Official Trade Thread XV: 12/22/10 - 5/3/11

[verbal8]

I'm not sure what the conversation was about at this point, but when I checked average weight for a PF (77 players on the list), I came up with 245.5. When I weight for minutes played, the average drops to 244.4. That proves "it" whatever "it" was. I forgot.

Playing time -> weight loss obviously

So the solution to the Eddy Curry problem would be to play him for 40 minutes a game lol

[Illuminaire]

We need the BBMA (Best big man available). If we can get that while also adding value, we'd do it. If we'd need to sacrifice the BBMA, I don't think it's worth it.

That said, I have no idea who the BBMA is. Kanter intrigues, but Wizards with knee problems have a storied history of self-destruction.

[Ruzious]

I'm not sure what the conversation was about at this point, but when I checked average weight for a PF (77 players on the list), I came up with 245.5. When I weight for minutes played, the average drops to 244.4. That proves "it" whatever "it" was. I forgot.

Thanks, Kev. I had estimated 246, rather than 245.5, so obviously I was wildly exaggerating with made-up numbers.

[pcbothwel]

This is still the trade thread right?

In a year like this one where there is no clear #1 that plays a need position for us, would you guys give the #1 overall to Utah for the Nets pick and the Utah pick? Based on current slotting, we'd then be choosing 6th, 15th and 23rd.

Do you think they would give up Favors and the 6th pick?

I would absolutley try to get out of #1 and trade back 3-6 spots for youth + pick, 2012 pick + 2011 pick, or drop shards contract. Just make sure we can get Kanter/Jonas/sullinger or Barnes(mostly because his floor is a 12+ year career player who scores, rebounds, passes, and defends with efficiency and consistency, while his ceiling could be perfect #2 option to John Wall who makes a few all-star games)

[tontoz]

I'm not sure what the conversation was about at this point, but when I checked average weight for a PF (77 players on the list), I came up with 245.5. When I weight for minutes played, the average drops to 244.4. That proves "it" whatever "it" was. I forgot.

the original argument started when Ruzious said Booker was too small for play the 4. Setting aside Ruzious stating an opinion as fact, Nate pointed out that Bookers length compared favorably with other 4s. Ruzious then changed course to talk about weight saying that Booker lacked bulk to play the 4.

Checking carefully this time we were both off. the top 77 came out to 242.5.

Booker is listed at 240 so that puts him 2.5 below the league average. Given how easily a guy can gain a few pounds i fail to see the significance of this. Ruzious himself pointed out how insignificant such a small amount of weight is when he said BFD when i said he was 5 pounds off in his estimate.

[LyricalRico]

Does anybody have Booker's wunderlich score?

[Ruzious]

I'm not sure what the conversation was about at this point, but when I checked average weight for a PF (77 players on the list), I came up with 245.5. When I weight for minutes played, the average drops to 244.4. That proves "it" whatever "it" was. I forgot.

the original argument started when Ruzious said Booker was too small for play the 4. Setting aside Ruzious stating an opinion as fact, Nate pointed out that Bookers length compared favorably with other 4s. Ruzious then changed course to talk about weight saying that Booker lacked bulk to play the 4.

Checking carefully this time we were both off. the top 77 came out to 242.5.

Booker is listed at 240 so that puts him 2.5 below the league average. Given how easily a guy can gain a few pounds i fail to see the significance of this. Ruzious himself pointed out how insignificant such a small amount of weight is when he said BFD when i said he was 5 pounds off in his estimate.

Your posts here have been sad and stupid, tontoz. If you didn't have a crazed need to try to prove me wrong, you'd see that. I'd suggest going for a jog or work up a sweat in the gym. Clear your head, cuz you got stuff in there that's messing you up.

[Ruzious]

Does anybody have Booker's wunderlich score?

Everybody knows that's only good for football players.

[tontoz]

Your posts here have been sad and stupid, tontoz. If you didn't have a crazed need to try to prove me wrong, you'd see that. I'd suggest going for a jog or work up a sweat in the gym. Clear your head, cuz you got stuff in there that's messing you up.

When all evidence/logic is against you there is always ad hominem to fall back on. Predictable as sunrise.

Be sure to let me know when Nene has his first 20 point game without Melo.

[Ruzious]

Your posts here have been sad and stupid, tontoz. If you didn't have a crazed need to try to prove me wrong, you'd see that. I'd suggest going for a jog or work up a sweat in the gym. Clear your head, cuz you got stuff in there that's messing you up.

When all evidence/logic is against you there is always ad hominem to fall back on. Predictable as sunrise.

Be sure to let me know when Nene has his first 20 point game without Melo.

Ya got me there. Hey, great talking with you. Buhbye now.

[Zonkerbl]

I agree that the bench press test is pretty pointless. They'd be better off doing some kind of power squat test. At least that provides a measurment of something that's far more relevant to the sport of basketball.

Guys would still be making the same argument even if they changed the test. when Nate Robinson squats more than Sweeney they would still be saying that it isn't relevant because Sweeney can back down Robinson due to his weight advantage.

Sure, little guys would do better because of leverage with smaller limbs, but GM's already know this. They don't expect Brendan Haywood to squat more than Earl Boykins. But it would still be a useful stat to measure Brendan Haywood's ability to establish low post position against Tyson Chandler. It tells me more about what I want to know than what a bench press score would tell.

Seven footers shouldn't do squats. If I wanted to test the ability of someone 6'8" or taller to establish his own/dislodge someone else from their post position, I'd watch tape. You need to be tall. You need to be heavy enough that people can't snap you like a twig, like they do to McGee all the time. And you have to be smart -- you have to know where to go, agile enough to get there, and you have to be an a-hole about holding that position. Was Rodman strong or smart?

So yeah, there's no strength test that will tell you anything about the ability to establish post position. That's what they pay scouts for.

[Zonkerbl]

Oh! Sorry. Couldn't help it. I saw a conversation about squats and a little dog in my brain started to salivate.

[edit: and I agree with Tontoz, so there.]

[pineappleheadindc]

It's trolling when you post things just to be a hater and to get on other people's nerves. To mods: I apologize for breaking rule E.

As for you, Ace, since you asked... rules B, C, D, and J. Aside from that you're awesome.

Lmao. It's hillarious that I somehow broke rules B, C, D and J.. when there are no rules with letters. We have a nice sticky at the top of this forum with rules and if you can point me to the rules I've broken, I'll be happy to refrain.

I love how you decide for me everything though. You're awesome too guy!!

Fokus. Dude.

I've been trying to hold off saying or doing anything b/c you're a long-time board member who I thought has just gotten off the rails a little. But honestly, you're actually *begging* for a little vacation.

This board, this community, is pretty accepting of people's opinions - strong opinions. This isn't the Knicks board, where you could get suspended for - I forget what Ji got banned for, but it was nothing at all really. But you, you are over the line.

Look, dude. After your 7-day vacation hits, take a second to step back from the ledge and cool off a bit. Don't avoid thie board, but visit it - even in suspended status - just to read the posts from everyone. Keep up with the team and board. But also please consider your posting style.

By the way, guidelines and rules (with letters) are here for you to read and stickied at the top of forum page.

You're been a long-time member of this board. I hope you'll continue to be an active and contributing forum participant. But only if you don't negatively impact the experiences of the other board members.

Please think about it.

Pine

[tontoz]

Oh! Sorry. Couldn't help it. I saw a conversation about squats and a little dog in my brain started to salivate.

[edit: and I agree with Tontoz, so there.]

You'd better aggree with me or else.....

[507Mack]

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with everyone's nicknames on this board.

AceDegenerate = Fokus?
What happened to WizardsKev and Greendale from back when we are on the ESPN board? I'm out of touch...

[Zonkerbl]

WizardsKev=Nevik

[Ed Wood]

Kevin still posts as some sort of sheep with missiles on it (he's Nivek), greendale hangs out in the current affairs board. Please stop having pedantic arguments about how fat Trevor Booker is everyone. Thanks in advance.

[pineappleheadindc]

^
Kev, what's with the sheep with missiles? Now that Ed Wood has mentioned it, I've been curious for a while.

[Nivek]

^
Kev, what's with the sheep with missiles? Now that Ed Wood has mentioned it, I've been curious for a while.

It's Top Secret. I could tell you, but then I'd have to give you an itchy sweater.

[tontoz]

^
Kev, what's with the sheep with missiles? Now that Ed Wood has mentioned it, I've been curious for a while.

It's Top Secret. I could tell you, but then I'd have to give you an itchy sweater.

Pine just let it go. Look at what that sweater did to Ed (see his avatar). I cringe to think of the pictures you would be posting in the game threads. The Luvabulls are bad enough.