2025 Draft Thread

[9 and 20]

If we lose that Memphis pick and end up out of the lottery with our own pick, I will lose my damn mind. Gotta be some way to blame Grundle if that happens. Will most definitely pin it on Terd's stench and karma for the ridiculous Potomac Yards/Alexandria plans.

[9 and 20]

You sure Mobley is a better player than Allen? If so... what makes you think so?

Eye test and Mobley was a higher draft pick.

I'm pretty sure most people would respond more or less the way you did. &, for sure, these are two extremely good players.

But, if you judge between them objectively (i.e. based on numbers not one's opinion of their "floor routine") Jarrett Allen is pretty clearly just that much better.

Put it another way: if you look at everything but scoring, there's no debate -- Jarrett Allen is decidedly the better. If you look at scoring alone, Mobley scores 5 more points per 40 minutes than Allen, but he uses 6 more possessions to produce those 5 more points. The delta in scoring isn't establishing superiority.

Again, these are both extremely good players! I'm not critiqueing Evan Mobley!

Chum partially snapped up but was expecting more of a full on rant. +1 for holding back (a bit).

[Dark Faze]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

[Hibachi_0]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

I actually feel like Dylan and Bub could be a really nice fit. Being Dylan the ball dominant / defense bending guard and Bub taking advantage of playing more off ball. He hasn't shown the skillset to break defenses on his own, but he's smart and makes the right play. If you take off the pressure of making things happen with the ball (something Harper is great at) I think Bub can thrive.

[nate33]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

Yes. I definitely think it's possible they take Bailey over Harper. It would really boil down to their scouting, but in theory, the idea of a pure 1st option scorer like Bailey might fill a need even more than Harper.

[AFM]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

Yes. I definitely think it's possible they take Bailey over Harper. It would really boil down to their scouting, but in theory, the idea of a pure 1st option scorer like Bailey might fill a need even more than Harper.

Isn't Bailey more their physical type? He has a 7' wingspan

Harper has good size too though.

[tontoz]

Taking Bailey over Harper would be an idiotic blunder. I like Ace but he isn't close to Harper as a prospect. I have Ace at 3 but Harper is on a different tier.

[dobrojim]

Harper has consistently been ranked at 2nd. That
may or may not mean anything depending on how
favorably you rate Ace. Personally I think I'd take
Harper.

[BearlyBallin]

Tankathon must be over heated tonight.

I got:
Harper/Sorber
Harper/Fleming
Flagg/Sorber
Followed by a lot of Jakuncionis/Gonzales lol

[Dat2U]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

Oh no. Dylan is a 6-6 shot creator and big time slasher & finisher. You grab him if your lucky enough to have the chance to.

He's also versatile enough to play on or off the ball. While not being an elite defender, he is theoretically is quick enough to guard 1s and strong enough to guard 2s.

I think in time he could play with either Poole or Carrington or Smart and be fine.

[dobrojim]

I may have already posted this but the 6ers FRP
is protected 1-6. They are currently 5th. Not
much margin when the balls come out. Maybe
they'll get lucky.

[tontoz]

Not sure if this has been posted yet.

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[payitforward]

I may have already posted this but the 6ers FRP
is protected 1-6. They are currently 5th. Not
much margin when the balls come out. Maybe
they'll get lucky.

But... this doesn't affect us.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Flagg or Bailey would be outstanding given the current roster construction. If somehow Wizards land the #3 pick with Harper still on the board I'd trade the pick. If they could somehow trade back a few spots and get an unprotected 2026 from a bad team that would be ideal. Depending how the lottery goes I could see both the Nets and Pelicans be willing to make that trade since they both need a PG and there's a very good chance both teams are bad enough next year where their pick is top 10 in a filthy loaded draft class.

[AFM]

Trade back, take queen, sell shares to Melo, go full BALTIMORE CHARM CITY MODE

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Thomas Sorber has declared for the draft. Basically if we draft anyone other than Maluach with the top pick, he absolutely becomes a target for this team with our 2nd pick.

This team NEEDS interior muscle. We NEED rebounding. We need someone who can set screens and pass out of the high post. Sorber checks all of these boxes.

For the people who don’t want to use a top 5 pick on a Center, this is an alternative solution picking in the 20-23 range. As far as what this team looks for… young (19), long, good defensively, coachable, high IQ, passing & vision. And every Georgetown game I watched this year at some point the announcer would chime in something to the effect of: As good of a player as Sorber is, he’s an even better person…. Something I’ve heard Dawkins offer up several times as a key component of their player evaluations.

Sorber would be a perfect tone setter with his strength inside, boxing out, craftiness down low, controlling the boards, allowing Sarr to freelance and weak side rim protect.

Agreed on the concept. I want a big switchable 4/5 who defends the interior and rebounds well. I've got a handful of guys I'd like in that spot. But Sorber is near the top.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=rasheer-fleming--yaxel-lendeborg--collin-murray-boyles--thomas-sorber

Sorber.
Agreed he is likely the player the FO would target at this spot. Youth and upside being the key reason. Solid as they come. Smart. His jumper looks functional though he has no range or confidence in it right now. He's the best of this bunch already in blocks steals etc. His freshman stats are better than CMB which says a lot. Question marks? At times his lateral footspeed looks a tad slow, at least when it comes to defending in space. Functional for a 4/5 but I can see teams hoping to switch a quicker forward onto him if they can draw him outside the paint. That said his assist rate forecasts solid defense and he already plays like a veteran, he'll only get smarter with reps. I like him in that 23 range, though I think he goes higher. He has hidden athleticism he didn't really have to display this year. Room to get much stronger.

Fleming.
Tankathon has Fleming one pick ahead of Sorber. But if Sorber is healthy enough to work out with teams or at the combine athletic testing I think he shows out and climbs the draft chart. Either way, I'm happy with whichever falls to our pick if that's how it plays out. Rasheer is an older player than the others in this bunch (though only 5 months older than the freshman Derik Queen). However he's still developing swiftly. He has the exact profile I like to see in NCAA prospects: his key stats get solidly better every year. When a player's FT % takes a jump you know you have a gym rat. He's up to the mid 70% now. Better still Fleming's 3pt shooting climbed to 40% this year on solid volume. The key with him is the purported 7'5" wingspan. With that reach and stretch he should be able to defend 5's at times. The number is credible when you see him dunk. Doesn't really have to jump much to dunk it. His fingertips are up by the iron already. Often the long armed types have a slow wind up and extra motion on their jumper. He's got some of that, but the shot is repeatable and reliable this year. Adding that sort of range gives him extra utility on a team that prizes versatility, and needs shooters.

CMB.
The activity on defense is what jumps out to me. Smart as hell, tough but undersized. I think he is a candidate for a surprising fall. What he does well won't show up in workouts and he will underwhelm in combine measurements. However, what he does well shows up in games. The in game smarts are top level with this kid. The team that gets him is going to have a coaches favorite and a defensive captain. He reads to me as a 12 year journeyman, the sort of glue guy who has a role on any team but sometimes gets overlooked due to his unconventional frame and play style. On this team though he instantly adds a competitive fire on defense and reliable rebounding. Low center of gravity rebounders do translate in the NBA, even if he will have to adjust to make his game work. If he falls to our pick in the 20's you have to think about it.

Yaxel.
The old man of this bunch at 23, but a late late bloomer transferring out of JuCo. The guy plays with such joy that he is hard to ignore. Tracking his progress in the NIT he destroyed Fleming's team, then followed that with a 7 assist game. He's projected to go 2nd round but absolutely has 1st round talent. This is another player who is growing as you watch, improving his efficiency while his usage increases. Some team falls in love with him in workouts. I see him as this year's Tari Eason type, where you smack your head later for passing him up.

Honestly I wish I could pick any two of this bunch, it's hard to choose.

I agree with these players as prospects for our 2nd pick, and I do especially like Fleming, but IMO we should also strongly consider Danny Wolf. At PF as a 7 footer with guard like skills and playmaking, with his ability to rebound and set picks, he could be a perfect fit. At Michigan he developed a great 2 man game with center Golden, where he had a knack for drawing the defense and finding Golden for the open shot, and I would anticipate he could do the same here with Sarr. And he can play center when you want to run a small ball lineup or for added depth.

At Michigan he showed he can play in fast paced system, and even run point. Here he wouldn't play PG, which should cut down his TOs, but he'd be used in the high post, utilizing his ability to set picks and pass. His ability to box out, rebound, handle the ball and initiate the break would be an asset. He can score inside and out, and can play run and gun or slow and grind,

I'd give Sorber the advantage in terms of what this front office tends to look for as far as youth, length, superior defense, high character, work ethic, he checks the boxes. But Wolf has good positional size, high motor, and would offer more diversity offensively and 3pt shooting.



https://tankathon.com/players/compare?players=thomas-sorber--danny-wolf

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[SUPERBALLMAN]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

I actually feel like Dylan and Bub could be a really nice fit. Being Dylan the ball dominant / defense bending guard and Bub taking advantage of playing more off ball. He hasn't shown the skillset to break defenses on his own, but he's smart and makes the right play. If you take off the pressure of making things happen with the ball (something Harper is great at) I think Bub can thrive.

Yeah I think Bub & Dylan would be a good backcourt long-term. They'd actually fit perfectly as a switchable dual threat sharing PG duties. Both are high IQ, with good size, length and versatility. Dylan played a lot of 2 off ball this season and his catch and shoot numbers are actually better than his pull up shooting. While Bub is better on pull ups than he is on catch and shoot, so they would actually compliment each other.

Not saying its not possible they may end up taking Bailey over Harper, but either way if we do get Harper he'll fit in fine, that's not a problem. As long as we end up top 3 we're in good shape.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Do we think there’s any chance this FO would go with Bailey over Harper for fit reasons given what they gave up to land Bub?

I don’t think it’s that big of a deal to have Harper and Bub. But it would be a competition because I don’t think either are two guards and likely wouldn’t be a good fit on the court together.

Oh no. Dylan is a 6-6 shot creator and big time slasher & finisher. You grab him if your lucky enough to have the chance to.

He's also versatile enough to play on or off the ball. While not being an elite defender, he is theoretically is quick enough to guard 1s and strong enough to guard 2s.

I think in time he could play with either Poole or Carrington or Smart and be fine.

What happens to AJJ, George, Kispert, and Coulibaly if Harper is the pick?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Trade back, take queen, sell shares to Melo, go full BALTIMORE CHARM CITY MODE

Queen is the best pick for this team.