Bradley Beal - Part II

[Higga]

I'm more concerned about Beal's passiveness and inability to stay healthy.

[tontoz]

I am mostly concered with Ernie (take my money, PLEASE) Grunfeld making Beal a huge offer this summer. I wouldn't offer Beal anything. He hasn't proved he is a better than average starting 2. Make him prove it next year.

[Induveca]

I am mostly concered with Ernie (take my money, PLEASE) Grunfeld making Beal a huge offer this summer. I wouldn't offer Beal anything. He hasn't proved he is a better than average starting 2. Make him prove it next year.

Agreed. He was hyped as a "pure shooter" (due to his smooth form) who ironically couldn't shoot. My main concern at the time.

He's the same thing in the pros. Calbert Cheaney 2.0.

[nate33]

I am mostly concered with Ernie (take my money, PLEASE) Grunfeld making Beal a huge offer this summer. I wouldn't offer Beal anything. He hasn't proved he is a better than average starting 2. Make him prove it next year.

Agreed. He was hyped as a "pure shooter" (due to his smooth form) who ironically couldn't shoot. My main concern at the time.

He's the same thing in the pros. Calbert Cheaney 2.0.

Nah. He's better than Cheaney because he can indeed hit the 3. Beal isn't an awful player. He's a legit starter in this league - just a below-average one. And he is young, he'll probably develop into at least an average starter.

Cheaney was never any better than a 6th man type of player.

I'm not trying to hate on Beal. I'm just being realistic about him. I see no evidence that he will be a top 10 player at his position. We need to make sure we don't pay him like one. If that looks likely, we need to make sure we trade him first.

But I know EG isn't going to be proactive about it. It's 100% certain that Beal will not be traded and he will end up getting resigned for more than $10M a year.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Cheaney's best season (his second) wasn't as good as Beal's rookie season, which is Beal's least productive (at least so far).

[hands11]

Ok, the Chris Middleton thread spun off into a Beal debate...

I guess this belong here more then there. Hoping to see Beal get back in the swing soon.

Missing time this summer and to start the year, after 6 games leading into December.. here is what he did.

Dec he shot .471 from 3 on 4.4 attempts.
Jan he shot .432 from 3 on 4.4 attempts

He is shooting more shots at the rim now and a higher percentage. Less long 2s.
His 16 ft to less then 3 shot attempt numbers are down from .361 to .275 . lowest in his career.

Finishing 3 feet and in at .620 Shooting the 3 at .411

Feb..he missed from Thu 2/5 to Sat 2/28. Pretty much the entire month.

March. he played the last game of Feb and the first two in March. Then missed a game and now has 2 games under his belt. That not enough for him to get back in a grove like he was in during DEC and JAN.

He has missed 18 games this year.
NBA has played 65 this year.
Beal played 47 where he played well then went out injured again. That including the 6 games to get ramped up and a few in his return

17 to go. That's 36% of his number still to go. Keep that in mind.

Considering his Dec and Jan numbers TS% .533 over 33 games, keep in mind how much more heavily 17 games is going to get weighted in his numbers. He is currently TS% .514

So I'm not over reacting after missing all that time, playing 3 games, missing another and then playing 2 more. He could easily find his grove in the next couple games and get back to his DEC/JAN mode and end the year with a career high TS%

So we have to wait this out to see if he shows improvement in this TS and WS48 numbers. He is already showing it in his shot selection.

Looking forward to seeing him break out again in the next few games.

[closg00]

It would be so Wizards if Beal & Porter turnout to be more late 1st rounders rather than elite Top - 3 picks. I'd be happy if just one of them turns-out to be semi-elite.


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[hands11]

Ok Mr Beal.. Time to dial it up..your teams needs you.

To start the year after missing the first 9 games and a lot of the summer, he went 5-8 from 3 over his first 2 games back. He then went 1-8 over the next three. Then his went on a tear.

Dec he shot .471 from 3 on 4.4 attempts.
Jan he shot .432 from 3 on 4.4 attempts

He did that until he got injured again. Two games back 1-9. Third game 2-4 then out again. Then two games 0-5.

So he is primed for a break out and rising back to this averages.

I want to see DEC/JAN Beal only I want closer to 6 attempts a game. Do that Mr Beal, and this team will take it to another level as the floor will open up more for Wall.

Keep your foot work tight. Be decisive. Get that 3 up quick. And shoot it even if they are closing on you. Don't put it on the floor so much to drive. And show us a pump fake, stand still, pump and then jump into the closing player for the 3FTAs. Yes, show us some Webby/PP from 3 moves.

Hopefully PP helps by getting up 4-8 threes as well.

If they play the way they have the last two games and Beal returns to his norm, they will take another step as a team and look much more playoff ready. A place Beal shined last year.

[Ruzious]

Cheaney's best season (his second) wasn't as good as Beal's rookie season, which is Beal's least productive (at least so far).

And Cheaney's a good example of why we can't assume young wing players will improve.

[hands11]

Cheaney's best season (his second) wasn't as good as Beal's rookie season, which is Beal's least productive (at least so far).

And Cheaney's a good example of why we can't assume young wing players will improve.

But....

He did improve.

Ended up playing like 9 session at TS .600

And was moved to PG and was 2003-04 NBA Finals MVP and won a title.

Did you mean to use green font in your post ?

[Ruzious]

Cheaney's best season (his second) wasn't as good as Beal's rookie season, which is Beal's least productive (at least so far).

And Cheaney's a good example of why we can't assume young wing players will improve.

But....

He did improve.

Ended up playing like 9 session at TS .600

And was moved to PG and was 2003-04 NBA Finals MVP and won a title.

Did you mean to use green font in your post ?

You haven't by any chance gotten Cal Cheaney mixed up with Chauncey Billups; have you?

I'm sure people do that all the time.

[AFM]

And Cheaney's a good example of why we can't assume young wing players will improve.

But....

He did improve.

Ended up playing like 9 session at TS .600

And was moved to PG and was 2003-04 NBA Finals MVP and won a title.

Did you mean to use green font in your post ?

You haven't by any chance gotten Cal Cheaney mixed up with Chauncey Billups; have you?

I'm sure people do that all the time.

Cal "Cheancey" Billups. You don't know him?

[tontoz]

Hands is still the undisputed king of unintentional comedy.

[Dark Faze]

brad got like...25 games or whatever before i throw him in the bushes

one thing nobody talks about is how his defense has fallen off a bridge this year too, he's statistically an all around worse player right now than his rookie year...

[DANNYLANDOVER]

I was never in favor of drafting him and will be beyond pissed if we paid him like an all star. Would rather have Wesley Matthews tbh.

[Kanyewest]

I was never in favor of drafting him and will be beyond pissed if we paid him like an all star. Would rather have Wesley Matthews tbh.

You mean pre-achilles injury Wes Matthews?

[hands11]

And Cheaney's a good example of why we can't assume young wing players will improve.

But....

He did improve.

Ended up playing like 9 session at TS .600

And was moved to PG and was 2003-04 NBA Finals MVP and won a title.

Did you mean to use green font in your post ?

You haven't by any chance gotten Cal Cheaney mixed up with Chauncey Billups; have you?

I'm sure people do that all the time.

Good thing I didnt write something obnoxious and I asked .. lol

Yeah.. at a glance, without a first name there and given past conversations about Chauncey, that is who I thought.

As for Beal. I have not idea that is going on with him right now. Dude shot two air balls. Its got to be mental. And to that, this team has been pretty mental when it comes to their outside shooting. Rasual talks about it here.

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos/consor-one-on-one-with-rasual-butler-3-14-15

[Ruzious]

But....

He did improve.

Ended up playing like 9 session at TS .600

And was moved to PG and was 2003-04 NBA Finals MVP and won a title.

Did you mean to use green font in your post ?

You haven't by any chance gotten Cal Cheaney mixed up with Chauncey Billups; have you?

I'm sure people do that all the time.

Good thing I didnt write something obnoxious and I asked .. lol

Yeah.. at a glance, without a first name there and give past conversations about Chauncey, that is who I thought.

As for Beal. I have not idea that is going on with him right now. Dude shot two air balls. Its got to be mental. And to that, this team has been pretty mental when it comes to their outside shooting. Rasual talks about it here.

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos/consor-one-on-one-with-rasual-butler-3-14-15

No problem - I've messed up names here before, but I assumed you were a long-time Bullets fan more familiar with Calbert Cheaney.

[hands11]

Oh... I remember Calbert Cheaney.

I just don't see his name mentioned often.. lol

Specially just his last name.

[stevemcqueen1]

Kid's going to be an All Star in a year or two and I'm going to recusitate the last few pages of this thread for the **** smorgasbord of crow that will be served.