Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVI

[DCZards]

He's really gotta be traded this year. Bringing back 80% (or whatever figure it is) for the salary match of 38 million will be that much harder for a trade.

You've also got to do it before the year is up if you want any chance of watching Sato/Beal/Porter/Howard. Sato is going to be RUNNING away from DC after this season unless we show him some loyalty quickly.

If the Zards do trade Wall I hope it's for a starting quality PG or a young PG with considerably upside. There's a lot to like about Sato, but I don't consider him a quality NBA starter.

[Error Afflalo]

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I would do this in a second. Hell, I'd do it without the pick.

[Dat2U]

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I would do this in a second. Hell, I'd do it without the pick.

I wouldn't. Aaron Gordon is meh. I'm not interested in re-arranging deck chairs plus having to see a motivated Wall a couple of times a year.

To trade Wall in the division I'd want to things:

A 2019 unprotected pick
Jonathan Issac

[Dat2U]

He's really gotta be traded this year. Bringing back 80% (or whatever figure it is) for the salary match of 38 million will be that much harder for a trade.

You've also got to do it before the year is up if you want any chance of watching Sato/Beal/Porter/Howard. Sato is going to be RUNNING away from DC after this season unless we show him some loyalty quickly.

Who cares about a Sato/Beal/Porter/Howard core?

Are we supposed to be excited about that core or something?

I hope having a bunch of professionals lead the way to 40 wins isn't the goal here.

[Error Afflalo]

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I would do this in a second. Hell, I'd do it without the pick.

I wouldn't. Aaron Gordon is meh. I'm not interested in re-arranging deck chairs plus having to see a motivated Wall a couple of times a year.

To trade Wall in the division I'd want to things:

A 2019 unprotected pick
Jonathan Issac

I view this trade as the first step in reshaping the roster. Not only do we get a ton of cap relief next year and beyond, getting Gordon also decreases the likelihood of offering Markieff a stupid contract in 2019.

As others have stated, the time to move Wall is now, before the extension kicks in. However, Ernie can't be trusted to move him. A Wall trade represents a major shift, whether that's a full rebuild or serious retool. If Ernie is allowed to make that move, Ted will allow him to see another rebuild through. There aren't enough words to describe how big of a disaster that would be.

Man, we're in a terrible spot.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

He's really gotta be traded this year. Bringing back 80% (or whatever figure it is) for the salary match of 38 million will be that much harder for a trade.

You've also got to do it before the year is up if you want any chance of watching Sato/Beal/Porter/Howard. Sato is going to be RUNNING away from DC after this season unless we show him some loyalty quickly.

If the Zards do trade Wall I hope it's for a starting quality PG or a young PG with considerably upside. There's a lot to like about Sato, but I don't consider him a quality NBA starter.

Take a look at how D'Aaron Fox and Dennis Schroder are doing. Reggie Jackson is healing and rounding back to where he was.

I would think salary cap relief and one of the above IF Wall is traded.

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[Dat2U]

He's really gotta be traded this year. Bringing back 80% (or whatever figure it is) for the salary match of 38 million will be that much harder for a trade.

You've also got to do it before the year is up if you want any chance of watching Sato/Beal/Porter/Howard. Sato is going to be RUNNING away from DC after this season unless we show him some loyalty quickly.

If the Zards do trade Wall I hope it's for a starting quality PG or a young PG with considerably upside. There's a lot to like about Sato, but I don't consider him a quality NBA starter.

Take a look at how D'Aaron Fox and Dennis Schroder are doing. Reggie Jackson is healing and rounding back to where he was.

I would think salary cap relief and one of the above IF Wall is traded.

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D'Aaron Fox is certainly on his way up as a 2nd year PG should be.

As for Jackson and Schroder.... No. These players are not good. Sure, they are capable of having a good game but especially in Schroder's case he's got a long track record of being a significantly net negative player.

[Dat2U]

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I would do this in a second. Hell, I'd do it without the pick.

I wouldn't. Aaron Gordon is meh. I'm not interested in re-arranging deck chairs plus having to see a motivated Wall a couple of times a year.

To trade Wall in the division I'd want to things:

A 2019 unprotected pick
Jonathan Issac

I view this trade as the first step in reshaping the roster. Not only do we get a ton of cap relief next year and beyond, getting Gordon also decreases the likelihood of offering Markieff a stupid contract in 2019.

As others have stated, the time to move Wall is now, before the extension kicks in. However, Ernie can't be trusted to move him. A Wall trade represents a major shift, whether that's a full rebuild or serious retool. If Ernie is allowed to make that move, Ted will allow him to see another rebuild through. There aren't enough words to describe how big of a disaster that would be.

Man, we're in a terrible spot.

Chris Paul
Andrew Wiggins

We'll see more terrible deals added each season.

It's terrible spot if your Ernie. I think its significantly overblown although adding salary to this group makes no sense. Otto probably opts out next season too.

As long as Wall is healthy and productive.. I do think his deal is moveable. Especially right now before the contract extention kicks in.

[trast66]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I wouldn't. Aaron Gordon is meh. I'm not interested in re-arranging deck chairs plus having to see a motivated Wall a couple of times a year.

To trade Wall in the division I'd want to things:

A 2019 unprotected pick
Jonathan Issac

I view this trade as the first step in reshaping the roster. Not only do we get a ton of cap relief next year and beyond, getting Gordon also decreases the likelihood of offering Markieff a stupid contract in 2019.

As others have stated, the time to move Wall is now, before the extension kicks in. However, Ernie can't be trusted to move him. A Wall trade represents a major shift, whether that's a full rebuild or serious retool. If Ernie is allowed to make that move, Ted will allow him to see another rebuild through. There aren't enough words to describe how big of a disaster that would be.

Man, we're in a terrible spot.

Chris Paul
Andrew Wiggins

We'll see more terrible deals added each season.

It's terrible spot if your Ernie. I think its significantly overblown although adding salary to this group makes no sense. Otto probably opts out next season too.

As long as Wall is healthy and productive.. I do think his deal is moveable. Especially right now before the contract extention kicks in.

I think Wall with Howard's new post presence will put up career numbers. Now he's motivated to make defensive stops.

That to say pump the brakes on trading Wall for now


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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Porter is the one who gets traded IMO


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[Induveca]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Otto won the lottery, rest assure he opts in unfortunately. Guy reminds me so much of a Calbert Cheaney, just sort of stands there half the time. Then has a few teaser games to show you what he can do when he gets fired up.

Just doesn’t have the personality.

[dangermouse]

I honestly like the Wall for Butler trade more than Porter for Butler that I suggested. The Flexibility if he leaves is just as enticing as him staying. And thats coming from someone that has been dead against trading Wall every single time it has been brought up.

However, being realistic, it isnt going to happen unless Wall quits on the team or brings his gold plated desert eagle to work. For many of the reasons that others have highlighted.

[Sactowndog]

http://basketballnewsdaily.com/evaluating-otto-porter-jr-as-a-trade-target/
Pels looking like a trading partner for Porter.

If you want to trade Porter then I would talk with the Kings.

[Sactowndog]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Porter is the one who gets traded IMO


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Wiz trade Mahinmi, Porter, Bryant to Sac

Sac sends: Randolph, Shumpert, Koufous, Giles

Gets Wiz under tax this year and frees up cap space for next year. Wiz get a good young big prospect in Giles.

[pcbothwel]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Porter is the one who gets traded IMO


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Wiz trade Mahinmi, Porter, Bryant to Sac

Sac sends: Randolph, Shumpert, Koufous, Giles

Gets Wiz under tax this year and frees up cap space for next year. Wiz get a good young big prospect in Giles.

Ehhh, If we move Porter to cut cost then its not worth the additional cost to dump Mahinmi.

Keep it simple. Porter & Smith for Shump, Koufos, Giles, Top 12 protected 2020 1st (Becomes Best 2020 2nd & Best 2021 2nd).

Another deal could be Rivers, Smith,& Oubre for Koufos & Ferrell.

Not sure either are my best iterations, but both are feasible.

[Sactowndog]

Porter is the one who gets traded IMO


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Wiz trade Mahinmi, Porter, Bryant to Sac

Sac sends: Randolph, Shumpert, Koufous, Giles

Gets Wiz under tax this year and frees up cap space for next year. Wiz get a good young big prospect in Giles.

Ehhh, If we move Porter to cut cost then its not worth the additional cost to dump Mahinmi.

Keep it simple. Porter & Smith for Shump, Koufos, Giles, Top 12 protected 2020 1st (Becomes Best 2020 2nd & Best 2021 2nd).

Another deal could be Rivers, Smith,& Oubre for Koufos & Ferrell.

Not sure either are my best iterations, but both are feasible.

I would do it but we don’t have our 19 so can’t send you our 2020 1st. Could send a number of seconds however.

Not sure why you wouldn’t want to dump Mahinmi for Randolph?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Otto won the lottery, rest assure he opts in unfortunately. Guy reminds me so much of a Calbert Cheaney, just sort of stands there half the time. Then has a few teaser games to show you what he can do when he gets fired up.

Just doesn’t have the personality.

I didn't agree with you before but now I do. Cheaney was a great player a very few nights. He never developed after his rookie deal years. He surely had all the tools to be better but he was not an alpha.

Otto Porter was much better when John Wall was out last season. His biggest challenge is to stay injury-free.

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[Dark Faze]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

He'd be a fool to opt out. Nobody is maxing him in the current market.

[Dat2U]

I did not realize Otto could opt out after next season. Baring injury he certainly will. Have to get a competent GM in here to spend Ted’s money.

Otto won the lottery, rest assure he opts in unfortunately. Guy reminds me so much of a Calbert Cheaney, just sort of stands there half the time. Then has a few teaser games to show you what he can do when he gets fired up.

Just doesn’t have the personality.

I saw someone else make this comparison on twitter and its absolutely ridiculous. Otto is by far the better player. It's not even up for the debate.