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I think how you judge a roster might be different than how many wins they can produce in the near term?
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Yes, of course -- but I think the word "worst" is really only being used in respect of those near-term wins. I.e. commentators are congratulating the Wizards on their work this off season while still projecting few wins.
We're planting seeds. The harvest will come later.
We're planting seeds. The harvest will come later.
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The Washington Wizards plan to go into the season with the current roster but expect to field calls from rival teams looking for shooting (Danilo Gallinari and Landry Shamet) and a backup guard (Delon Wright).
Gallinari ($6.8 million) and Wright ($8.2 million) are both in the final year of their contracts. Shamet is owed $33 million over the remaining three seasons, as noted on our HoopsHype Wizards salaries page.
As previously noted on HoopsHype, Gallinari has not had buyout talks with the Wizards and is embracing Washington and returning with a chip on his shoulder. In addition, the Hornets considered trading for Wright before signing Frank Ntilikina. Wright could command one or two second-round picks in trade discussions, according to rival NBA executives who spoke to HoopsHype.
https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumors-pascal-siakam-trade-talks-expansion-warriors-celtics-wizards-wolves-rockets-heat/
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closg00 wrote:Washington Wizards
Tommy Gilligan-USA TODAY Sports
The Washington Wizards plan to go into the season with the current roster but expect to field calls from rival teams looking for shooting (Danilo Gallinari and Landry Shamet) and a backup guard (Delon Wright).
Gallinari ($6.8 million) and Wright ($8.2 million) are both in the final year of their contracts. Shamet is owed $33 million over the remaining three seasons, as noted on our HoopsHype Wizards salaries page.
As previously noted on HoopsHype, Gallinari has not had buyout talks with the Wizards and is embracing Washington and returning with a chip on his shoulder. In addition, the Hornets considered trading for Wright before signing Frank Ntilikina. Wright could command one or two second-round picks in trade discussions, according to rival NBA executives who spoke to HoopsHype.
https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumors-pascal-siakam-trade-talks-expansion-warriors-celtics-wizards-wolves-rockets-heat/
Let's hope the adults in the room (i.e. our new FO) can engineer a trade for some 2nds before the season starts. I would not like to see our youngins riding the pine because we have to play veterans. Ideally, 2 of the 3 (Wright, Shamet and Gallo) are traded asap.
Otherwise, this is how I see the pecking order:
PG: Starter Tyus/Back-up Wright
SG: Starter Poole/Back-up Shamet
SF: Starter Deni/Back-up Kispert
PF: Starter Kuzma/Back-up Gallo
C: Starter Gafford/Back-up Muscala
This means even Coulibaly would be playing scarcely at least until the February trade line...which is not ideal...
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Frichuela wrote:closg00 wrote:Washington Wizards
Tommy Gilligan-USA TODAY Sports
The Washington Wizards plan to go into the season with the current roster but expect to field calls from rival teams looking for shooting (Danilo Gallinari and Landry Shamet) and a backup guard (Delon Wright).
Gallinari ($6.8 million) and Wright ($8.2 million) are both in the final year of their contracts. Shamet is owed $33 million over the remaining three seasons, as noted on our HoopsHype Wizards salaries page.
As previously noted on HoopsHype, Gallinari has not had buyout talks with the Wizards and is embracing Washington and returning with a chip on his shoulder. In addition, the Hornets considered trading for Wright before signing Frank Ntilikina. Wright could command one or two second-round picks in trade discussions, according to rival NBA executives who spoke to HoopsHype.
https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-rumors-pascal-siakam-trade-talks-expansion-warriors-celtics-wizards-wolves-rockets-heat/
Let's hope the adults in the room (i.e. our new FO) can engineer a trade for some 2nds before the season starts. I would not like to see our youngins riding the pine because we have to play veterans. Ideally, 2 of the 3 (Wright, Shamet and Gallo) are traded asap.
Otherwise, this is how I see the pecking order:
PG: Starter Tyus/Back-up Wright
SG: Starter Poole/Back-up Shamet
SF: Starter Deni/Back-up Kispert
PF: Starter Kuzma/Back-up Gallo
C: Starter Gafford/Back-up Muscala
This means even Coulibaly would be playing scarcely at least until the February trade line...which is not ideal...
Agreed. Trades must happen.
I'm really hoping Wright gets moved this offseason. I think that's a necessity so Kispert can get a few extra minutes at the SG slot and maybe Davis or Coulibaly could get some minutes as well. (Poole would move to PG when Tyus sits.) Wright came off a strong season last year and his value presumably won't get much higher than it is right now.
I think they'll wait a bit to move Gallinari since he is coming off of an injury. I'm hoping Gallinari plays well in October and November to boost his trade value. Then he gets moved in December. Deni would then shift over to PF when Kuzma sits, freeing up a significant amount of SF minutes for Coulibaly. I don't think Coulibaly will miss out too much by riding the pine for the first 2 months of the season.
I suspect they will keep Shamet, or at least they won't actively try and shop him. First of all, I don't think he really has positive trade value. And secondly, his contract is pretty favorable - with each successive year being non-guaranteed. It gives them the ability to be flexible in the offseason. If they need to meet the minimum salary threshold, they can opt in on Shamet's 2024-25 salary. If they would rather clear space to make a free agency acquisition, they could release him.
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Frichuela wrote:
Otherwise, this is how I see the pecking order:
PG: Starter Tyus/Back-up Wright
SG: Starter Poole/Back-up Shamet
SF: Starter Deni/Back-up Kispert
PF: Starter Kuzma/Back-up Gallo
C: Starter Gafford/Back-up Muscala
This means even Coulibaly would be playing scarcely at least until the February trade line...which is not ideal...
I think the depth chart (distinct from pecking order) may be:
Tyus/Poole/Wright
Poole/Kispert/Shamet
Deni/Kispert/Bilal
Kuzma/Gallo/Deni
Gafford/Muscala/Kuzma
That is, counting Kispert as a 6th man, who comes in at relief of either the 2-guard or wing forward. Poole as lead guard, playing on ball when Tyus is off court, allows Kispert to play in this spot. Likewise when Poole rests Kispert can play next to Tyus in that role. If Deni is out then Kispert slides in at SF.
I think Kispert's offensive efficiency will mean he is tough to keep off the floor, though if he is with the starters we are undersized and defensively vulnerable.
Gafford's minutes are generally in the low 20's. I expect we may play some small ball with Kuzma at the 5 spot, which frees up more minutes at forward. Possibly playing Kispert/Deni/Kuzma at the same time.
Wright will get minutes in defensive situations, esp when a perimeter player is eating up Poole or Jones and the team needs a 'cooler' on him. Shamet will get spot minutes off ball, and to ensure we always have a 3pt shooter away from the action. Bilal's minutes will be squeezed early but I expect he will earn his way on court, especially in offense/defense substitutions. Probably at the expense of Deni more than Kispert/Wright/Shamet. Unless either of Deni or Bilal prove they can shoot from outside. In which case Deni is tougher to remove, and Bilal can be subbed at guard.
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Let's assume that Gill heads back to Europe, which brings us back down to the regulation 15-player roster. & let's also assume that we'll add a third 2-way player at some point.
Given those two minor adjustments is this the roster we'll be taking into the season?
I.e., are we done making moves this Summer?
IOW... is the offseason over?
It does sort of seem that way -- given how quiet things have been, & that we passed on both Garuba & Queta.
In fact, our last move was on July 6.
First a whirlwind. Then a quiet Summer. 10+ weeks w/o any kind of player transactions.
Of course, it's way too early to make any judgments of the offseason.
But, still... what do you think?
Did we do enough? Did we miss any obvious opportunities?
Given those two minor adjustments is this the roster we'll be taking into the season?
I.e., are we done making moves this Summer?
IOW... is the offseason over?
It does sort of seem that way -- given how quiet things have been, & that we passed on both Garuba & Queta.
In fact, our last move was on July 6.
First a whirlwind. Then a quiet Summer. 10+ weeks w/o any kind of player transactions.
Of course, it's way too early to make any judgments of the offseason.
But, still... what do you think?
Did we do enough? Did we miss any obvious opportunities?
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payitforward wrote:Let's assume that Gill heads back to Europe, which brings us back down to the regulation 15-player roster.
Given they re-signed Taj it looks like we need one more cut. I'm thinking Cooks. Or Rollins.
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doclinkin wrote:payitforward wrote:Let's assume that Gill heads back to Europe, which brings us back down to the regulation 15-player roster.
Given they re-signed Taj it looks like we need one more cut. I'm thinking Cooks. Or Rollins.
Right. Forgot about Taj for a moment.
Rollins doesn't even turn 22 for another 6 months! I sure as hll wouldn't cut him. Plus, as nate pointed out, he was an acquisition by the new FO.
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Example #4,598 that Uncle Ted sux and is a money grubbing fool.
Since he purchased CSN, it is Monumental all day, every day. Yesterday, after the most exciting game the Commies have had since Kurt Cousins yelled "you like that!" there was no post game anywhere on TV. CSN is now unwatchable and it's website is completely uninteresting. It exists just to sell Ted's products.
Yuck. I really, really hope the Lerners don't sell the Nats to him.
Since he purchased CSN, it is Monumental all day, every day. Yesterday, after the most exciting game the Commies have had since Kurt Cousins yelled "you like that!" there was no post game anywhere on TV. CSN is now unwatchable and it's website is completely uninteresting. It exists just to sell Ted's products.
Yuck. I really, really hope the Lerners don't sell the Nats to him.
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From the previous posts...
I think the SF/PF minutes are going to be interesting... a lot of that is going to depend on how Deni plays in the preseason (and what the coaches see in practices).
It will also be interesting to see if Kispert can earn major minutes at SG.
I think the SF/PF minutes are going to be interesting... a lot of that is going to depend on how Deni plays in the preseason (and what the coaches see in practices).
It will also be interesting to see if Kispert can earn major minutes at SG.
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Well now that there is a new owner I'm sure they might get something worked out with CSN and Ted.
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Northwestern guard Chase Audige signed to an Exhibit 10 contract.
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He's a slightly ok 3 pt shoooter but why on earth do we need more guardsWallToWall wrote:?s=46&t=6CVL2FqokLq9crFyKe2QSg
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I'm still pissed we didn't sign Garuba.
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popper wrote:I'm still pissed we didn't sign Garuba.
Same here. I believe he's got great potential as a defensive small-ball center. He can guard both the perimeter and the rim. And offensively, he has good court vision and a developing 3-pt shot.
Realistically, I would have chosen the Warriors over the Wiz for a 2-way contract if I was Garuba. I think he's got a chance to earn minutes as the back-up to Looney. Heck, it would not surprise me if he plays regularly and ends up being converted into a permanent contract before season-end.
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gambitx777 wrote:He's a slightly ok 3 pt shoooter but why on earth do we need more guardsWallToWall wrote:Northwestern guard Chase Audige signed to an Exhibit 10 contract.
On the numbers, Audige was an absolutely awful college player. He certainly could NOT shoot -- in his 3 years at Northwestern his TS% never cracked .500.
OTOH, He is by all accounts a very good defender. & he played much better in SL this year than he had in college.
It's just an Exhibit 10 deal. Best guess he'll be in camp & then with the Gogo.
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Frichuela wrote:popper wrote:I'm still pissed we didn't sign Garuba.
Same here. I believe he's got great potential as a defensive small-ball center. He can guard both the perimeter and the rim. And offensively, he has good court vision and a developing 3-pt shot.
Realistically, I would have chosen the Warriors over the Wiz for a 2-way contract if I was Garuba. I think he's got a chance to earn minutes as the back-up to Looney. Heck, it would not surprise me if he plays regularly and ends up being converted into a permanent contract before season-end.
I would have given Garuba a regular roster spot -- kid was a R1 pick 2 years ago, was pretty good in the @1200 minutes he played in 2 years.
Above all, he's still only 21.
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Training camp starts in 9 days!
We will finally have something to talk about.
We will finally have something to talk about.
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