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Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing

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IS IT TIME TO FIRE ERNIE GRUNFELD?

1) Yes, I believe it is time for EG to go now.
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2) Ted should let him go at the end of the season.
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3) No, Ted needs to give him more time..(DESPITE THE FACT ERNIE HAS BEEN GM SINCE 2003)
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1421 » by closg00 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:45 pm

The Celts send a star-player (Rondo) to the D-League to get back into game-shape. Grunfeld rarely used or uses the D-League.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1422 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:09 am

Jay81 wrote:saw an article on twitter today that said McPhee is likely gone in the offseason if the caps have a bad playoff run. His contract is also expiring


Well, with 93% of this board wanting him gone, my guess is we could see two GMs disappear at once.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1423 » by FAH1223 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:00 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
Jay81 wrote:saw an article on twitter today that said McPhee is likely gone in the offseason if the caps have a bad playoff run. His contract is also expiring


Well, with 93% of this board wanting him gone, my guess is we could see two GMs disappear at once.


Lol @ Ted doing two GM searches at the same time. I doubt it, but I'm just hoping it does happen. Both the Caps and the Wizards need new faces running the front office.

Can't believe McPhee has been the GM since 1997. Ernie since 2003.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1424 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:02 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
Jay81 wrote:saw an article on twitter today that said McPhee is likely gone in the offseason if the caps have a bad playoff run. His contract is also expiring


Well, with 93% of this board wanting him gone, my guess is we could see two GMs disappear at once.


Lol @ Ted doing two GM searches at the same time. I doubt it, but I'm just hoping it does happen. Both the Caps and the Wizards need new faces running the front office.

Can't believe McPhee has been the GM since 1997. Ernie since 2003.


Einstein's definition of insanity :)
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1425 » by closg00 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:49 pm

Every time I see Kendal Marshall's box score numbers and Maynor's DNP's, I am shoveling another pile of coal unto my fire pit of hate for Ernie Grunfeld.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1426 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:30 pm

closg00 wrote:Every time I see Kendal Marshall's box score numbers and Maynor's DNP's, I am shoveling another pile of coal unto my fire pit of hate for Ernie Grunfeld.


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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1427 » by Nivek » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:44 pm

Kendall Marshall with a PPA of 111 so far this season. A pretty significant number of those minutes have come against starters. Not too bad. Woulda been nice as a backup PG for the Wizards.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1428 » by mhd » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:31 pm

Seriously, how EG still has a job remains a mystery to me. This entire board could clearly do a better job, and we have .1% of the data and time EG has.

I screamed for Marshall to be retained, but did EG do it? Nope, he'd rather hope and pray Singleton and Ves turn into something. Despite ALL of the evidence that Maynor was horrible in training camp and pre-season, he still refused to even consider Marshall.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1429 » by payitforward » Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:33 pm

Nivek wrote:Kendall Marshall with a PPA of 111 so far this season. A pretty significant number of those minutes have come against starters. Not too bad. Woulda been nice as a backup PG for the Wizards.

Yep. And Phil Pressey came in and showed that he has promise too.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1430 » by hands11 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:46 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:(I originally posted this in another thread, but I think it belongs here.)

Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:33 pm

We have a deadline with doomsday, according to the Mayan calendar. The end occurs some time next month. :) Are any of you nervous? Anybody superstitious?

I am not nervous or superstitious. I am not into numerology either, but I know a little bit about numbers. The numbers 7, 11, and 13 are associated with luck, good and bad. Those numbers might bad for Ernie Grunfeld real soon. (FYI Here's a great link to scripture number significance.) If I were to go by the numbers, I could make a prediction.


To have a little fun, I predict the end of EG as GM will come 11/14/12 or 11/15/12. :wizard:

On 11/13/12, the Wizards play Charlotte. Just like we're all gonna get it in a month when the world comes to an end; this Tuesday, 11/13/12, marks the beginning of EGs end. Like Moses getting a glimpse of the Promised Land, Wizard fans will get a glimpse of what might be without Ernie because he's gonna get his first. (If the failsafe Mayan calendar and my prediction both come true, of course). Why do I say this? The numbers don't lie! :D

By the numbers, twelve represents completion or perfection. Thirteen represents a bad omen or rebellion. Eleven is associated with disorder and luck of fulfillment. Therefore, 11/13/12 is the perfect day for Ted Leonsis to rebel and to dissociate himself from Ernie Grunfeld, who will become unfulfilled after being fired. That day, 11/13/12, marks the beginning of a sequence of events that can set captive Wizard fans free….

A loss to the Bobcats is essential. If the Bobcats defeat the Wizards, Washington will have lost six straight. Six is another unfulfilling number, as both man and serpent were created the sixth day. Ted will go beast mode on Ernie following a loss to put the Wizards three games behind the lowly Bobcats. Because no one gets fired on the front end of a road game, the next day, 11/14/12, the second back-to-back road game, all will appear calm when the Wizards play at Dallas. Washington will likely drop to 0-7 after that game. Bingo! Seven is the number of perfection, completeness, and the fulfillment of a covenant. Loss number seven should be sufficient. It could end Ernie's run. FINALLY!

Lucky seven losses is when Wizard fans will hear the most unlikely, welcome, news in years. Ernie will be fired.


Before this thread ends for a part 2, had to give this a bump. Good stuff CCJ
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1431 » by hands11 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:55 am

hands11 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:45 pm

Lets see. He signed a two year contract around May this year, right.

So that puts the count down at around 18 mouths.


So we should have about 4 more months to go. That was always the case. Ted signed him for 2 years and 2 years was what he was going to get.

Premature GMejectulation Thread. :lol:
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1432 » by closg00 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:27 am

hands11 wrote:
hands11 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:45 pm

Lets see. He signed a two year contract around May this year, right.

So that puts the count down at around 18 mouths.


So we should have about 4 more months to go. That was always the case. Ted signed him for 2 years and 2 years was what he was going to get.

Premature GMejectulation Thread. :lol:


..and he didn't deserve the 2-year extension when he got it, the extension was ludicrous.

Ted doesn't like to fire people so he'll probably re-sign Ernie with great fan-far hailing our return to the playoffs as some kind great moral victory for which his Ernest must be rewarded. This thread will live-on.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1433 » by closg00 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:36 am

If Ernie had signed Blair, we would have this to look at court-side.
http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/201 ... rcFeatured
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1434 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:40 am

hands11 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:(I originally posted this in another thread, but I think it belongs here.)

Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:33 pm

We have a deadline with doomsday, according to the Mayan calendar. The end occurs some time next month. :) Are any of you nervous? Anybody superstitious?

I am not nervous or superstitious. I am not into numerology either, but I know a little bit about numbers. The numbers 7, 11, and 13 are associated with luck, good and bad. Those numbers might bad for Ernie Grunfeld real soon. (FYI Here's a great link to scripture number significance.) If I were to go by the numbers, I could make a prediction.


To have a little fun, I predict the end of EG as GM will come 11/14/12 or 11/15/12. :wizard:

On 11/13/12, the Wizards play Charlotte. Just like we're all gonna get it in a month when the world comes to an end; this Tuesday, 11/13/12, marks the beginning of EGs end. Like Moses getting a glimpse of the Promised Land, Wizard fans will get a glimpse of what might be without Ernie because he's gonna get his first. (If the failsafe Mayan calendar and my prediction both come true, of course). Why do I say this? The numbers don't lie! :D

By the numbers, twelve represents completion or perfection. Thirteen represents a bad omen or rebellion. Eleven is associated with disorder and luck of fulfillment. Therefore, 11/13/12 is the perfect day for Ted Leonsis to rebel and to dissociate himself from Ernie Grunfeld, who will become unfulfilled after being fired. That day, 11/13/12, marks the beginning of a sequence of events that can set captive Wizard fans free….

A loss to the Bobcats is essential. If the Bobcats defeat the Wizards, Washington will have lost six straight. Six is another unfulfilling number, as both man and serpent were created the sixth day. Ted will go beast mode on Ernie following a loss to put the Wizards three games behind the lowly Bobcats. Because no one gets fired on the front end of a road game, the next day, 11/14/12, the second back-to-back road game, all will appear calm when the Wizards play at Dallas. Washington will likely drop to 0-7 after that game. Bingo! Seven is the number of perfection, completeness, and the fulfillment of a covenant. Loss number seven should be sufficient. It could end Ernie's run. FINALLY!

Lucky seven losses is when Wizard fans will hear the most unlikely, welcome, news in years. Ernie will be fired.


Before this thread ends for a part 2, had to give this a bump. Good stuff CCJ


Sadly, like all those doomsday prophecy and Mayan calendar prognosticators who thought they knew when the end would occur, (FYI see Matthew 24:36 and Mark 13:32), I was wrong when I predicted Ernie's undoing. :(

Now, I'm wondering if Wizards fans are going to have to struggle through 40 years of EG, like Moses and the children of Israeal had to when they wandered around in the wilderness. We're 10 years in already. This is fortunately not likely, because he'd be around 90 before that happens.

However, Ted could give Ernie another 3 years and thus doom Wizard fans to an unlucky 13 years. :o

My guess right now is that despite all our protestations, the super friends (Ted and Ernie) will remain virtually conjoined for the duration, just like Abe and Wes were. In some capacity Ted is going to keep Ernie around, as long as he owns the Wizards.

(Hoping this prediction is just as wrong as the one made in 2012. :D )

Thanks for the bump hands. It made me smile. I obviously had a lot more passion for the team back then. :)
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1435 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:44 am

closg00 wrote:If Ernie had signed Blair, we would have this to look at court-side.
http://www.rantsports.com/clubhouse/201 ... rcFeatured


Blair did play in Russia briefly during the lockout. Dude has game and, apparently, much swagger off the court. Perhaps the model was a friend of Eva Longoria's or Tony Parker's, from when Blair was with the Spurs.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1436 » by hands11 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:14 am

It was a great post CCJ

Couldn't help myself but shine some light on it again.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1437 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:06 pm

If I were Ted, I would look back on EG's tenure with him objectively. EG has managed to put together a decent starting five, more or less. His team has underachieved primarily because of a lack of a bench.

Why is the bench so bad?
1) Vesely is a bust
2) Singleton is a bust
3) Kevin Seraphin is a disappointment
4) Blatche was run off the team - arguably a residual gungate effect. Zards got absolutely no assets in return, except for a little cap space.
5) Jordan Crawford was run off the team - that was blatant mismanagement by EG. Zards got absolutely nothing for him.
6) Javaris Crittendon -- *shudder*
7) Booker -- the only player currently on the bench who can be considered a net positive. And his contribution is barely adequate.
8) Porter -- jury's still out. Props for not selecting whatsisname the huge bust at #1, but why did we skip on Noel?

So, with the same luxury tax restrictions that everyone else has, EG has put together a starting five that, with some help from the bench, may sniff 50 wins someday, but because of his incompetence in the draft and incompetence mismanaging the assets he has, the bench is a huge net negative, resulting in a sub .500 team that will never, EVER contend for a championship.

Ted gave EG the benefit of the doubt and given him a chance to show what he can do. On the plus side, he has swung a few decent trade to surround Wall and Beal with a playoff quality starting five. On the minus side, he flubbed the Vesely pick, possibly flubbed the Porter pick (depending on how Noel turns out), failed to collect any significantly valuable assets among Booker, Singleton, and Kevin Seraphin, and pissed away valuable assets in Crawford and Blatche.

The best team EG can possibly assemble is a sub .500 team. Given the assets he has had to work with, that is a monumental failure. There is no reason this team should not be contending for home court in the playoffs by now. Losing Crawford and Blatche for nothing are enormous, fireable offenses -- those failures are directly responsible for our sub .500 record now. He should be fired at the end of the season.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1438 » by DCZards » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:42 pm

Zonk, that's a pretty on target analysis of the pros and cons of EG's tenure, particularly the cons. However, I disagree somewhat when it comes to Blatche and Crawford.

Yes, both are talented and sometimes make significant contributions to their teams. But both were also obviously real negatives off-the-court here in DC. Blatche's record of knuckleheadness is well-documented (even refused to go back into the game one time) and Crawford admits that he behaved badly after being benched.

So I see getting rid of both Blatche and Crawford as sorta addition by subtraction.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1439 » by nate33 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:43 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:So, with the same luxury tax restrictions that everyone else has, EG has put together a starting five that, with some help from the bench, may sniff 50 wins someday, but because of his incompetence in the draft and incompetence mismanaging the assets he has, the bench is a huge net negative, resulting in a sub .500 team that will never, EVER contend for a championship.

Nice post. My only objection is that I really don't think this roster can get to 50 wins. The only reason we're at a roughly .500 pace right now is because of the historically bad competition. In a normal season, we are 4 or 5 games under .500, not 1 game under. I expect some modest improvement as Beal develops faster than Nene declines, but we're only going to improve by a few games. I figure the team as currently constructed peaks at 45 wins, maybe 47 if the East remains really weak next year.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing 

Post#1440 » by Hypnotizer » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:02 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:7) Booker -- the only player currently on the bench who can be considered a net positive. And his contribution is barely adequate.


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