09-10 WizFans Official Draft Thread

[Ruzious]

What is everyone's take on Gordon Hayward?

I mean I really like the kid and think he is a very versatile player. He obviously needs to add strength but he is tough and can score in a variety of ways.

If he declares, i think he is a mid to late 1st (DX has him going 21)

If he was available at 30...i would take him. He would essentially replace Mike Miller and we could let him walk.

My take on him is that Singler showed he's the better player - in every phase of the game. I think it's strange how he gets overlooked. There was a discussion here the other day, and several people actually said Scheyer's a better prospect than Singler.

[willbcocks]

Oberto wasn't doing much passing--he was just receiving passes and making layups.

I think we really need a bruiser/defensive presence next to blatche. Otherwise opposing teams are just going to be doing layup drills.

[closg00]

Bullets Fever take on Aldrich.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/4/5/ ... ct-profile

[nate33]

Bullets Fever take on Aldrich.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/4/5/ ... ct-profile

I like their write-up on Favors more. They almost have me wanting to draft Favors ahead of Cousins and Turner.

[Rafael122]

Aldrich wouldn't be a bad pick, but if we have a top 5 pick, he's the last guy I'd select (especially if we're at 5).

[nate33]

I absolutely do not want Aldrich when there are so many other talented players available at 5 or 6. I'd much rather sign a stopgap center for a year (Brad Miller, Jermaine O'Neal or Marcus Camby on a 1-year contract; or BOYD deal for Nick Collison, Jeff Foster, Samuel Dalembert or Tyson Chandler) and then try to address our center issue in 2011.

Free Agency 2011 is a smorgasbord of accomplished NBA centers. In the top tier, there's Yao, Noah, Horford, Perkins and Gasol. And if we strike out on all those guys, there's still a bunch of "serviceable" centers like Dalembert, Chandler and Mohammed. There's also the small chance that McGee figures things out and proves fit to be a starting center. If so, then we'd only be looking for a cheap bruiser to back him up. Guys like Nick Collison and Aaron Gray could work.

Any of the above options is better than sacrificing our chance at a star-caliber talent by drafting a mere role player.

[no D in Hibachi]

Was that the least talented group of players in a national championship in the history of the NCAA's? There might be two players from that game who could end up being deep rotational players in the NBA, like say 11th or 12th players on a team. I know their is more "passion" in the NCAA's, but the product is just awful. I think the winner of this game should have an * next to their name because it represents the most watered down tournament in this generation. It's a shame Butler couldn't pull it out.

[Severn Hoos]

It's interesting - I wonder what would have happened if there was a guy like Wesley Johnson in last year's draft? I know the EG-bashers would say that he'd have traded the pick anyway. But I'd like to think that he keeps that pick if either Harden or Evans were still on the board. (And those two picks were pretty well telegraphed even before the deal with Minny took place, IIRC.)

Johnson should come in and be an immediate contributor, as well as being cheap (rookie deal) and still having a fairly long career ahead of him. In other words, he wouldn't have represented a choice between "win-now" and "the future", as he would have represented both sides of the equation (as did Griffin, Harden, and Evans last year, IMO). Based on the team's makeup last summer, that seems like a reasonable pick - unlike a lot of the projects that were in the mix last year (Rubio, Jennings, Hill, Flynn). And yes, I know it all comes back to Curry, he could have been a both/and guy as well.

Point is, I suspect we won't be seeing a pure project like Aminu as the pick, I'd definitely expect them to be looking at guys like Johnson or even Aldrich (sorry nate) if they're not in the top 4 - and depending, of course, on who's calling the shots.

[verbal8]

If Aldirch is sliding down the draft board into the middle of the draft, I think think the Wizards should try put together a package to get him. Especially if the Wizards luck into the first or second pick.

[Rafael122]

If Aldirch is sliding down the draft board into the middle of the draft, I think think the Wizards should try put together a package to get him. Especially if the Wizards luck into the first or second pick.

I'd do it anyway. I don't think this team will have 3 rookies on the roster next season. I think trading the 30th pick and their 2nd rounder to move up into the late teens would be more than enough. I see Oklahoma City Thunder as a possible trading partner. They've got the 22nd and 27th pick. I'd go for their 22nd and draft someone like Quincy Pondexter, who will still be there at that point, or even Gordon Hayward.

[nate33]

Point is, I suspect we won't be seeing a pure project like Aminu as the pick, I'd definitely expect them to be looking at guys like Johnson or even Aldrich (sorry nate) if they're not in the top 4 - and depending, of course, on who's calling the shots.

This year is very different from last year. EG jettisoned Jamison, Haywood and Butler for little more than Al Thornton in return. Clearly, EG is committing to rebuilding. If anything, EG's modus operandi is to draft projects with star upside rather than NBA-ready juniors and seniors who are destined to be role players.

[nate33]

If Aldirch is sliding down the draft board into the middle of the draft, I think think the Wizards should try put together a package to get him. Especially if the Wizards luck into the first or second pick.

I'd do it anyway. I don't think this team will have 3 rookies on the roster next season. I think trading the 30th pick and their 2nd rounder to move up into the late teens would be more than enough. I see Oklahoma City Thunder as a possible trading partner. They've got the 22nd and 27th pick. I'd go for their 22nd and draft someone like Quincy Pondexter, who will still be there at that point, or even Gordon Hayward.

I agree with this. If the 30th and the 34th pick can be packaged to move up to somewhere in the low 20's, I'd pull the trigger.

[NbdyBeatsTheWiz]

If Aldirch is sliding down the draft board into the middle of the draft, I think think the Wizards should try put together a package to get him. Especially if the Wizards luck into the first or second pick.

I'd do it anyway. I don't think this team will have 3 rookies on the roster next season. I think trading the 30th pick and their 2nd rounder to move up into the late teens would be more than enough. I see Oklahoma City Thunder as a possible trading partner. They've got the 22nd and 27th pick. I'd go for their 22nd and draft someone like Quincy Pondexter, who will still be there at that point, or even Gordon Hayward.

I agree with this. If the 30th and the 34th pick can be packaged to move up to somewhere in the low 20's, I'd pull the trigger.

+2. Sure beats selling the second rounder for cash. And landing in the high teens wouldn't hurt either. James Anderson and Whiteside were in that neighborhood of DEx's last mock.

[verbal8]

I see Leonsis as being a pick buyer not a seller. A lot teams probably want to buy this year, but it still should be possible to buy in to the middle or end of the 2nd round.

[closg00]

If Aldirch is sliding down the draft board into the middle of the draft, I think think the Wizards should try put together a package to get him. Especially if the Wizards luck into the first or second pick.

I'd do it anyway. I don't think this team will have 3 rookies on the roster next season. I think trading the 30th pick and their 2nd rounder to move up into the late teens would be more than enough. I see Oklahoma City Thunder as a possible trading partner. They've got the 22nd and 27th pick. I'd go for their 22nd and draft someone like Quincy Pondexter, who will still be there at that point, or even Gordon Hayward.

That's a good bet Ernie usually trades or sells picks for vets and vets are what Flip would prefer.. but this will be challenging given Gil's salary and the declining cap.

[nate33]

My take on him is that Singler showed he's the better player - in every phase of the game. I think it's strange how he gets overlooked. There was a discussion here the other day, and several people actually said Scheyer's a better prospect than Singler.

Yeah. I said that. I don't know what I was thinking. I hearby revoke and condemn any such statements made by myself or by third parties on my behalf. Singler > Scheyer in college, in the pro's, and in the YMCA League.

[Rafael122]

I see Leonsis as being a pick buyer not a seller. A lot teams probably want to buy this year, but it still should be possible to buy in to the middle or end of the 2nd round.

We can only carry so many players, and do we want to wind up like Portland who would have to pay all their young talent a **** of money all at the same time? That has its advantages and disadvantages.

[fishercob]

I see Leonsis as being a pick buyer not a seller. A lot teams probably want to buy this year, but it still should be possible to buy in to the middle or end of the 2nd round.

We can only carry so many players, and do we want to wind up like Portland who would have to pay all their young talent a **** of money all at the same time? That has its advantages and disadvantages.

Portland's mistake wasn't having too much young talent. Just like the Baby Bulls, Portland's mistake was failing to cash in their chips when they had the opportunity. Remember those Bulls wouldn't give up some combo of Deng/Chandler/picks for KG? I think part of the reason Pritch is on the outs is b/c he convinced ownership to spend all this money buying picks and stashing players overseas but doesn't have much to show for it.

[Dat2U]

Singler brings one NBA level skill to the table. His shooting. He's great coming off screens.

I can see Singler being a specialist off the bench. But nothing special.

I've seen nothing in Jon Scheyer's game to indicate he can play in the NBA. Maybe he'll a long career overseas.

[yungal07]

Bullets Fever take on Aldrich.
http://www.bulletsforever.com/2010/4/5/ ... ct-profile

I like their write-up on Favors more. They almost have me wanting to draft Favors ahead of Cousins and Turner.

I wouldn't take Favors over Turner, but I would take him over Cousins.

Seriously, we already have guys that need 24/7 babysitting in the locker room. Do we really need another one?