Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011

[WizarDynasty]

if booker can start for us at s/f derrick williams can definitety start for us there. I wouldn't get so high on him until i know what are draft spot will be though.

[Benjammin]

Beasley's perimeter game wasn't as polished as Williams. Beasley was a low post monster in college and had to step out on the perimeter once he got to the NBA because of size limitations.

Really, there are a lot of parallels regarding Beasley & Jamison. Jamison was a monster in the post at UNC. A really great finisher down low, was like a friggin pogo stick in college with his quick jumping ability. Once he got to the NBA, he had to develop his game away from the basket to succeed and struggled for a while as he transitioned to SF.

Williams already has a developed game away from the basket. That will help him make a quick adjustment once he gets to the NBA.

It would also appear that Williams doesn't have the love affair with Mary Jane that Sleepy Eyes Michael Beasley does.

[Dat2U]

Right now these are the only guys I'd be considering for our lottery pick:

SF Derrick Williams
CE Enes Kanter
SF Perry Jones

Unless were drafting 6th or later I wouldn't consider Barnes, Sullinger, Valanciunas or T. Jones.

I think Kyrie Irving is pretty good but overrated. He's a very very weak #1 pick.

I wish there was a starting job available in a Wizards uniform for Kemba Walker, he's a stud and definitely one of the five best players in the draft.

[Dark Faze]

Williams is best at PF and hasn't looked undersized at any point during the tournament...

The center position is where the defensive anchor should come from...there aren't any Kevin Garnetts coming out for a while, so living with a perfect match for Wall offensively and an all-star potential PF should serve Wizards fans well enough.

I'm hoping we can make great draft moves, win significantly more games next year and attract a talent like Dwight Howard--who's options in free agency that year aren't as numerous or attractive as it may seem right now.

If Wall can accelerate at a level like Westbrook/Rose, and we can pick up WIlliams and some draft picks, win some games next year...who knows who we could attract in free agency.

[closg00]

I think draft.net correctly lists Williams as the #1 prospect, NBA-ready and very versatile. We've got to come-away with Williams or Kanter out of this draft.

[Dat2U]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

[hands11]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

You have nothing to back that up so there is no reason for people to let go of the idea.

Getting Howard in the future is nothing like getting Wade this last year.

[hands11]

Well if they can get Derrick, the combination of him, Booker, and Seraphin could be crushing on other teams. If McGee can develop more, there could be some nasty combination. And lots of dunks.

Plus, he can shoot the 3 ball. Get him about there with Nick and Wall driving. I can see this working.

[Dat2U]

Yeah, I'm sure Dwight is plotting his escape from Disney World to come to the Nation's Capital. I bet he sleeps with a Josh Howard Wizards uni dreaming that he's the Howard wearing the white & blue with gold trim. LOL. Especially considering he's got Gil in his ear to tell him how Ernie, Ted & the entire front office had Gil's back the entire time while he was in DC, especially the last year.

Man, I want what some of y'all are smoking.

[The Consiglieri]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

You have nothing to back that up so there is no reason for people to let go of the idea.

Getting Howard in the future is nothing like getting Wade this last year.

Well, boards are for speculation but whaat really is the point in speculating about Howard. Dat is right. There is zero chance that happens. Indeed one of the things that really strikes me as odd about the bullets forever article is the implication that the rebuild hinges on the draft in June. June is important but I think it's absolute fantasy for anyone to think this team will be drafting mid first next year. I have every expectation next years record will place us smack dab in the bottom 4-8 teams in the league again, with another shot at an elite guy. In '13 the story may be different, but I'd be shocked if we won more than 30 games next season. That is incidentally one of the many reasons there's no chance Dwight we'll come.

[Dark Faze]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

Id say its a different situation. Considering the cap changes that are likely coming it makes a big difference..especially with a vast majority of the great players he'd like to play with having received huge dollars already.

Financially the only thing even possible for him right now is to join Deron in Jersey or Paul...and both aren't guaranteed chips by any means.

I think he stays in Orlando, and yes it is a pipe dream, but I'm just saying IF we make great choices, our young guys develop and we somehow look like an up and coming version of the Bulls/Thunder then it might be an attractive option for him.

But yea..low percentage chance of it happening.

But I'm surprised you'd be interested in Perry...he's never showed desire or won at any level really.

[BruceO]

i was loling in my head trying to picture an opposing team players face driving into the paint only to meet a pf/c combo of dwight and javale lol. how many blocked shots per game would they have combined lol?

[hands11]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

Id say its a different situation. Considering the cap changes that are likely coming it makes a big difference..especially with a vast majority of the great players he'd like to play with having received huge dollars already.

Financially the only thing even possible for him right now is to join Deron in Jersey or Paul...and both aren't guaranteed chips by any means.

I think he stays in Orlando, and yes it is a pipe dream, but I'm just saying IF we make great choices, our young guys develop and we somehow look like an up and coming version of the Bulls/Thunder then it might be an attractive option for him.

But yea..low percentage chance of it happening.

But I'm surprised you'd be interested in Perry...he's never showed desire or won at any level really.

So there is a chance. That is all people are saying. So what is the harm in throwing that out there once in a while. We are here to speculate some and no one want to speculate about building a bad team. It isn't like anyone is banking on it though. For now, they are building and traying to keep the cap number good while adding assets and growing others.

Glad so see you took the compromise position. First things first. We need to know what the new CBA brings, discover what pick we get and who we add in the draft. With Ted as owner and talented young players, this will look more attractive if they keep doing the right next thing.

[DaRealHibachi]

if booker can start for us at s/f derrick williams can definitety start for us there. I wouldn't get so high on him until i know what are draft spot will be though.

+1

If Rashard can start for us at the 3, Williams can also...

Wall/Young/Williams/Dray/McGee is a huge starting line-up...

[Ruzious]

You need legit size & defense at both the 4 and 5 to go deep in the playoffs unless you've got Dwight or a prime-Shaq or Duncan. I.E. One of the all time greats. A transcendent big down low.

And we all need to let the Dwight fantasy die. We've got as much of a shot of signing Dwight as we did of signing Dwyane Wade this past offseason.

So, Miami has not chance to go deep in the playoffs, since they have nothing but barely hanging on journeymen at center and mediocre at best defender Chris Bosh at PF. Boston's got 35 year old KG at PF and a bunch of senior citizens at center - Big Baby plays 29 minutes a game for them - so they're not going anywhere? Oh, I'm sorry... they have Troy freaking Murphy... now. Who - besides Orlando - in the East qualifies under your guidelines? Apparently just Chicago - since they're built around 38 year old Kurt Thomas.

[pancakes3]

if booker can start for us at s/f derrick williams can definitety start for us there. I wouldn't get so high on him until i know what are draft spot will be though.

+1

If Rashard can start for us at the 3, Williams can also...

Wall/Young/Williams/Dray/McGee is a huge starting line-up...

i'm not ok with the 20 million dollar man riding pine, especially when he's still pretty darn good - guaranteed better than some rook. we can draft williams, or perry jones, or some other 3, but i don't like the idea of him starting ahead of shard. personally, i think we should look into packaging the pick for cousins or monroe. As we have seen in these past few weeks, our frontcourt depth is wafer-thin, and that a 3rd big man between McGee and Blatche will make all the difference.

[nate33]

I just don't understand all this concern that Derrick Williams is a tweener. He looks to me like he's a legit PF. His is strong, fairly long, and has a solid base. Sure, he might have a little trouble stopping Aldridge or Garnett on the turnaround J, but who doesn't? He'll match up just fine with most PF's in the league - at least he will once he fills out a bit more in the next couple of years. The kid is only 19.

I love his skillset. He'll be great on the pick and pop because he's automatic with the jumper and he has the ability to pump-fake-and-drive. He also finishes well and knows how to draw contact.

One other thing I like about him: with about 2 minutes to go in the Duke game, with the outcome already decided, Coach K decided to pull Nolan Smith and Kyle Singler out of the game during free throws. The crowd gave the seniors a nice ovation. Derrick Williams raised his hands upward to the crowd to try and get the crowd to be louder. That's a classy move.

[nate33]

Yeah, I'm sure Dwight is plotting his escape from Disney World to come to the Nation's Capital. I bet he sleeps with a Josh Howard Wizards uni dreaming that he's the Howard wearing the white & blue with gold trim. LOL. Especially considering he's got Gil in his ear to tell him how Ernie, Ted & the entire front office had Gil's back the entire time while he was in DC, especially the last year.

Man, I want what some of y'all are smoking.

Right now, it's a pipe dream. But if Wall breaks out next year along with somebody else (either McGee, Blatche, Booker or our rookie) and we win 40 games, the opinion of the franchise will change. Winning changes everything.

Nobody thought much of OKC in Durant's second season. They won 23 games with Durant, Westbrook, Green, Thabo and Collison. The next year, they won 50 and we're being labeled the next great team.

It's definitely possible to change the image of a team. My only concern is that it'll take one year longer than we have. I think we'll be pretty good in 2012/13. But unfortunately, Howard is a free agent before that season.

[Ruzious]

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Derrick Williams measures. I still say, he's a little over 6'9 with good length and 240 - not a big PF - but not really under-sized - just a bit smaller than Amare. If he's under 6'9, then there'd be an issue.

[eitanr]

I feel Kanter is more of a project and I'd rather see more proven players coming out. Perry Jones is smelling more and more like a bust in the Rodney White light, still considering the draft, he may need to be taken if Washington gets the 6th pick and he's there.