. It's particularly impressive when factoring that Kispert is a rookie.

I'm not sure if it's real or not, but he might actually be a more respectable defender than perceived - which makes him much more valuable than a Duncan Robinson because he can stay on the floor in a playoff game.
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Post#1272 » by arusinov » Thu Jul 14, 2022 3:27 pm

nate33 wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy posted this a while back:

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That's some pretty good company there. It's particularly impressive when factoring that Kispert is a rookie.

I'm not sure if it's real or not, but he might actually be a more respectable defender than perceived - which makes him much more valuable than a Duncan Robinson because he can stay on the floor in a playoff game.


Those stats can be seen on synergysports here: https://synergysports.com/impacting-other-players-shot-quality/
What's interesting is that Deni not only 4th best in this list after two defensive centers and Klay which defended 3x less possessions) but also this conclusion:

The list of high-impact defenders is perhaps less obviously “correct” than the offensive list. But some of the best defensive big men in the league are there (Rudy Gobert, Draymond Green, Bam Adebayo, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Myles Turner, Al Horford) as well as some wings (Jayson Tatum, Deni Avdija, Kenrich Williams) and guards (Alex Caruso, Gary Payton II, Derrick White) who are highly rated defenders according to the plus-minus stats. Notice that the range of impact is smaller on defense than it was on offense.


It seems that there're already people (and not Wizards fans like some people here claim) which consider Deni being one of best wing defenders in NBA as obvious fact...
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Post#1273 » by doclinkin » Thu Jul 14, 2022 4:34 pm

arusinov wrote:It seems that there're already people (and not Wizards fans like some people here claim) which consider Deni being one of best wing defenders in NBA as obvious fact...



Which becomes self-reinforcing when Refs give the benefit of the doubt to the guy with the defensive reputation. Deni needs to do it on a nationwide broadcast against a top calibre player, or better, if this team as a whole develops a good defensive rep.

I still have a solid confidence that Wes will improve this team incrementally year after year on that side of the ball. There are good weapons on defense, and solid team players who can fit within a scheme, he simply needs guys who are willing to buy into that scheme. Montrezl Harrell on an expiring contract was not going to be the defensive anchor. Defense is about anticipation, communication, effort

Plus defenders on the team:
Wright
(Davis, if healthy)
Deni
Rui (one on one), Kuzma when defensive rebounding.
Zinger, Gafford when dialed in.

Not enough at any one position to be dominant, but there are parts here that could make the team competent, or even competitive.
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Post#1274 » by Dolevi » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:25 pm

https://nba.sport5.co.il/articles.aspx?FolderID=403&docID=409160

An interview in Israeli official sports media with Drew Hanlen about Deni's potential and process & why he chosed to train him.

Amidst all the workload alongside the biggest stars in the world, do you sometimes manage to look back on your path and figure out where you are today at 32?
"Not so much. One thing I do not have in life is free time, I work around the clock. What does my normal day look like? I arrive at the hall at 07:00, stay there until 15:00, today for example I worked with 13 NBA players, and then I go home and watch the video. Then I talk in 'Face-time' with the players, share my insights and there are times we go back to the hall and continue working that evening. Plus I do more things, I have my own girlfriend and I write a book, but as they say "You must not complain when there is too much food on the plate. I enjoy the hard work, I prayed for years to be where I am today."


A lot of NBA players want to work with you, but your time is limited and you pick them with tweezers. How does your "selection" works and what made you take Avdija under your care?
"I limit the number of players I work with because it's a process that requires a lot. In the case of Avdija the Wizards management contacted me, I'm very close to them thanks to Bradley Beal who is also my first trainee, I work with him since he was 13. I knew before that how much Deni talented but I also knew he could play basketball better. I talked to Washington and his agents, who also approached me, and saw in front of me an opportunity to change the beginning of his NBA career.
In his first two seasons in the league Deni paid a high 'tuition' that required him to make adjustments to his game, but I feel this summer was the best time for him to get a wake-up call from me. He will be able to make a leap."


Once you've received the application regarding Avdija, did you immediately agree to coach him or did it take you a while to make the decision?
"It took me a while to get an answer, I had a few conversations with people close to Deni to understand how he is as a person. I talked to the Wizards management, his teammates, people I knew who knew him and Israeli development coach Yogev Bardugo. I wanted to know everything about Avdija as a player and as a person, and I felt he was one of those players who had not yet realized their great potential. I wanted to wake him up so that he could become a player that everyone thinks he can be."


What did Beal tell you about Avdija?
"That he was never pushed or trained properly. He also told me that Deni has a lot of potential and that he can become a great player, but for that to happen he needs to improve his shooting and be more mentally stable."


Have you followed Avdija even before you guys started working together?
"I haven't missed a single game in Beal's career, so I saw a lot of Avdija, but I did not watch it live in the second half of last season because Beal was injured. I really wanted Deni to be the aggressive player again with confidence, playing strong on the floor and Improving his shooting off the arc because in modern basketball if you can space the offense you will get more minutes, that's the biggest key for him. In addition, I wanted him to know how to make his size and athleticism an advantage on both sides of the court."


How much training did you and Avdija have?
"We trained for three consecutive weeks, now he is in Israel for the games with the team and I hope that after that we will continue the work in the United States with a few more weeks before the season starts."


Avdija is still talking to you while he is in Israel? Does he keep asking you questions and learning from a distance?
"Yes. I sent him some training, so he is working on them together with one of the Wizards's coaches who flew with him to Israel, and at the same time he will train with the team."


Which NBA players worked together with Avdija?
"Tyler Hero was also here at the time, but Deni worked mostly with Tyrese Haliburton (Indiana) and Kelly Oubre Jr (Charlotte)."


How did Avdija get along with the fact that Haliburton selected after him in the 2020 draft? It seems that every basketball fan would agree that Haliburton should have been chosen higher than where he was chosen (12) ...
"The truth is I only discovered this story between them two weeks into training, and from that moment on I started a 'trash talk' with Tires non-stop. Deni got along with him and all the players excellently, he's such a nice person. I'm actually told him he's too nice and I want him There's more 'maniac' and self-confidence on the floor. I also started 'trash talk' with him, I told him all sorts of nonsense that would build and strengthen him. To be a good development coach in the NBA you need to know which buttons to press, and there were days when Deni hated me "But I told him, 'Hate me now, thank me later.'"


From what you've seen and heard, how do senior NBA players view Avdija?
"It was hard for me to see that we are at a very early stage of the summer, the competitive games between the players only start at the end of July-beginning of August. I have not heard what is being said about Deni."


What did you focus on in training with Avdija?
"First of all - the shooting. We made some small changes in Deni's technique to make his shot more fluid and clean. Many times he would release the ball and not bend his wrist enough, and at the same time he would lean back in the shot instead of jumping more forward with momentum. We also focused on his penetration and extension in the ring area. We still have a lot of work to do in the left penetration, but overall Deni is definitely on the right track, especially when it comes to improved shooting."


What impressed you the most during the training?
"I really liked seeing how he improved his mental toughness in three weeks. He was able to cope with the fatigue and take himself to new levels emotionally and mentally."


To the Israeli public, it seems that before his move to the NBA, Avdija felt much more comfortable dunking on other players, as he did in the Euroleague against Gigi Datuma. Now can one expect the same approach in the best league in the world?
"I would love to see it. As I said, Deni keeps working on his penetration, he's on the right track. He's so athletic, and I told him he must take advantage of it. The main thing I tried to do was improve his mental aspect, and I definitely think That Deni will take another step in the right direction in the NBA."


What most surprised you about Avdija during training?
"There were not too many surprises, I did my homework, but the only thing that surprised me was Avdija's modesty. Before Deni entered the league some scouts said he was arrogant, but I felt he was the complete opposite. I want to see him more confident in himself. I don't Know if he lost it early in his career in the NBA or just got a little older, but I felt he was the nicest person ever. I told him I could not wait until he'll be more 'maniac' (Trash-talk player / Pat Bev kind of player :lol: ) on the floor so we could take his game one step further."


Last season Avdija's shooting was less than 32 percent from three, the lowest figure in the NBA among the small forwards who scored at least 82 three-pointers. What percentage should he aim for in the coming season?
"I'm sure he will improve his shooting from the outside. If he goes up to 36% it will be a huge jump and any figure higher than that will be an incredible success. I do not want to put a number in front of his eyes, the most important thing for me is that his technique is correct. They will come alone."


In one of the videos posted on the networks we saw Avdija taking threes more "deep" (far), something we have seen less of so far. Is this an element you emphasized?
"Yes, I want him to be a more versatile slinger. He can score from different areas on the court, after a dribble or after a delivery. Most days we threw and threw until his hands fell. Then I gave him a short rest, then I told him to throw again until his hands really they were unable to release the ball. Results require hours upon hours that you do not see outward, and Deni was willing to invest that time. Now the goal is simply to keep working."


At the work level, is there a certain resemblance between Avdija and any of the other stars you work with?
"Not really, each player is different from the other and improves in a different way. It was the first time in Avdija's career that they really pushed him to the edge physically, mentally and emotionally. I think he reacted excellently and over time with me he improved his reaction."


What should be Avdija's personal goals for the 2022/23 season?
"The percentage of three needs to improve and so does his effort on the floor. Avdija needs to be a top five player in the NBA and he needs to earn the trust of the coaches and players next to him. Right now Washington is raising Avdija off the bench, but if he continues to do his he will have a place in the line-up. The main goal is that they will trust him in money-time when the game is at stake."


Looking to the future, do you plan to continue working with Avdija or was it something one-off for the summer of 2022?
"I will definitely continue to work with Deni, I really like him. I know he has a lot of room for improvement and in three weeks it is impossible to do too much. I believe this is the beginning of a particularly enjoyable journey."


In an interview here with the Wizards reporter before Avdija's debut in the NBA, the vast majority claimed he would be an All-Star in this league. Is this something that the Israeli audience can still dream about?
"I do not want to put expectations on his shoulders. The most important thing is that he will work hard and become a master in his own work outside the parquet. Then he will have to become a master in all his elements on the parquet, and then we will see how far he will go. I love Deni as a player, I love Deni as a person and I know he can show a lot more than he has shown so far. I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised by Avdija's improvement in the coming years. Fans like to jump to conclusions early on, but I would like them to look at his improvement graph. In time they will love the player that Deni will become."


After two years in the NBA, you can't put your finger on what kind of player Avdija is - is he a "3 and D", is he a "playmaker", etc. Do you like players who know how to do a little bit of everything or do you prefer to see Avdija focus on a more specific role on the floor?
"At the end of the day Avdija is a basketball player. If he earns the trust of his team he will spend time on the floor and contribute to every aspect of the game. Deni needs to focus on being a winning player who does everything to get Washington to the playoffs and win the playoffs. The main thing is that you will influence the victory."


How do you really see Avdija contributing to victories in Washington's new roster?
"We'll have to wait and see. Avdija has to keep working hard and if he improves his shooting and his effort in every position on both sides of the floor - I think he'll really like the season he'll have."


As you know the NBA is a league of opportunities, especially at the age of Avdija. Do you think at Washington he can develop and fulfill his potential?
"Yes. Trust me - I worked full time with Beal and he wants to win in Washington. He wants to get as much help as possible so everyone is in favor of Deni and everyone wants him to fulfill the potential we all know he has."



Sorry if i had mistakes in translation guys.
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Re: Deni Avdija 

Post#1275 » by payitforward » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:43 pm

It's pretty clear -- thanks for doing this!
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Post#1276 » by doclinkin » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:45 pm

Dolevi wrote:https://nba.sport5.co.il/articles.aspx?FolderID=403&docID=409160

An interview in Israeli official sports media with Drew Hanlen about Deni's potential and process & why he chosed to train him.

Amidst all the workload alongside the biggest stars in the world, do you sometimes manage to look back on your path and figure out where you are today at 32?
"Not so much. One thing I do not have in life is free time, I work around the clock. What does my normal day look like? I arrive at the hall at 07:00, stay there until 15:00, today for example I worked with 13 NBA players, and then I go home and watch the video. Then I talk in 'Face-time' with the players, share my insights and there are times we go back to the hall and continue working that evening. Plus I do more things, I have my own girlfriend and I write a book, but as they say "You must not complain when there is too much food on the plate. I enjoy the hard work, I prayed for years to be where I am today."


A lot of NBA players want to work with you, but your time is limited and you pick them with tweezers. How does your "selection" works and what made you take Avdija under your care?
"I limit the number of players I work with because it's a process that requires a lot. In the case of Avdija the Wizards management contacted me, I'm very close to them thanks to Bradley Beal who is also my first trainee, I work with him since he was 13. I knew before that how much Deni talented but I also knew he could play basketball better. I talked to Washington and his agents, who also approached me, and saw in front of me an opportunity to change the beginning of his NBA career.
In his first two seasons in the league Deni paid a high 'tuition' that required him to make adjustments to his game, but I feel this summer was the best time for him to get a wake-up call from me. He will be able to make a leap."


Once you've received the application regarding Avdija, did you immediately agree to coach him or did it take you a while to make the decision?
"It took me a while to get an answer, I had a few conversations with people close to Deni to understand how he is as a person. I talked to the Wizards management, his teammates, people I knew who knew him and Israeli development coach Yogev Bardugo. I wanted to know everything about Avdija as a player and as a person, and I felt he was one of those players who had not yet realized their great potential. I wanted to wake him up so that he could become a player that everyone thinks he can be."


What did Beal tell you about Avdija?
"That he was never pushed or trained properly. He also told me that Deni has a lot of potential and that he can become a great player, but for that to happen he needs to improve his shooting and be more mentally stable."


Have you followed Avdija even before you guys started working together?
"I haven't missed a single game in Beal's career, so I saw a lot of Avdija, but I did not watch it live in the second half of last season because Beal was injured. I really wanted Deni to be the aggressive player again with confidence, playing strong on the pitch. "Improve his shooting off the arc because in modern basketball if you can earn the offense you will get more minutes, that's the biggest key for him. In addition, I wanted him to know how to make his size and athleticism an advantage on both sides of the court."


How much training did you and Avdija have?
"We trained for three consecutive weeks, now he is in Israel for the games with the team and I hope that after that we will continue the work in the United States with a few more weeks before the season starts."


Avdija is still talking to you while he is in Israel? Does he keep asking you questions and learning from a distance?
"Yes. I sent him some training, so he is working on them together with one of the Wizards's coaches who flew with him to Israel, and at the same time he will train with the team."


Which NBA players worked together with Avdija?
"Tyler Hero was also here at the time, but Deni worked mostly with Tyrese Haliburton (Indiana) and Kelly Oubre Jr (Charlotte)."


How did Avdija get along with the fact that Haliburton selected after him in the 2020 draft? It seems that every basketball fan would agree that Haliburton should have been chosen higher than where he was chosen (12) ...
"The truth is I only discovered this story between them two weeks into training, and from that moment on I started a 'trash talk' with Tires non-stop. Deni got along with him and all the players excellently, he's such a nice person. I'm actually told him he's too nice and I want him There's more 'maniac' and self-confidence on the floor. I also started 'trash talk' with him, I told him all sorts of nonsense that would build and strengthen him. To be a good development coach in the NBA you need to know which buttons to press, and there were days when Deni hated me "But I told him, 'Hate me now, thank me later.'"


From what you've seen and heard, how do senior NBA players view Avdija?
"It was hard for me to see that we are at a very early stage of the summer, the competitive games between the players only start at the end of July-beginning of August. I have not heard what is being said about Deni."


What did you focus on in training with Avdija?
"First of all - the shooting. We made some small changes in Deni's technique to make his shot more fluid and clean. Many times he would release the ball and not bend his wrist enough, and at the same time he would lean back in the shot instead of jumping more forward with momentum. "We also focused on his penetration and extension in the ring area. We still have a lot of work to do in the left penetration, but overall Deni is definitely on the right track, especially when it comes to improved shooting."


What impressed you the most during the training?
"I really liked seeing how he improved his mental toughness in three weeks. He was able to cope with the fatigue and take himself to new levels emotionally and mentally."


To the Israeli public, it seems that before his move to the NBA, Avdija felt much more comfortable drowning in other players, as he did in the Euroleague against Gigi Datuma. Now can one expect the same approach in the best league in the world?
"I would love to see it. As I said, Deni keeps working on his penetration, he's on the right track. He's so athletic, and I told him he must take advantage of it. The main thing I tried to do was improve his mental aspect, and I definitely think That Deni will take another step in the right direction in the NBA. "


What most surprised you about Avdija during training?
"There were not too many surprises, I did my homework, but the only thing that surprised me was Avdija's modesty. Before Deni entered the league some scouts said he was arrogant, but I felt he was the complete opposite. I want to see him more confident in himself. I'm not. Know if he lost it early in his career in the NBA or just got a little older, but I felt he was the nicest person ever.I told him I could not wait until he was more 'maniac' on the floor so we could take his game one step further ".


Last season Avdija's shooting was less than 32 percent from three, the lowest figure in the NBA among the small forwards who scored at least 82 three-pointers. What percentage should he aim for in the coming season?
"I'm sure he will improve his shooting from the outside. If he goes up to 36% it will be a huge jump and any figure higher than that will be an incredible success. I do not want to put a number in front of his eyes, the most important thing for me is that his technique is correct. They will come alone. "


In one of the videos posted on the networks we saw Avdija taking threes more "deep" (far), something we have seen less of so far. Is this an element you emphasized?
"Yes, I want him to be a more versatile slinger. He can score from different areas on the court, after a dribble or after a delivery. Most days we threw and threw until his hands fell. Then I gave him a short rest, then I told him to throw again until his hands really "They were unable to release the ball. Results require hours upon hours that you do not see outward, and Deni was willing to invest that time. Now the goal is simply to keep working."


At the work level, is there a certain resemblance between Avdija and any of the other stars you work with?
"Not really, each player is different from the other and improves in a different way. It was the first time in Avdija's career that they really pushed him to the edge physically, mentally and emotionally. I think he reacted excellently and over time with me he improved his reaction."


What should be Avdija's personal goals for the 2022/23 season?
"The percentage of three needs to improve and so does his effort on the floor. Avdija needs to be a top five player in the NBA and he needs to earn the trust of the coaches and players next to him. Right now Washington is raising Avdija off the bench, but if he continues to do his he will have a place in the top five. They will be trusted in money-time when the game is at stake. "


Looking to the future, do you plan to continue working with Avdija or was it something one-off for the summer of 2022?
"I will definitely continue to work with Deni, I really like him. I know he has a lot of room for improvement and in three weeks it is impossible to do too much. I believe this is the beginning of a particularly enjoyable journey."


In an interview here with the Wizards reporter before Avdija's debut in the NBA, the vast majority claimed he would be an All-Star in this league. Is this something that the Israeli audience can still dream about?
"I do not want to put expectations on his shoulders. The most important thing is that he will work hard and become a master in his own work outside the parquet. Then he will have to become a master in all his elements on the parquet, and then we will see how far he will go. I love Deni as a player, I love Deni as a person and I know he can show a lot more than he has shown so far.I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised by Avdija's improvement in the coming years.Fans like to jump to conclusions early on, but I would like them to look at his improvement graph.In time they They will love the player that Deni will become. "


After two years in the NBA, you can't put your finger on what kind of player Avdija is - is he a "3 and D", is he a "playmaker", etc. Do you like players who know how to do a little bit of everything or do you prefer to see Avdija focus on a more specific role on the pitch?
"At the end of the day Avdija is a basketball player. If he earns the trust of his team he will spend time on the floor and contribute to every aspect of the game. Deni needs to focus on being a winning player who does everything to get Washington to the playoffs and win the playoffs. "The main thing is that you will influence the victory."


How do you really see Avdija contributing to victories in Washington's new roster?
"We'll have to wait and see. Avdija has to keep working hard and if he improves his shooting and his effort in every position on both sides of the pitch - I think he will really like the season he has."


[As you know the NBA is a league of opportunities, especially at the age of Avdija. Do you think at Washington he can develop and fulfill his potential?
"Yes. Trust me - I worked full time with Beal and he wants to win in Washington. He wants to get as much help as possible so everyone is in favor of Deni and everyone wants him to fulfill the potential we all know he has."



Sorry if i had mistakes in translation guys.



Much appreciated. No complaints here, I like any poetic mistakes in translation, they reveal idioms that other languages use. The sense of the meaning is there.
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Post#1277 » by Frichuela » Tue Jul 19, 2022 2:54 pm

Dolevi wrote:https://nba.sport5.co.il/articles.aspx?FolderID=403&docID=409160

An interview in Israeli official sports media with Drew Hanlen about Deni's potential and process & why he chosed to train him.

Amidst all the workload alongside the biggest stars in the world, do you sometimes manage to look back on your path and figure out where you are today at 32?
"Not so much. One thing I do not have in life is free time, I work around the clock. What does my normal day look like? I arrive at the hall at 07:00, stay there until 15:00, today for example I worked with 13 NBA players, and then I go home and watch the video. Then I talk in 'Face-time' with the players, share my insights and there are times we go back to the hall and continue working that evening. Plus I do more things, I have my own girlfriend and I write a book, but as they say "You must not complain when there is too much food on the plate. I enjoy the hard work, I prayed for years to be where I am today."


A lot of NBA players want to work with you, but your time is limited and you pick them with tweezers. How does your "selection" works and what made you take Avdija under your care?
"I limit the number of players I work with because it's a process that requires a lot. In the case of Avdija the Wizards management contacted me, I'm very close to them thanks to Bradley Beal who is also my first trainee, I work with him since he was 13. I knew before that how much Deni talented but I also knew he could play basketball better. I talked to Washington and his agents, who also approached me, and saw in front of me an opportunity to change the beginning of his NBA career.
In his first two seasons in the league Deni paid a high 'tuition' that required him to make adjustments to his game, but I feel this summer was the best time for him to get a wake-up call from me. He will be able to make a leap."


Once you've received the application regarding Avdija, did you immediately agree to coach him or did it take you a while to make the decision?
"It took me a while to get an answer, I had a few conversations with people close to Deni to understand how he is as a person. I talked to the Wizards management, his teammates, people I knew who knew him and Israeli development coach Yogev Bardugo. I wanted to know everything about Avdija as a player and as a person, and I felt he was one of those players who had not yet realized their great potential. I wanted to wake him up so that he could become a player that everyone thinks he can be."


What did Beal tell you about Avdija?
"That he was never pushed or trained properly. He also told me that Deni has a lot of potential and that he can become a great player, but for that to happen he needs to improve his shooting and be more mentally stable."


Have you followed Avdija even before you guys started working together?
"I haven't missed a single game in Beal's career, so I saw a lot of Avdija, but I did not watch it live in the second half of last season because Beal was injured. I really wanted Deni to be the aggressive player again with confidence, playing strong on the pitch. "Improve his shooting off the arc because in modern basketball if you can earn the offense you will get more minutes, that's the biggest key for him. In addition, I wanted him to know how to make his size and athleticism an advantage on both sides of the court."


How much training did you and Avdija have?
"We trained for three consecutive weeks, now he is in Israel for the games with the team and I hope that after that we will continue the work in the United States with a few more weeks before the season starts."


Avdija is still talking to you while he is in Israel? Does he keep asking you questions and learning from a distance?
"Yes. I sent him some training, so he is working on them together with one of the Wizards's coaches who flew with him to Israel, and at the same time he will train with the team."


Which NBA players worked together with Avdija?
"Tyler Hero was also here at the time, but Deni worked mostly with Tyrese Haliburton (Indiana) and Kelly Oubre Jr (Charlotte)."


How did Avdija get along with the fact that Haliburton selected after him in the 2020 draft? It seems that every basketball fan would agree that Haliburton should have been chosen higher than where he was chosen (12) ...
"The truth is I only discovered this story between them two weeks into training, and from that moment on I started a 'trash talk' with Tires non-stop. Deni got along with him and all the players excellently, he's such a nice person. I'm actually told him he's too nice and I want him There's more 'maniac' and self-confidence on the floor. I also started 'trash talk' with him, I told him all sorts of nonsense that would build and strengthen him. To be a good development coach in the NBA you need to know which buttons to press, and there were days when Deni hated me "But I told him, 'Hate me now, thank me later.'"


From what you've seen and heard, how do senior NBA players view Avdija?
"It was hard for me to see that we are at a very early stage of the summer, the competitive games between the players only start at the end of July-beginning of August. I have not heard what is being said about Deni."


What did you focus on in training with Avdija?
"First of all - the shooting. We made some small changes in Deni's technique to make his shot more fluid and clean. Many times he would release the ball and not bend his wrist enough, and at the same time he would lean back in the shot instead of jumping more forward with momentum. "We also focused on his penetration and extension in the ring area. We still have a lot of work to do in the left penetration, but overall Deni is definitely on the right track, especially when it comes to improved shooting."


What impressed you the most during the training?
"I really liked seeing how he improved his mental toughness in three weeks. He was able to cope with the fatigue and take himself to new levels emotionally and mentally."


To the Israeli public, it seems that before his move to the NBA, Avdija felt much more comfortable drowning in other players, as he did in the Euroleague against Gigi Datuma. Now can one expect the same approach in the best league in the world?
"I would love to see it. As I said, Deni keeps working on his penetration, he's on the right track. He's so athletic, and I told him he must take advantage of it. The main thing I tried to do was improve his mental aspect, and I definitely think That Deni will take another step in the right direction in the NBA. "


What most surprised you about Avdija during training?
"There were not too many surprises, I did my homework, but the only thing that surprised me was Avdija's modesty. Before Deni entered the league some scouts said he was arrogant, but I felt he was the complete opposite. I want to see him more confident in himself. I'm not. Know if he lost it early in his career in the NBA or just got a little older, but I felt he was the nicest person ever.I told him I could not wait until he was more 'maniac' on the floor so we could take his game one step further ".


Last season Avdija's shooting was less than 32 percent from three, the lowest figure in the NBA among the small forwards who scored at least 82 three-pointers. What percentage should he aim for in the coming season?
"I'm sure he will improve his shooting from the outside. If he goes up to 36% it will be a huge jump and any figure higher than that will be an incredible success. I do not want to put a number in front of his eyes, the most important thing for me is that his technique is correct. They will come alone. "


In one of the videos posted on the networks we saw Avdija taking threes more "deep" (far), something we have seen less of so far. Is this an element you emphasized?
"Yes, I want him to be a more versatile slinger. He can score from different areas on the court, after a dribble or after a delivery. Most days we threw and threw until his hands fell. Then I gave him a short rest, then I told him to throw again until his hands really "They were unable to release the ball. Results require hours upon hours that you do not see outward, and Deni was willing to invest that time. Now the goal is simply to keep working."


At the work level, is there a certain resemblance between Avdija and any of the other stars you work with?
"Not really, each player is different from the other and improves in a different way. It was the first time in Avdija's career that they really pushed him to the edge physically, mentally and emotionally. I think he reacted excellently and over time with me he improved his reaction."


What should be Avdija's personal goals for the 2022/23 season?
"The percentage of three needs to improve and so does his effort on the floor. Avdija needs to be a top five player in the NBA and he needs to earn the trust of the coaches and players next to him. Right now Washington is raising Avdija off the bench, but if he continues to do his he will have a place in the line-up. The main goal is that they will trust him in money-time when the game is at stake. "


Looking to the future, do you plan to continue working with Avdija or was it something one-off for the summer of 2022?
"I will definitely continue to work with Deni, I really like him. I know he has a lot of room for improvement and in three weeks it is impossible to do too much. I believe this is the beginning of a particularly enjoyable journey."


In an interview here with the Wizards reporter before Avdija's debut in the NBA, the vast majority claimed he would be an All-Star in this league. Is this something that the Israeli audience can still dream about?
"I do not want to put expectations on his shoulders. The most important thing is that he will work hard and become a master in his own work outside the parquet. Then he will have to become a master in all his elements on the parquet, and then we will see how far he will go. I love Deni as a player, I love Deni as a person and I know he can show a lot more than he has shown so far.I think a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised by Avdija's improvement in the coming years.Fans like to jump to conclusions early on, but I would like them to look at his improvement graph.In time they They will love the player that Deni will become. "


After two years in the NBA, you can't put your finger on what kind of player Avdija is - is he a "3 and D", is he a "playmaker", etc. Do you like players who know how to do a little bit of everything or do you prefer to see Avdija focus on a more specific role on the floor?
"At the end of the day Avdija is a basketball player. If he earns the trust of his team he will spend time on the floor and contribute to every aspect of the game. Deni needs to focus on being a winning player who does everything to get Washington to the playoffs and win the playoffs. "The main thing is that you will influence the victory."


How do you really see Avdija contributing to victories in Washington's new roster?
"We'll have to wait and see. Avdija has to keep working hard and if he improves his shooting and his effort in every position on both sides of the pitch - I think he will really like the season he has."


As you know the NBA is a league of opportunities, especially at the age of Avdija. Do you think at Washington he can develop and fulfill his potential?
"Yes. Trust me - I worked full time with Beal and he wants to win in Washington. He wants to get as much help as possible so everyone is in favor of Deni and everyone wants him to fulfill the potential we all know he has."



Sorry if i had mistakes in translation guys.


Thank you so much for this, Dolevi. In truth, a big leap from Deni is the biggest (positive) swing factor that this franchise can have. A Deni who becomes a top 50 player in the league combined with Beal and a healthy Porzingis would change our upside significantly.
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Post#1278 » by Dolevi » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:02 pm

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Post#1279 » by Halcyon » Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:41 pm

Deni will make a leap!
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Post#1280 » by dckingsfan » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:38 pm

Frichuela wrote:Thank you so much for this, Dolevi. In truth, a big leap from Deni is the biggest (positive) swing factor that this franchise can have. A Deni who becomes a top 50 player in the league combined with Beal and a healthy Porzingis would change our upside significantly.

And that is where we are at - hope as a plan. Beal has to be healthy and get back to where he was at (difficult with the rule changes). Porzingis has to stay healthy and take a bit of a leap. And Deni needs to take a huge leap into a top 50 player.

But it is what it is - here is to hope.

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