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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1281 » by penbeast0 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:25 pm

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If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). We are 8th in line in priority for claiming him off of waivers (behind SAS, DET, CHA, POR, HOU, ORL and IND). Of the 7 teams in front of us, only Portland looks like they can use him as much as we can. Both Portland and us have cap exceptions available to use in signing him.

If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.


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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1282 » by dckingsfan » Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:54 pm

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penbeast0 wrote:Now Garuba has been waived and can be picked up if we wish. We suspected it would happen but it wasn't formal until now.


Man, I hope they do. I have watched some of Spain's FIBA WC friendlies and he is a defensive beast and has displayed good basketball IQ. He has 2 more years left of rookie contract and I think he is worth a shot. As far as I know, he was given very limited opportunities in Houston to show what he can do. He could make a great small ball C: he can defend both the perimeter and the rim and has quite good court vision. He can also shoot the 3.


If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). We are 8th in line in priority for claiming him off of waivers (behind SAS, DET, CHA, POR, HOU, ORL and IND). Of the 7 teams in front of us, only Portland looks like they can use him as much as we can. Both Portland and us have cap exceptions available to use in signing him.

If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.

Garuba is a pretty smart player - hope he doesn't go to SAS under Pop.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1283 » by payitforward » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:24 pm

nate33 wrote:
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penbeast0 wrote:Now Garuba has been waived and can be picked up if we wish. We suspected it would happen but it wasn't formal until now.

Probably would have been foolish to trade Kispert for those dudes, huh?

I wish I could and-one this more than once.

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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1284 » by payitforward » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:34 pm

nate33 wrote:If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). ...If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.

A minimum contract for a guy with as little service as Garuba has had would cost us, what... about $1.5m?

If so, then picking him up immediately would cost us @ an extra $1m. Given how low our salary load is, if we like him enough to pick up after he clears waivers, it seems like we might as well pick him up right now....
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1285 » by nate33 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:47 pm

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nate33 wrote:If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). ...If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.

A minimum contract for a guy with as little service as Garuba has had would cost us, what... about $1.5m?

If so, then picking him up immediately would cost us @ an extra $1m. Given how low our salary load is, if we like him enough to pick up after he clears waivers, it seems like we might as well pick him up right now....

Agreed.

And I like that we would retain team control of him next year, and still have RFA rights after that. If Garuba develops a respectable offensive game and suddenly becomes the next Adebayo (or more realistically, the next Okongwu), it would be nice to have the means of ensuring that he stays with the Wizards.
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Post#1286 » by popper » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:49 pm

Yes, claim him if he clears to us. Perfect small ball switchable defensive center.
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Post#1287 » by gambitx777 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:28 am

I'm not a huge gurabba guy but when we have cooks and gill who are inexpensive to cut and pretty worthless value wise and a 2 way spot open it makes sense to try and get a young guy like gurabba or tyty.

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Post#1288 » by 9 and 20 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:46 am

Who needs Garuba when we have a chance to re-live the Javale McGee glory years. Bring back Nick Young too and they can start doing their show again. Let Terd brand it with Monumental brand souvlaki.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1289 » by dckingsfan » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:27 pm

nate33 wrote:
Frichuela wrote:
penbeast0 wrote:Now Garuba has been waived and can be picked up if we wish. We suspected it would happen but it wasn't formal until now.


Man, I hope they do. I have watched some of Spain's FIBA WC friendlies and he is a defensive beast and has displayed good basketball IQ. He has 2 more years left of rookie contract and I think he is worth a shot. As far as I know, he was given very limited opportunities in Houston to show what he can do. He could make a great small ball C: he can defend both the perimeter and the rim and has quite good court vision. He can also shoot the 3.


If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). We are 8th in line in priority for claiming him off of waivers (behind SAS, DET, CHA, POR, HOU, ORL and IND). Of the 7 teams in front of us, only Portland looks like they can use him as much as we can. Both Portland and us have cap exceptions available to use in signing him.

If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.

Any more on this? What is the process for the teams ahead of us to pass an Garuba?
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1290 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:44 pm

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Man, I hope they do. I have watched some of Spain's FIBA WC friendlies and he is a defensive beast and has displayed good basketball IQ. He has 2 more years left of rookie contract and I think he is worth a shot. As far as I know, he was given very limited opportunities in Houston to show what he can do. He could make a great small ball C: he can defend both the perimeter and the rim and has quite good court vision. He can also shoot the 3.


If I understand the waivers process correctly, if we pick him up immediately, we will take on his existing contract ($2.6M this year, and a team option at $4.4M next year). We are 8th in line in priority for claiming him off of waivers (behind SAS, DET, CHA, POR, HOU, ORL and IND). Of the 7 teams in front of us, only Portland looks like they can use him as much as we can. Both Portland and us have cap exceptions available to use in signing him.

If we wait for him to clear waivers, we could sign him to a vet minimum deal or a 2-way contract. But we would have to gamble that none of the other 29 teams in the league will claim him off of waivers.

Any more on this? What is the process for the teams ahead of us to pass an Garuba?

I think there is a 48-hour waivers period. Any team that wants to claim him on waivers has to file with the league. If nobody submits a claim, he clears waivers and becomes an unrestricted free agent, free to sign with anyone he chooses.

The fact that we haven't heard anything suggests that nobody is willing to claim him and pay his existing contract.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1291 » by BearlyBallin » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:37 am

Read on Twitter
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I thought someone would have claimed him, but I obviously know nothing lol :lol:
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1292 » by gambitx777 » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:20 am

BearlyBallin wrote:
Read on Twitter
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I thought someone would have claimed him, but I obviously know nothing lol
I mean someone might be putting in a last minute claim lol. I mean he'll go to a team like the bucks or Lakers if he hits the open market I imagine.

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Post#1293 » by payitforward » Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:47 pm

It amazes me that a 21-year old kid who was taken #23 in the draft 2 years ago & has played only 1200 minutes would wash out of the league.

Garuba has shown himself to be an outstanding rebounder, especially on the offensive end, & has gotten steals & blocks at an above-average rate. Just like scoring the ball, those things have a significant positive impact on winning basketball games.

Go figure....
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Post#1294 » by Frichuela » Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:58 pm

Come on new FO, we need you to sign Usman quick! Give him a similar contract to what Cooks was given with this year guaranteed and team options thereafter. Nothing to lose!!!
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Post#1295 » by gambitx777 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:36 am

I am not high at all on gurabba or tyty but I'd give both a shot we need talent and youth. I'd take flyers on them but we really need to move wright, Gallo, muscala, Gill and cooks. Either in trades or releases .

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Post#1296 » by closg00 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:56 pm

gambitx777 wrote:I am not high at all on gurabba or tyty but I'd give both a shot we need talent and youth. I'd take flyers on them but we really need to move wright, Gallo, muscala, Gill and cooks. Either in trades or releases .

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As an end-of-bencher, Garuba > Gill/Cooks, both will be gone sooner or later (acknowledging that he has not made in Houston/OKC)
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1297 » by Frichuela » Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:04 pm

closg00 wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:I am not high at all on gurabba or tyty but I'd give both a shot we need talent and youth. I'd take flyers on them but we really need to move wright, Gallo, muscala, Gill and cooks. Either in trades or releases .

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As an end-of-bencher, Garuba > Gill/Cooks, both will be gone sooner or later


Such a no brainer but our FO seems quiet...I wonder if they have an ace up their sleeve...

Maybe they are waiting for a potential trade for someone at center who is still young but more established, someone like Jarrett Allen, where we trade them 2 players for him...and we sort out our player glut at the same time.

Having said this, If it was up to me, I would have scooped up Garuba quick!
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Post#1298 » by doclinkin » Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:41 pm

Frichuela wrote:Such a no brainer but our FO seems quiet...I wonder if they have an ace up their sleeve...


Every FO is quiet. I think teams are waiting on September when team practices are allowed, to see what they need. Meanwhile teams are scouting international talent at FIBA games.

It's boring. I have scraped the bottom barrel of the internet. Nothing in there. I've moved on to audiobooks and working on fiction.
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Re: Official 2023 Wizards OFFSEASON Thread 

Post#1299 » by Rafael122 » Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:25 pm

doclinkin wrote:
Frichuela wrote:Such a no brainer but our FO seems quiet...I wonder if they have an ace up their sleeve...


Every FO is quiet. I think teams are waiting on September when team practices are allowed, to see what they need. Meanwhile teams are scouting international talent at FIBA games.

It's boring. I have scraped the bottom barrel of the internet. Nothing in there. I've moved on to audiobooks and working on fiction.


Essentially the league shuts down like a week or 2 after Vegas summer league. I reckon things will probably pick up over the next couple of weeks. Training camp started 9/24 last year so we're about a month out.
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Post#1300 » by AFM » Fri Aug 25, 2023 8:30 pm

Since this board is quiet rn… thoughts on this random writer’s proposal?

https://nbaanalysis.net/2023/08/23/nba-trade-rumors-utah-jazz-washington-wizards-kyle-kuzma-laur-markkanen-jordan-poole-walker-kessler-proposal-news/

Washington Wizards receive: F/C John Collins, 2025 First-Round Pick (CLE via UTA)

Utah Jazz receive: F Kyle Kuzma

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