Bradley Beal

dangermouse · Post #1381 » by **dangermouse** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:08 am

I'm a Bealiver

Joel Embust · Post #1382 » by **Joel Embust** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:02 am

Definitely the real Beal.

hands11 · Post #1383 » by **hands11** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:49 pm

The future of this team really is very bright based on Wall and Beal.

Both are really just getting started.

Wall is ready to break out. He has shown good signs of really developing into a complete player in the likes of a D Rose but bigger and with a real passing PG mentality. Clearly a franchise leader type. Being a top 3 PG in the league is in his reach.

Beal can be huge. The Ray Allen/D Wade mix was always what I had as a long term goal for him. I can't wait to see what Beal's game develops into after 3 full seasons in the league. Being a multi-year AS is in his reach. There is a ways to go to get there but I have a great feeling about him in that he can get there. Really looking forward to seeing him develop his driving skills. And he is still growing. What if he ends up 6-6 by next year. That would be really sweet.

So just based on what these two players can become, the franchise's future has great possibilities. They not only have the right bodies and skills but they have it between the ears, and that so so important.

It would be great to see the team make the playoff this year, but even if they don't, they can have a very productive year that reflects well on the future if these two show good signs of developing their games because they are clearly inked a long term top pieces.

I'm going to have fun pulling for several other players. I think there a lots of subplots to this season with other players who I think will show progress and we have to get our first look at Otto, but Wall and Beal can be great. And when you have that, youre a trade or FA acquisition away from have a solid top level core.

So even if they only end up 8th seed so Wall and Beal can get their first playoff experience, I would count that as a successful season at this stage of the rebuild. That would set them up nicely for the next off season.

There is huge difference between where the team was last year and this year. Last year we still had huge questions about Wall and his future here and he was injured coming into camp. We hadn't even seen Beal yet in the NBA. Nene was injured. Okafor, Trevor A and Webster were new and we had no idea if even one could fill in a SF. Randy was a first year coach. The team had yet to establish anything. We had no identity. The hadn't shown they could be a top defensive team.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... ning-camp/

Beal focused on his ball-handling to take some pressure off Wall and those who have witnessed voluntary workouts rave about his improved offensive arsenal.

payitforward · Post #1384 » by **payitforward** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:59 pm

Eleqtrique wrote:Definitely the real Beal.

Just have to hope Beal doesn't hit a Wall and Emeka lot of noise -- that would be a Maynor Ne-ne, but it Otto not happen aGlen, Ariza's sad day for us.

JWizmentality · Post #1385 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:36 am

payitforward wrote:Just have to hope Beal doesn't hit a Wall and Emeka lot of noise -- that would be a Maynor Ne-ne, but it Otto not happen aGlen, Ariza's sad day for us.

Took me a while but I see what you did there. :lol:

payitforward · Post #1386 » by **payitforward** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:43 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
payitforward wrote:Just have to hope Beal doesn't hit a Wall and Emeka lot of noise -- that would be a Maynor Ne-ne, but it Otto not happen aGlen, Ariza's sad day for us.

Took me a while but I see what you did there.

Just a poor example of Witt(,)man! :roll:

dangermouse · Post #1387 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 2:39 pm

Wizards media day snap.

If J-Dub is 6'4", Beal is now also 6'4". They look the same height.

Weren't we also saying last off season that Wall had grown, because he looked as tall as someone else on the team who was listed at 6'5"?

Could they both be 6'5" now?

Eh, in any case, Beal is definitely not 6'3".

stevemcqueen1 · Post #1388 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 4:35 pm

Beal measured 6' 4.75" in shoes at the combine. I don't get why 2K12 has him at 6'3. He's the only player on the game that I can find where they went shorter than his measured height without shoes (6' 3.25"). Apparently he doesn't get to wear shoes in that game.

So I don't know that Beal has grown.

nuposse04 · Post #1389 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 4:48 pm

Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

DCZards · Post #1390 » by **DCZards** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 4:58 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

I don't have a problem with a 6-5 Beal getting minutes at the 3 in certain situations. I can see an occasional lineup of Maynor at PG; Wall at SG and Beal at SF depending upon the matchups. You have to keep all your options open.

payitforward · Post #1391 » by **payitforward** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 9:53 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

He just turned 20 a few months ago. He could wind up 6'7" -- or even 6'8"??

nuposse04 · Post #1392 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Oct 2, 2013 10:03 pm

payitforward wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

He just turned 20 a few months ago. He could wind up 6'7" -- or even 6'8"??

green font??? :confused:

Post #1393 » by **nate33** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 12:00 am

DCZards wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

I don't have a problem with a 6-5 Beal getting minutes at the 3 in certain situations. I can see an occasional lineup of Maynor at PG; Wall at SG and Beal at SF depending upon the matchups. You have to keep all your options open.

I think Beal has the capability of playing some 3, but I really don't see the point. I have a hard time envisioning a scenario where the Maynor, Wall, Beal combo would be better than Wall, Beal plus one of Webster, Ariza or Porter.

Nivek · Post #1394 » by **Nivek** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 12:25 am

No green font needed. Once Beal hits his growth spurt, he's going to be Durant-sized.

hands11 · Post #1395 » by **hands11** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 6:54 am

nate33 wrote:
DCZards wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:Beal said he's a "legit 6'5" now in his shoes in a media day interview. I'm assuming its his playing shoes as oppose to his combine shoes. In the same interview he also said he thinks he might get minutes at the 3....which I just think is a horrible idea. I understand going small ball...but c'mon.

I don't have a problem with a 6-5 Beal getting minutes at the 3 in certain situations. I can see an occasional lineup of Maynor at PG; Wall at SG and Beal at SF depending upon the matchups. You have to keep all your options open.

I think Beal has the capability of playing some 3, but I really don't see the point. I have a hard time envisioning a scenario where the Maynor, Wall, Beal combo would be better than Wall, Beal plus one of Webster, Ariza or Porter.

Better ball handling.

Beal keeps talking about how he improved his handles. Can't wait to see what he's got.

I think Wall and Beal are going to beast this year. And as a team, I think they are going to have a lot more energy and really get after it defensively. But we should get our first look at something special this year. Something special we should have for a long time. Wall and Beal

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... al-10-2-13

This is the first time in forever it really feels like a team of professional that can challenge to win games from day one. Players have roles. They are all professional. They get alone. There is talent. They still need some unproven young players to step up and they need good health, but man this is 100 miles from where they were even at the start of last year, let alone 2, 3 years ago.

deneem4 · Post #1396 » by **deneem4** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 7:16 am

I see beal as eric gordon/james harden...mostly eric gordon, back when he was eric gordon...if beal can play like that, we'll be a top 5 playoff team, off him and wall alone

payitforward · Post #1397 » by **payitforward** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 1:44 pm

deneem4 wrote:I see beal as eric gordon/james harden...mostly eric gordon, back when he was eric gordon...if beal can play like that, we'll be a top 5 playoff team, off him and wall alone

I think Gordon is one of the more overrated players in the league (a volume shooter), so lets hope it's James Harden!

Illuminaire · Post #1398 » by **Illuminaire** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 6:08 pm

A more efficient, lower usage Gordon would not be bad either. Basically if you took Gordon's skillset and cut out his five worst shots a night, that's a pretty good player.

I'd rather he turn out like Harden too, of course.

payitforward · Post #1399 » by **payitforward** » Thu Oct 3, 2013 6:37 pm

Illuminaire wrote:A more efficient, lower usage Gordon would not be bad either. Basically if you took Gordon's skillset and cut out his five worst shots a night, that's a pretty good player.

That's not how I see it. I did call him a volume shooter, and that's why he puts up so many points, which in turn is why he's overrated. But, in fact, he's a pretty efficient scorer. Leaving out last year when he was clearly not the old Eric Gordon, if you took away his 5 worst shots a night (lets say he missed 4 of those), the guy would be shooting over 60% -- I'll say that's "pretty good"!!

What subtracts from how good a player he is comes from being quite sub-par at pretty much everything else. For example, on his career he has @ as many turnovers as rebounds, and he just about never gets an offensive board. In contrast, Beal had more than twice as many boards as TOs his rookie year, and Harden was even better than that on his career w/ the Thunder. Last year, he turned it over a little too much but still below his rebound number.

Gordon had a slightly better rookie year than Beal, and Harden had a much better rookie year than either of them. But both Gordon and Harden came into the league one year older than Beal did. That's a significant difference in organized basketball experience -- and maybe in physical maturity too.

GhostsOfGil · Post #1400 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Fri Oct 4, 2013 1:39 pm

Beal focused on his ball-handling to take some pressure off Wall and those who have witnessed voluntary workouts rave about his improved offensive arsenal. The 20-year-old Beal recently stated that his confidence is “still sky high.” Now, Beal has to show how that translates to regular season production.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... ning-camp/