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Political Roundtable Part XXXIV

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#141 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:14 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:Awesome so if I murder a bunch of Trump supporters to save America that would be totally fine?
Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#142 » by doclinkin » Fri Feb 21, 2025 1:16 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:Awesome so if I murder a bunch of Trump supporters to save America that would be totally fine?
Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.


I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#143 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:29 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.


I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.


Also the blue states are the richest states. Cities, that vote overwhelmingly blue, are where all the jobs are. Red states are net recipients of federal welfare payments. Trump voters seem to value hating libtards more than their own self interest. Fine! Enjoy your poverty!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#144 » by doclinkin » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:06 pm

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Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.


I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.


Also the blue states are the richest states. Cities, that vote overwhelmingly blue, are where all the jobs are. Red states are net recipients of federal welfare payments. Trump voters seem to value hating libtards more than their own self interest. Fine! Enjoy your poverty!


They would just blame the blue states not wanting to pay taxes as the cause for the Reds' struggles. Trying to incite more resentment. gin up trouble between the states. Kick off that good old civil war, so that the billionaires again dodge blame by pitting regular folks against the sodom and gomorrah on both coasts.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#145 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:39 pm

doclinkin wrote:
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.


I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#146 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:00 pm

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Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.


I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#147 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:04 pm

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doclinkin wrote:
I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.


I don't think their current plan of firing hundreds of thousands of vets from their federal jobs, and gutting the VA, and cutting military benefits and military family jobs, and firing generals and competent officers is going to lead to the military cracking down on their neighbors.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#148 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:06 pm

doclinkin wrote:
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doclinkin wrote:
I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.


Also the blue states are the richest states. Cities, that vote overwhelmingly blue, are where all the jobs are. Red states are net recipients of federal welfare payments. Trump voters seem to value hating libtards more than their own self interest. Fine! Enjoy your poverty!


They would just blame the blue states not wanting to pay taxes as the cause for the Reds' struggles. Trying to incite more resentment. gin up trouble between the states. Kick off that good old civil war, so that the billionaires again dodge blame by pitting regular folks against the sodom and gomorrah on both coasts.
It really seems inevitable to me.

There were riots in the 1960s. Essentially, the same foes will go at it again.

Honestly, I think our board leans left, and Democratic but our moral high ground is going to get us slaughtered like the Native Americans and crushed like George Floyd. Martin Luther King made many quotes about America right before he was killed. The fascists are just now openly doing the bidding of the billionaires who've secretly run things all along. America has been the principal purveyor of evil. Not you or me. We're pawns in the game.

I want to see what young, idealistic, right-thinking people who are not intrinsically evil do. Will they consider themselves the patriots, like many service members who support and defend against enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC? Will they push back against Elon and Orange Man? How can they win?

Most Americans only care about money. If stealing all the minerals in the Ukraine lines their pockets, they're good with betrayal.

I'm rambling. Bottom line: I think we're entering God's wrath as this country is wicked overall. I want to be prayed up. Maybe one day I can move to Africa.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#149 » by montestewart » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:20 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
doclinkin wrote:
I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.

I'm not so confident about that
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#150 » by montestewart » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:22 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#151 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:23 pm

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doclinkin wrote:
I think it would start with a tax revolt. If they are taxing citizens funds that are rerouted to corruption & lining billionaires pockets, instead of delivering services that our reps have voted into law, then why continue to fund them? Send the $ to your state instead.

Repugnicans wanted to return power to the states. Cool. You got it. The blue state coasts control the ports and commerce. Industry. Etc.
How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.
You're DEFINITELY right about that.

My Dad flew two combat tours in Vietnam. My ex-wife and I are both veterans. My youngest son is a Marine. A lot of my fraternity brothers and high school friends were military. All of us Black, BTW.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#152 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:28 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.
You're DEFINITELY right about that.

My Dad flew two combat tours in Vietnam. My ex-wife and I are both veterans. My youngest son is a Marine. A lot of my fraternity brothers and high school friends were military. All of us Black, BTW.

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:How much power would governors of blue states would have if pitted against the (red) president, who commands the national guard?


I think the Republicans would be unpleasantly surprised at how unwilling the military would be to shoot at Americans, begging them for mercy in their native tongue. Republicans talk a big game about how much they hate libtards but I don't think they have any idea what it would be like to shoot someone like me in the face.

I'm not so confident about that
Here's why I think it would be a civil war.

Individual commanders would order to commence firing. Just like with Kent State, some soldiers would open fire.

However, the US army is fairly integrated (Black and blue). It would be a mixed bag.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#153 » by bsilver » Fri Feb 21, 2025 7:12 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:Awesome so if I murder a bunch of Trump supporters to save America that would be totally fine?
Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.

Succession is always a fantasy unless you're ready to die and lose in the end, anyway. The country's divide isn't just state by state. In "blue" Connecticut where I am, the cities are always D and the countryside and towns are R. And who has the guns? A lot more in the rural areas.
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Post#154 » by closg00 » Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:01 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#155 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:09 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Perhaps by 2028, a civil war will become a reality.


Well, pretty soon the only option will be to secede, much as that sucks for people like me in red states. If the Republicans hate us this much, just let us go. There doesn't have to be any bloodshed.

Succession is always a fantasy unless you're ready to die and lose in the end, anyway. The country's divide isn't just state by state. In "blue" Connecticut where I am, the cities are always D and the countryside and towns are R. And who has the guns? A lot more in the rural areas.
Exactly. Red has the guns. Blue will die. Just like Native Americans after Teddy Roosevelt and others finished ethnic cleansing.

Pretty much all the A10 pilots are white. I'm a retired AF Capt. I never saw another black staff weather officer.

I'm pretty sure once DOGE evaluates military "efficiency," there's going to be a dossier on every senior military leader. Personnel will face courts of military justice on "trumped up" charges if they don't comply.

It's not pretty what I foresee.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#156 » by Zonkerbl » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:01 am

Lol there's no guns in the city. That's funny.
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Post#157 » by AFM » Sat Feb 22, 2025 12:14 am

Yeah the dems have all the illegal guns with the numbers scratched off.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#158 » by Wizardspride » Sat Feb 22, 2025 2:54 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#159 » by bsilver » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:11 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Lol there's no guns in the city. That's funny.

The Rs have the guns. The rural areas have the guns. By large margins.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXIV 

Post#160 » by bsilver » Sat Feb 22, 2025 3:12 pm

AFM wrote:Yeah the dems have all the illegal guns with the numbers scratched off.

Yeah. The Crips and the Bloods will be fighting for democracy.
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