Offseason Plan

[Ruzious]

I wonder if Pop really goes off into the sunset that they wont do a deeper rebuild. I'd offer 10 + filler for Murray if they wanted to make an effort to get into the top 4.

Dejounte Murray is the face of their franchise - he ain't going anywhere. If we get a Murray, it'll be Keegan or Keegan's brother Kris.

[mhd]

I'd make it a priority to resign Gill to the vet min. He seems like a good chemistry guy (always cheering). The end of the bench should be dedicated to good locker-room guys who don't complain when they don't get PT.

[NatP4]

Touché on Gill. He’s actually a good player.

Wanted to point out that in the last 15 games, out of the players who have played 200+ minutes, Kispert, Avdija, and Hachimura lead the team in on/off differential.

I still think we need to withhold criticism for Sheppard’s drafting ability for a bit longer. Those 3 might all be hits.

I honestly think we are seeing a big turning point for Hachimura. He’s never had good on/off numbers or shot the 3 ball this well. I think next year he’s gonna take off.

[FAH1223]

Touché on Gill. He’s actually a good player.

Wanted to point out that in the last 15 games, out of the players who have played 200+ minutes, Kispert, Avdija, and Hachimura lead the team in on/off differential.

I still think we need to withhold criticism for Sheppard’s drafting ability for a bit longer. Those 3 might all be hits.

I honestly think we are seeing a big turning point for Hachimura. He’s never had good on/off numbers or shot the 3 ball this well. I think next year he’s gonna take off.

Sign Rui to a team friendly extension?

[FAH1223]

I wonder if Pop really goes off into the sunset that they wont do a deeper rebuild. I'd offer 10 + filler for Murray if they wanted to make an effort to get into the top 4.

Murray ain’t getting traded.

Pop might actually come back. He’s said he’s rejuvenated by this young roster.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I'd make it a priority to resign Gill to the vet min. He seems like a good chemistry guy (always cheering). The end of the bench should be dedicated to good locker-room guys who don't complain when they don't get PT.

I'm at the point I hope they decide to move on from Beal. IMO the team is just more enjoyable when he's not there. He's like a cloud that hangs over the team. I almost wouldn't even care if he just walks and we get nothing. Of course I understand we are a better team with him. But the thought of signing him to the Super Max is just a crusher.

Right now I'm enjoying watching Kispert at SG and seeing him improving. I like the way the ball is moving, and the team chemistry.

I guess we'll have a new "Big 3" with Beal, Porzingis & Kuzma.

[9 and 20]

I'd make it a priority to resign Gill to the vet min. He seems like a good chemistry guy (always cheering). The end of the bench should be dedicated to good locker-room guys who don't complain when they don't get PT.

I'm at the point I hope they decide to move on from Beal. IMO the team is just more enjoyable when he's not there. He's like a cloud that hangs over the team. I almost wouldn't even care if he just walks and we get nothing. Of course I understand we are a better team with him. But the thought of signing him to the Super Max is just a crusher.

Right now I'm enjoying watching Kispert at SG and seeing him improving. I like the way the ball is moving, and the team chemistry.

I guess we'll have a new "Big 3" with Beal, Porzingis & Kuzma.

This big three will have a hard time living up to the last one. John Wall, Jordan Crawford, and Andray Baltche would have won a championship together if just a couple more breaks went their way.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Kind of funny to think about how similar a situation between the Wizards and the Commanders.

Both teams need a Quarterback (PG). Both projected to draft #11. Both wondering should they trade for a starter or draft? Maybe sign a guy for now and draft for future?

Commanders can sign a guy like Trubisky and draft Pickett? Wizards can sign a guy like Tyus Jones and draft Washington? Or trade their draft pick with players for a proven starter?

Also a little unnerving to think about the similarity of Wizards present situation with Beal & the Commanders former situation with Cousins. Both good guys & players, but worth being the highest paid in the league???

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I'd make it a priority to resign Gill to the vet min. He seems like a good chemistry guy (always cheering). The end of the bench should be dedicated to good locker-room guys who don't complain when they don't get PT.

I'm at the point I hope they decide to move on from Beal. IMO the team is just more enjoyable when he's not there. He's like a cloud that hangs over the team. I almost wouldn't even care if he just walks and we get nothing. Of course I understand we are a better team with him. But the thought of signing him to the Super Max is just a crusher.

Right now I'm enjoying watching Kispert at SG and seeing him improving. I like the way the ball is moving, and the team chemistry.

I guess we'll have a new "Big 3" with Beal, Porzingis & Kuzma.

This big three will have a hard time living up to the last one. John Wall, Jordan Crawford, and Andray Baltche would have won a championship together if just a couple more breaks went their way.

Baltche....

Our Captain! Could of been a star. Instead will go down in history as the guy with poop in his shoe.

[payitforward]

The guy's name is Blatche not Baltche.

Kuzma's not a bad comparison w/ Dray, come to think of it -- which should give you an informed idea of how Kuzma has actually been....

On their careers overall, Dray was better than Kuz. & with Brooklyn in 2012-13 he was significantly better overall than Kuzma has been in any season.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

The guy's name is Blatche not Baltche.

Kuzma's not a bad comparison w/ Dray, come to think of it -- which should give you an informed idea of how Kuzma has actually been....

On their careers overall, Dray was better than Kuz. & with Brooklyn in 2012-13 he was significantly better overall than Kuzma has been in any season.

Yeah we know it's Blatche... It was a reference to something that happened with him, I can't remember now. But it was something like he came out one time and the name on his jersey said Baltche. I can't remember. But whatever it was it was hilarious! It's obscure, but 9 and 20 remembered it and it made me laugh!!!

[AFM]

yeah I remember. I feel like I was at that game. They messed up his jersey, it had "BALTCHE" on the back. PIF once again exposing himself....

[SUPERBALLMAN]

yeah I remember. I feel like I was at that game. They messed up his jersey, it had "BALTCHE" on the back. PIF once again exposing himself....

That's so great! I was at the game where they had decided they were going to make him the face of the franchise and they gave him a mic before the game and he introduced himself to the crowd "I'm your Captain".

[AFM]

yeah I remember. I feel like I was at that game. They messed up his jersey, it had "BALTCHE" on the back. PIF once again exposing himself....

That's so great! I was at the game where they had decided they were going to make him the face of the franchise and they gave him a mic before the game and he introduced himself to the crowd "I'm your Captain".

Unfortunately I can beat this story. I was at the Wiz game, about 6 rows behind floor seats, when Ruffin blundered and threw the ball in the air and Mo Pete hit the game winner.

Then again, I was there when Gilbert hit that crazy shot from the logo against the Cavs. I guess it all evens out in the end...

[payitforward]

yeah I remember. I feel like I was at that game. They messed up his jersey, it had "BALTCHE" on the back. PIF once again exposing himself....

You're right, I forgot about that. You got me.

That's really big for you, huh...?

[dobrojim]

Mo Peters tied the game. Wiz of course lost in OT.

(I think)

[payitforward]

Any offseason plan needs to begin with one obvious fact.

This. Team. Needs. To. Rebuild. Period.

We don't need "a guy at this spot, & a guy at that one."

We don't have a single spot -- not one function or position -- that is handled by someone we are certain could play productively on a title-contending team of the future. Not one.

To get the obvious out of the way: Brad went way downhill this year. We don't know that he'll return to his career-best level of play. We don't know that he won't continue to slide. Which is more likely? We don't even know that....

Deni is certainly promising & a terrific defender, but we can't be sure how far he'll go towards fulfilling that promise.

Kispert has exceeded expectations as a rookie (mine at least) but we don't know yet how much room he still has develop.

Rui... it's great that he's back, & that he's shooting the 3 well. But, overall, he's undeniably a 24-year old who hasn't yet looked at all like a difference-maker. Still, he's improved an important skill. That gives one the idea that there may be some meaningful growth left in his game. Maybe.

Bryant had a couple of outstanding seasons 2 & 3 years ago, but that's in the past, & he hasn't yet shown he'll be fully back from his acl injury.

Gafford seems unable to give more than 20 minutes a game. Kuzma is a streaky role-player. Porzingis? Give me a break. KCP is heading downhill in a hurry. Ish is Ish.

That leaves Carey & Todd -- a couple of very young long-shots obviously -- along with Neto & Gill (back-bench at best), & our 2-way guys, Winston & Ayayi.

We're closer to the bottom than we are to the top. In fact, we're closer to the bottom than we are to the middle of the pack.

[AFM]

yeah I remember. I feel like I was at that game. They messed up his jersey, it had "BALTCHE" on the back. PIF once again exposing himself....

You're right, I forgot about that. You got me.

That's really big for you, huh...?

I'm just giving you a hard time old man....

[dckingsfan]

Spoiler:

Any offseason plan needs to begin with one obvious fact.

This. Team. Needs. To. Rebuild. Period.

We don't need "a guy at this spot, & a guy at that one."

We don't have a single spot -- not one function or position -- that is handled by someone we are certain could play productively on a title-contending team of the future. Not one.

To get the obvious out of the way: Brad went way downhill this year. We don't know that he'll return to his career-best level of play. We don't know that he won't continue to slide. Which is more likely? We don't even know that....

Deni is certainly promising & a terrific defender, but we can't be sure how far he'll go towards fulfilling that promise.

Kispert has exceeded expectations as a rookie (mine at least) but we don't know yet how much room he still has develop.

Rui... it's great that he's back, & that he's shooting the 3 well. But, overall, he's undeniably a 24-year old who hasn't yet looked at all like a difference-maker. Still, he's improved an important skill. That gives one the idea that there may be some meaningful growth left in his game. Maybe.

Bryant had a couple of outstanding seasons 2 & 3 years ago, but that's in the past, & he hasn't yet shown he'll be fully back from his acl injury.

Gafford seems unable to give more than 20 minutes a game. Kuzma is a streaky role-player. Porzingis? Give me a break. KCP is heading downhill in a hurry. Ish is Ish.

That leaves Carey & Todd -- a couple of very young long-shots obviously -- along with Neto & Gill (back-bench at best), & our 2-way guys, Winston & Ayayi.

We're closer to the bottom than we are to the top. In fact, we're closer to the bottom than we are to the middle of the pack.

First, we do need to rebuild and a supermax to Beal is not the way to do that. Clearly we should have trade him last year and pulled in a pick load. And I don't disagree with your assessment that we are nearer to the bottom than the middle.

Clearly C is a problem with a Porzingis/Gafford (Bryant isn't signed for next year) rotation. Who knows - maybe they can play 24 minutes a game and play the entire season - I doubt it though. And I think we can take Carey (and Todd for that matter) out of the discussion at least for this upcoming season.

Having said all that, I think we should first look at the forward position.

Forward: Kispert, Avidja, Hachimura, Kuzma. Note that I don't have KCP here - he is a guard in forwards clothing. Wes played small this year and I think that was a mistake. Although in the last few games he seems to have receieved the memo. Your point - none of them are starting caliber forwards on a championship team. But the other point is we don't know how they are going to develop AND I think they could be in a rotation on a championship team.

So, what is my point. Yes, you select BPA. But if there is a guard or C available that should influence the decision.

But one player in this years draft will not an entire roster make. Tommy has been way better than the previous GM but... realizing where you are at and convincing management didn't get done.

Beal is still the elephant in the room. And a supermax will be a limiting factor even if the argument is that he could be traded sometime in the future.

[NatP4]

I kinda like Frank Ntilikina as a partial MLE candidate. He’s made himself into a solid rotational player with elite defense and passable 3pt shooting. Had good on/off numbers for Dallas this year, still only 23.

Maybe split that MLE and go bring back Otto (who is back to being an elite role player), and just know that he might only give you 20 minutes a night for 50 or so games.

Like I said in the draft thread, I’m trading down for the Spurs picks and taking Braun and Daniels. All in all, you would be adding 4 guys that will all be plus defenders on the perimeter. Give Daniels the keys to the team from day 1, he was a massively positive impact player in the G already.

Kuzma still goes to some team on draft night for a late 1st. We turn that into Walker Kessler. We turn the Dallas 2nd into Trevion Williams.

Daniels Ntilikina Ayayi
Beal KCP Braun
Kispert Otto
Avdija Hachimura Williams
Porzingis Gafford Kessler