The Washington Commanders Thread

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Perhaps the secret to success is to start cutting dudes.

I was of the opinion that we went way to heavy on journey men in the off season. We really needed to go for big worth while talent and youth and potential. Chris rod is 24 and showed glimpses. It made 0 sense to start the season with mcnicols on the team. It was silly. Going into the season with a 1 24 year old rookie and no youth or potential in the practice squad was silly. Keeping Bates over the 24 year old Cole Turner being on the PS is stupid. Why didn't we give jacksaint another look hes 22, had some good moments in pre season and we wasted a PS spot on a. 29 year old for months. Tinsley, Allen and thermyne are on the practice squad and should all have been given chances over brown, spacious and crowder. I understand the idea of bringing vets but you have terry, you brought in ertz and eckler. The journymen no body's and never wases were stupid choices.

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I think going heavy on journeymen was intentional. I think DQ wanted to bring in some of his guys to set the tempo and the attitude of the locker room, but I don't even think they had themselves winning 8+ games this season. That's why the holes are even more glaring and obvious because if we were just going to win 5-6 games, no big deal...rookie QB, 1st year with the coaching staff, etc. 8 wins? Now it's like "yeah maybe we should have signed better receivers." But who would have known they would have this much success this early? I expect them to be major players in free agency though, tight end/receiver/edge rusher are probably the biggest needs.

I don't know.

When I was in the military, I recall that continuity was valued. There were standard operational procedures. It was much better when someone in the unit already knew the SOPs and the file plan. Units had a culture that started with the leader, the command OIC and NCOIC. It was common for new leadership to bring in people they previously worked with.

I can see why coaches would lean toward proven veterans over potentially more talented youth. It has to be a tough call on cut down day.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Perhaps the secret to success is to start cutting dudes.

I was of the opinion that we went way to heavy on journey men in the off season. We really needed to go for big worth while talent and youth and potential. Chris rod is 24 and showed glimpses. It made 0 sense to start the season with mcnicols on the team. It was silly. Going into the season with a 1 24 year old rookie and no youth or potential in the practice squad was silly. Keeping Bates over the 24 year old Cole Turner being on the PS is stupid. Why didn't we give jacksaint another look hes 22, had some good moments in pre season and we wasted a PS spot on a. 29 year old for months. Tinsley, Allen and thermyne are on the practice squad and should all have been given chances over brown, spacious and crowder. I understand the idea of bringing vets but you have terry, you brought in ertz and eckler. The journymen no body's and never wases were stupid choices.

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I think going heavy on journeymen was intentional. I think DQ wanted to bring in some of his guys to set the tempo and the attitude of the locker room, but I don't even think they had themselves winning 8+ games this season. That's why the holes are even more glaring and obvious because if we were just going to win 5-6 games, no big deal...rookie QB, 1st year with the coaching staff, etc. 8 wins? Now it's like "yeah maybe we should have signed better receivers." But who would have known they would have this much success this early? I expect them to be major players in free agency though, tight end/receiver/edge rusher are probably the biggest needs.

Quinn's approach has him 8-5. I'm overjoyed with it. Missteps and all.

He appears willing to make necessary adjustments. He has a happy team with a dynamic QB. What more could we hope for?

Free agent receivers will line up to play for this team.

[Tyrone Messby]

4 of our losses are to pretty good teams and we could’ve easily walked away with wins vs Philly and Pitt if Jayden weren’t banged up and we had actually made them pay for their turnovers, etc. the only real bad loss is the Dallas Cowboys. That one was inexcusable.

Ravens
Steelers
Eagles
Surging Bucs team

I think we wax the Saints after the bye with Lattimore making his debut. Very happy the Saints lost yesterday because it basically eliminates them from playoff contention. They could’ve had some hope had they won because Atlanta is self destructing.

Like us against the Falcons (maybe Penix is starting by then?)

Get Philly in the rematch and then take out the Cowboys. Finish 12-5 boom!

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[Rafael122]

4 of our losses are to pretty good teams and we could’ve easily walked away with wins vs Philly and Pitt if Jayden weren’t banged up and we had actually made them pay for their turnovers, etc. the only real bad loss is the Dallas Cowboys. That one was inexcusable.

Ravens
Steelers
Eagles
Surging Bucs team

I think we wax the Saints after the bye with Lattimore making his debut. Very happy the Saints lost yesterday because it basically eliminates them from playoff contention. They could’ve had some hope had they won because Atlanta is self destructing.

Like us against the Falcons (maybe Penix is starting by then?)

Get Philly in the rematch and then take out the Cowboys. Finish 12-5 boom!

If the playoffs started today, we'd play the Eagles in the 2-7 matchup and Philly looks to be on their way to winning the division. Our best bet is to catch the Packers or Vikings to see if we can get the 3-6 or 4-5 matchup. I don't know if that's possible at this stage. That loss against Dallas stings quite a bit because we probably would have topped out at 11 wins. Minnesota already has 10 wins, but they play Atlanta, Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle and Detroit as their last 5 games.

Green Bay has Detroit and Seattle the next two weeks. Minnesota I believe Week 17.

It's tough sledding. Next week we'll need Minnesota, and Green Bay to lose.

[gambitx777]

I could see us finishing 3-1 for the last 4 unless we perform how we should and really out play the eagles.

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[dobrojim]

The Eagles are looking strong. The Lions could beat them. I doubt the 'Manders could.
But anything can happen in one game.

[Kanyewest]

The Eagles are looking strong. The Lions could beat them. I doubt the 'Manders could.
But anything can happen in one game.

It would be fun to see the Ben Johnson / Commanders beef resurface into a competitive game although the lions are looking strong

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Yep. At this point, about the best we can hope for is moving to #6 in the conference and avoiding Philly or Detroit in the first round.

I'd love to play one of: The Bucs/Falcons/Seahawks in the first round. The dream scenario would then be for Philly to be seeded #1 and we get them in round #2. They are beatable. I don't think Detroit is beatable in Detroit.

[gambitx777]

Starting my NFL draft research now. Who should we be targeting?


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[Dark Faze]

Starting my NFL draft research now. Who should we be targeting?


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There's some good coverage here:

https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/12/4/24310665/future-hogs-week-14-a-look-at-college-football-players-who-could-help-the-washington-commanders

A name I think is missing from the above list that seems like it makes sense is RB Ashton Jeanty. He's ranked #1 at his position and given he's a running back he's likely to be available in the low 20's when we pick. This team sucks when the running game is bad. Ekeler has injury concerns now and as much as we like BRob there's been some scares with him also. Having the top rated RB in the country would probably provide the most day 1 value at our draft spot because the season will end instantly if our RB group is decimated.

[Tyrone Messby]

Starting my NFL draft research now. Who should we be targeting?


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This is a very weak draft for first round talent. I like the RB from Boise move but doubt we do it. We need WRs badly.

[popper]

Starting my NFL draft research now. Who should we be targeting?


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There's some good coverage here:

https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/12/4/24310665/future-hogs-week-14-a-look-at-college-football-players-who-could-help-the-washington-commanders

A name I think is missing from the above list that seems like it makes sense is RB Ashton Jeanty. He's ranked #1 at his position and given he's a running back he's likely to be available in the low 20's when we pick. This team sucks when the running game is bad. Ekeler has injury concerns now and as much as we like BRob there's been some scares with him also. Having the top rated RB in the country would probably provide the most day 1 value at our draft spot because the season will end instantly if our RB group is decimated.

Jeanty will be long gone by the time we pick. He's about to break Barry Sanders
35 year old record for most yards in a college season (2,628).

[TGW]

I really like Luther Burden in the first. I like his combination of play speed, strength, and YAC ability. I also like Tyler Warren as a TE1 to replace Ertz. Lots of holes to fill, especially on offense. Also need edge rusher. I'm definitely in favor of trading down for more picks.

[gambitx777]

RB is clearly the best position
Jenty will be long gone.

So if we go with the in the second round or even the first
Dylan Sampson
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Dylan-Sampson-RB-Tennessee

Jordan James
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jordan-James-RB-Oregon

Nicholas Singleton
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Nicholas-Singleton-RB-PennState

All young and all run around 4.4 or better with good size. Big fast young lead back caliber guys.

Now we is a weaker spot this year so maybe go WR first unless you think it levels out in the third and you can get similar talent in the 7th with your late picks.

Isaiah Bond
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Isaiah-Bond-WR-Alabama

Evan Stewart
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Evan-Stewart-WR-TexasAANDM

Jalen Royals
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jalen-Royals-WR-UtahState

Id like in the 20s if we go WR first off.
There are some older slower prospect with better numbers but they might fall. And there will be guys that sink just because they are too slow.

Like
Tai Felton
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Tai-Felton-WR-Maryland

He got the size and hands and production but God is he slow. Might be a good pick up late if he fails to hit a good 40 at the combine.

Then you got guys with out production but you can see the potential when we have 3 7 th round picks.

Jaden Bray
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jaden-Bray-WR-OklahomaState

Rara Thomas
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Rara-Thomas-WR-MississippiState

Demod Demas.
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Demond-Demas-WR-TexasAANDM

TE isn't a position I would draft this year we have some young TE on the team that are fine for now. Ertz might have a year or two left, Turner should replace Bates, sinot and yankoff should get a chance to show what they can do.

This is a good year for special teams and we have plenty of 7th taking a kicker would be fine.

That's just skill potions

We have 3 7th round picks which we might end up with more. some back up QB options on day three in the mold of Jayden.

Jaylen Daniels
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jalon-Daniels-QB-Kansas

Taylen green
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Taylen-Green-QB-BoiseState

Haynes king
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Haynes-King-QB-TexasAANDM

Projects but big arms and good running abilities in the same mold that could in theory be poor men Jaydens if he were to go out for a game or two.

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[Tyrone Messby]

Mason Taylor would be a big get at TE. He was severely underutilized at LSU. Kyren Lacy would be a good WR to get in the second or third. Not nearly the WR Nabers or Brian Thomas are but has BTs size.

[Rafael122]

Playoff seeding update: Packers lost to the Lions last night. If they lose to the Seahawks next week, and Washington beats the Saints, then we'll be in the 6th spot by virtue of conference record.

We'll need Minnesota to lose against the Falcons just so that the Vikings are still within arm's reach.

[W. Unseld]

New Eckler would be out, that's definitely the right decision for his health, but Noah Brown hurts as we have nothing after Terry in terms of WR threats. Brown was at least mostly solid.

[tontoz]

New Eckler would be out, that's definitely the right decision for his health, but Noah Brown hurts as we have nothing after Terry in terms of WR threats. Brown was at least mostly solid.

Time for Luke to get some targets. Apparently he has been getting open.

[LyricalRico]

Playoff seeding update: Packers lost to the Lions last night. If they lose to the Seahawks next week, and Washington beats the Saints, then we'll be in the 6th spot by virtue of conference record.

We'll need Minnesota to lose against the Falcons just so that the Vikings are still within arm's reach.