Political Roundtable Part XVI

[dckingsfan]

I think the Ds just need to focus on purging their party of those same predators and then make it a differentiator. Short term-pain while the minority party for long-term gain.

Dems have been doing the work and holding party members accountable. They actually live up to their principles. Meanwhile Republicans are supporting a pedophile. What needs to happen is for independents like you and reasonable Republicans need to stop this both sides foolishness and reward the party that's actually standing for something.

And that won't happen until '18 and '20. You will just have to be patient and watch it play out...

[I_Like_Dirt]

And that won't happen until '18 and '20. You will just have to be patient and watch it play out...

That patience game isn't as much of a lock as you suggest it to be, though, even with all the catches you add to it. It's been long established around the world for centuries that ignoring issues like Trump and the current state of the Republican Party doesn't make them go away. And technological changes make that even less likely to be true moving forward.

[dckingsfan]

And that won't happen until '18 and '20. You will just have to be patient and watch it play out...

That patience game isn't as much of a lock as you suggest it to be, though, even with all the catches you add to it. It's been long established around the world for centuries that ignoring issues like Trump and the current state of the Republican Party doesn't make them go away. And technological changes make that even less likely to be true moving forward.

Is there a choice? For the short-term, Trump isn't going anywhere. The Rs aren't going to suddenly give up both houses.

The DNC caused a lot of problems (IMO), needs to be fixed and finally seems to be going in the right direction.

The long-view is the way to go, IMO. The Ds need to put together a message that can penetrate into some of the purple states. You are (implied) correct that there are certain states you will never win. But there are a bunch of states that could be flipped to blue.

[Wizardspride]

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[Pointgod]

Hey remember when President Obama made a sexist attack against a sitting Senator? Yeah me neither.

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[Zonkerbl]

And that won't happen until '18 and '20. You will just have to be patient and watch it play out...

That patience game isn't as much of a lock as you suggest it to be, though, even with all the catches you add to it. It's been long established around the world for centuries that ignoring issues like Trump and the current state of the Republican Party doesn't make them go away. And technological changes make that even less likely to be true moving forward.

Is there a choice? For the short-term, Trump isn't going anywhere. The Rs aren't going to suddenly give up both houses.

The DNC caused a lot of problems (IMO), needs to be fixed and finally seems to be going in the right direction.

The long-view is the way to go, IMO. The Ds need to put together a message that can penetrate into some of the purple states. You are (implied) correct that there are certain states you will never win. But there are a bunch of states that could be flipped to blue.

Texas for example. I think Dems can flip it in 2020.

Yeah, you don't want to get so focused on resisting Trump's idiocracy that you forget to invest in the future. 2020 is the next census year and the next major gerrymandering year. Dems have to be back in control by then.

[Zonkerbl]

Hey remember when President Obama made a sexist attack against a sitting Senator? Yeah me neither.

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I would love a reporter to shout out a question to Trump "did you mean to imply a sitting Senator once offered to give you a bj for money? Mr. President?"

[Kanyewest]

Tulsi Gabbard comes to mind. I would also still vote for Bernie Sanders if he ran. I think a strong progressive with great ideas would woo many voters who sat home the last election.

I think he is a populist as well - guess I would vote for neither Bernie or Trump...

But if you had to choose....

[Pointgod]

What ever the outcome in the Senate election tonight it will have implications on other Southern States. Mississppi will have a Senate election in 2018 and likely a special election because of the declining health of Thad Cochran. Mississippi like Alabama are the icons of the “Old South” but Mississippi has a far different demographic than Alabama. I haven't been able to get the % of independents in Mississippi.

Mississippi has the highest percentage of Afro Americans in the USA @ 37% which is growing with people returning for retirement. The state has 4% Latinos and 1% Asian which gives a strong 42% of the population which should be Democratic.

Mississippi has the highest poverty levels in the USA and lowest household income so they will be one of the States most effected by the new Republican tax plan. Hillary Clinton ran behind what Obama did in both 2012 where Obama got almost 44% of the vote and in 2008 where he recieved 43% of the vote.

Bannon is planning on putting up a challenger for Wicker which will possibly move the Republican Party further right. His choices are extreme and may even repeal some Republican voters. Some safe seat in the Republican Senate may not be as safe as the pundits predict. If tonight is won by Jones or if he loses by a small margin. I think Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas could be put in play in 2018.

I appreciate your optimism but Republican voters are like Charlie Brown with the football. No matter how many times it gets pulled away they never learn their lesson. Steve Bannon supported candidates shouldn't be popular but here we are with Roy Moore.

[cammac]

What ever the outcome in the Senate election tonight it will have implications on other Southern States. Mississppi will have a Senate election in 2018 and likely a special election because of the declining health of Thad Cochran. Mississippi like Alabama are the icons of the “Old South” but Mississippi has a far different demographic than Alabama. I haven't been able to get the % of independents in Mississippi.

Mississippi has the highest percentage of Afro Americans in the USA @ 37% which is growing with people returning for retirement. The state has 4% Latinos and 1% Asian which gives a strong 42% of the population which should be Democratic.

Mississippi has the highest poverty levels in the USA and lowest household income so they will be one of the States most effected by the new Republican tax plan. Hillary Clinton ran behind what Obama did in both 2012 where Obama got almost 44% of the vote and in 2008 where he recieved 43% of the vote.

Bannon is planning on putting up a challenger for Wicker which will possibly move the Republican Party further right. His choices are extreme and may even repeal some Republican voters. Some safe seat in the Republican Senate may not be as safe as the pundits predict. If tonight is won by Jones or if he loses by a small margin. I think Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas could be put in play in 2018.

I appreciate your optimism but Republican voters are like Charlie Brown with the football. No matter how many times it gets pulled away they never learn their lesson. Steve Bannon supported candidates shouldn't be popular but here we are with Roy Moore.

The key is running a top tier candidate not cannon no bodies.
Dong Jones is a perfect example he might not win ( still think he will) but makes people think.
They might not win but they also steal resources from the Republicans having to defend safe territories.

[Wizardspride]

Hey remember when President Obama made a sexist attack against a sitting Senator? Yeah me neither.

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I would love a reporter to shout out a question to Trump "did you mean to imply a sitting Senator once offered to give you a bj for money? Mr. President?"

Here you go.

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[cammac]

The entire Trump family couldn’t put together a valid absentee ballot between them in the New York mayoral race held November 7. Daily News:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/12/1723588/-All-Trump-Ballots-Disqualified-Because-Incredibly-None-Of-Them-Could-Fill-One-Out

Leader of the Free World????? When is your birthday? Starts with a J does that count.

[Zonkerbl]

Hey remember when President Obama made a sexist attack against a sitting Senator? Yeah me neither.

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I would love a reporter to shout out a question to Trump "did you mean to imply a sitting Senator once offered to give you a bj for money? Mr. President?"

Here you go.

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It's not the same as "are you implying the woman you referred to is a prostitute?"

I suppose I would settle for "Do you unconditionally condemn slut shaming, Mr. President, or is it ok occasionally to score political points with your base?"

[Zonkerbl]

"Mr. President! Do you confirm or deny that Senator Killibrand is a slut? Mr. President?"

[Pointgod]

What ever the outcome in the Senate election tonight it will have implications on other Southern States. Mississppi will have a Senate election in 2018 and likely a special election because of the declining health of Thad Cochran. Mississippi like Alabama are the icons of the “Old South” but Mississippi has a far different demographic than Alabama. I haven't been able to get the % of independents in Mississippi.

Mississippi has the highest percentage of Afro Americans in the USA @ 37% which is growing with people returning for retirement. The state has 4% Latinos and 1% Asian which gives a strong 42% of the population which should be Democratic.

Mississippi has the highest poverty levels in the USA and lowest household income so they will be one of the States most effected by the new Republican tax plan. Hillary Clinton ran behind what Obama did in both 2012 where Obama got almost 44% of the vote and in 2008 where he recieved 43% of the vote.

Bannon is planning on putting up a challenger for Wicker which will possibly move the Republican Party further right. His choices are extreme and may even repeal some Republican voters. Some safe seat in the Republican Senate may not be as safe as the pundits predict. If tonight is won by Jones or if he loses by a small margin. I think Mississippi, Tennessee and Texas could be put in play in 2018.

I appreciate your optimism but Republican voters are like Charlie Brown with the football. No matter how many times it gets pulled away they never learn their lesson. Steve Bannon supported candidates shouldn't be popular but here we are with Roy Moore.

The key is running a top tier candidate not cannon no bodies.
Dong Jones is a perfect example he might not win ( still think he will) but makes people think.
They might not win but they also steal resources from the Republicans having to defend safe territories.

Call me a pessimist but I don't see any major changes until the US addresses it's major racial problems and the virus of tribalism. Roy Moore is in no way qualified for Senate. Even if you ignore his racism, anti-semitism and homophobia, the man was removed from the Supreme court twice because he refused to follow the rule of law and believes all the amendments after 10 don't matter. And the only reason this race is even close for Doug Jones is because of Roy Moore preying on little girls. And he will still probably win! Literally the only thing that could sink Roy Moore is if he preyed on little boys! All these red states need to do is run a Roy Moore without the pedophiling to win. Still a bad candidate! It's not like they're running Mitt Romney's out there.

[dckingsfan]

Hey guys - correct me if I am wrong but are there any Republican senators publicly calling for Moore to stay in the Alabama? I was looking and can't find one - I wanted to know how they justified his actions. Not our POTUS, we know where he stands - but the actual senators.

I just think that many Rs in the senate are horrified that he is going to win and they are going to have to clean up the mess.

Fascinating.

[closg00]

The Republican blueprint for winning elections is underway in Alabama, voter purges in Blue districts so when those people turn-up to vote whoops, they are listed as in-active on the rolls. The other tactic is how voter ID is being enforced. Disgusting voter suppression underway in Alabama.
http://reverepress.com/politics/black-voters-alabama-getting-blocked-voting-polls-details/

[Wizardspride]

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[cammac]

Hey guys - correct me if I am wrong but are there any Republican senators publicly calling for Moore to stay in the Alabama? I was looking and can't find one - I wanted to know how they justified his actions. Not our POTUS, we know where he stands - but the actual senators.

I just think that many Rs in the senate are horrified that he is going to win and they are going to have to clean up the mess.

Fascinating.

For the REPUGS it is a loss no matter what happens and it could be worse if Moore wins his stench with some brave ladies assault on "The Grabber IN Chief" will alienate women and independents even more. Looking at 538 Politics Trump favorable rating was only 50% with voters leaving polls in Alabama today.

[stilldropin20]

The Republican blueprint for winning elections is underway in Alabama, voter purges in Blue districts so when those people turn-up to vote whoops, they are listed as in-active on the rolls. The other tactic is how voter ID is being enforced. Disgusting voter suppression underway in Alabama.
http://reverepress.com/politics/black-voters-alabama-getting-blocked-voting-polls-details/

Im still not understanding the push back against a valid id.

valid I'd are extremely important for law enforce ment... among other things. child support. Collections. Etc.

You should have a valid id with your actual current address on it to vote and even up to a 60 day Grace period of you just moved.

Making people update and keep current their I'd is important. It's not that much to ask.

The rest Of us have to keep our id current for various things. Why are we allowing people to slide on this? And it helps makes sure that we are not going to have voter fraud.

I mean we're seriously going to have russiagate over our election for 12 Months and then not make sure we have valid IDs when people are actually voting???? kind of joke are you trying to tell me? Sick and twisted? Or just twisted?

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