Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

[pcbothwel]

WOW, Lance to Charlotte for 3/27, with last year a team option. Excellent contract, and a big blow to Indy, who lost creativity, ball handling, and athleticism.

Charlotte could be nasty good. Is there a more fearsome defensive wing duo than Lance and MKG? They are going to be a tough, tough matchup.

Yeah, but Walker Stephenson MKG...oh the Spacing

[Severn Hoos]

Pacers offered Lance, 5 years $44 million.

So he effectively left 2 years and $17 million on the table to LEAVE Indiana. Wow.

Obviously the chemistry there went south.

Actually, I see it as he is making more money over the next 3 years, then becomes a FA again (while still relatively young) under the new TV contract.

Yes, he's giving up a bit of security, but unless he goes south in the next 3 years, he's likely to make far more money overall. And given that he's going to a team that is bereft of scorers, he should be able to have some great stats to offer when he does become a FA again.

And, needless to say, he has a pretty high level of confidence in himself, so not surprised he would bet on himself doing well and earning a bigger payday in '16 or '17.

[dlts20]

I think lance went to the Hornets for a few reasons. Short contract to get better and make more money. Bigger role. Going to play for MJ which seems like a big deal to alot of kids because there parents idolized him. Most of all I honestly believe he felt disrespected by Indy and felt he deserved more so if anything was close then he would rather go somewhere else and say F-U

[nate33]

Could the Rockets have offered Parsons an extension if they had excercised his option?

It seems that would have avoided the risk of losing him and given them a way to reward him for dramatically out-earning his contract. If they had extra cap space this season, they could have renegotiated this season and saved themselves some money in the future years.

The move would have looked genius if Bosh had signed with them, they could have immediately offered Parsons a 5 year deal which would have spread out his salary cap hit(probably ultimately a deal not too different from what Gortat got). However it looks like they may have taken an unecessary risk.

Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have exercised his option. It was for less than $1 million. You make the Lin and Asik trades and it's $17 million off the books.

They would probably not guarantee a couple of contracts and they could have offered Bosh the $75 mil over 5 years. I think Morey didn't think Lebron would leave, hence thought he didn't have a shot. So when he did, he already made Parsons a RFA, Cuban gave him an offer sheet and the rest is history.

They still could only have offered Bosh 4 years.

In hindsight, sure, HOU would have preferred having Parsons essentially for free if just for a year than to losing him for nothing, but I understand why they did what they did. They gambled big and lost this time. It happens.

I'm not letting Morey off the hook quite so easily. He really botched it this offseason. He should have recognized the number of teams with cap room would bit up the value of free agents. If he wasn't willing to match Parsons at a near-max salary, then he shouldn't have declined the Team Option in the first place. The uncertainty around Parsons forced him to rush Bosh into making a decision and he ultimately lost Bosh too.

I'll give him a pass on the dumping of Lin and Asik. He got value for Asik and he was probably going to lose them both next year anyhow.

[penbeast0]

Another layer to the Wiz-Cavs rivalry, not to mention Drew Gooden.

It feels so awesome to hate the Cavs again!

The young backcourts, Lebron-Pierce, the 2013 draft busts, the Brazilian bigs, Miller and Gooden, former Cavs Andre Miller and coach Witt, fishercob vs. his inlaws!

Let's kill these guys!!!!

We could pick up the amnestied Carlos Boozer for our big man rotation too. Cleveland HATES him!

[tontoz]

I'm not letting Morey off the hook quite so easily. He really botched it this offseason. He should have recognized the number of teams with cap room would bit up the value of free agents. If he wasn't willing to match Parsons at a near-max salary, then he shouldn't have declined the Team Option in the first place. The uncertainty around Parsons forced him to rush Bosh into making a decision and he ultimately lost Bosh too.

I'll give him a pass on the dumping of Lin and Asik. He got value for Asik and he was probably going to lose them both next year anyhow.

The rumor is that letting Parsons opt out was a condition of the Howard signing. Howard and Parsons have the same agent.

[verbal8]

Someone will make an amnesty claim on Boozer. The Wizards can not, because they do not have cap space.

Another layer to the Wiz-Cavs rivalry, not to mention Drew Gooden.

It feels so awesome to hate the Cavs again!

The young backcourts, Lebron-Pierce, the 2013 draft busts, the Brazilian bigs, Miller and Gooden, former Cavs Andre Miller and coach Witt, fishercob vs. his inlaws!

Let's kill these guys!!!!

We could pick up the amnestied Carlos Boozer for our big man rotation too. Cleveland HATES him!

[Hypnotizer]

Mavericks add veteran Rashard Lewis

[pcbothwel]

Dont get me wrong. I like the Blair and Humphries pick ups, but there really redundant players and it hurts a little to see Ed Davis go to the Lakers on a 2yr / 2M deal. Now that is a friggin' steal.

Also, Stuckey to the Pacers for 1 year vet min is a steal too.

[Kanyewest]

I'm not letting Morey off the hook quite so easily. He really botched it this offseason. He should have recognized the number of teams with cap room would bit up the value of free agents. If he wasn't willing to match Parsons at a near-max salary, then he shouldn't have declined the Team Option in the first place. The uncertainty around Parsons forced him to rush Bosh into making a decision and he ultimately lost Bosh too.

I'll give him a pass on the dumping of Lin and Asik. He got value for Asik and he was probably going to lose them both next year anyhow.

The rumor is that letting Parsons opt out was a condition of the Howard signing. Howard and Parsons have the same agent.

Looks like Dwight Howard's agent screwed him over since he will no longer be playing with Parsons.

[bealwithit]

Dont get me wrong. I like the Blair and Humphries pick ups, but there really redundant players and it hurts a little to see Ed Davis go to the Lakers on a 2yr / 2M deal. Now that is a friggin' steal.

Also, Stuckey to the Pacers for 1 year vet min is a steal too.

I wanted Ed (especially on that contract, damn) too but I don't think Kris and Blair are redundant players. Kris is a solid midrange shooter and good rebounder, Blair provides energy off the bench giving maximum effort and also rebounds well. Also figures out a way to score inside.

Ed has more potential than Blair but Kris is a better player than Ed is right now. You could make a good argument for either side.

[Benjammin]

I think Ed might have a wink-wink deal going on there potentially.

[deneem4]

Ed wants playing time...he will definitely get it over there

[hands11]

Dont get me wrong. I like the Blair and Humphries pick ups, but there really redundant players and it hurts a little to see Ed Davis go to the Lakers on a 2yr / 2M deal. Now that is a friggin' steal.

Also, Stuckey to the Pacers for 1 year vet min is a steal too.

And we have officially entered the bargain phase of free agency.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ith-Lakers

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Dont get me wrong. I like the Blair and Humphries pick ups, but there really redundant players and it hurts a little to see Ed Davis go to the Lakers on a 2yr / 2M deal. Now that is a friggin' steal.

Also, Stuckey to the Pacers for 1 year vet min is a steal too.

And we have officially entered the bargain phase of free agency.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... ith-Lakers

I wanted Stuckey here. I would've been happy if we signed him to the other half of Ariza's TPE.
But that is a real good situation for him to go to.

[FAH1223]

I don't see how Stuckey makes the Pacers better. I guess he can replace Lance's slashing ability.

But they are so devoid of playmaking. Their offense is going to suck even more.

George Hill needs to return to being the 15 and 5 kind of player he was a couple years ago.

Or maybe they need to play CJ Watson more....

[MDStar]

Is it just me or is a majority of contracts being given out, essentially a two year contracts? Seems like half the league will be free agents in 2016.

[Ruzious]

I don't see how Stuckey makes the Pacers better. I guess he can replace Lance's slashing ability.

But they are so devoid of playmaking. Their offense is going to suck even more.

George Hill needs to return to being the 15 and 5 kind of player he was a couple years ago.

Or maybe they need to play CJ Watson more....

Stuckey is a nice player when he's got the ball in his hands and attacks, but playing off the ball - he's completely ineffective because of a poor jump shot. Indy might be able to use him more effectively than Detroit did the last 2 seasons. Playing with Hill might help. Stuckey's game is a lot like Richardson's stylistically - just not as good.

[Rafael122]

Is it just me or is a majority of contracts being given out, essentially a two year contracts? Seems like half the league will be free agents in 2016.

Yeah it's by design. I mentioned yesterday that if Love were traded, it would be wise if he opted in on the last year and become a free agent in 2016. I think it would be asinine if he signed an extension now and risk losing millions, even if he's already making a ton of it. I think teams are betting on the cap soaring. Gortat's contract is going to look like a bargain in a few years, especially if the cap is at $85 million.

[LyricalRico]

I don't see how Stuckey makes the Pacers better. I guess he can replace Lance's slashing ability.

But they are so devoid of playmaking. Their offense is going to suck even more.

George Hill needs to return to being the 15 and 5 kind of player he was a couple years ago.

Or maybe they need to play CJ Watson more....

It will also be interesting to see which Roy Hibbert shows up next season. If he's effective enough in the post that they can run a lot of sets through him, they'll still be good. But if the Hibbert from the second half of last season is here to stay, that will essentially mean they've lost two guys - Stephenson and the Hibbert they thought they were getting when they re-signed him.