Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

[Ruzious]

NO seemed to be trying all season to dump Bledsoe, and I think that had a lot to do with the trade. Bledsoe might as well change his name to Scapegoat.

Guessing they wont exercise Winslow's team option. So, they will have the 10th pick and:

Morant/Bledsoe/Jones
Melton/Allen/Konchar
Brooks/Bane
Anderson/Clarke/Tillman/Porter
Adams/Jackson

I would guess they will shed another player in a "meaningless trade" to make room for the 10th pick, thin the PF position and beef up the C position.

Maybe they move one of Tillman or Clarke?

Why do they have to move anyone? Not to say they won't, but I don't see a need to speak of. But, I don't see this as a "win now" move at all. This is entirely about increasing the value of their draft assets.

They traded an expiring vet who isn't in their plans going forward in return for 2 vets, one of whom will be gone at the end of the year. Essentially, they added a year of Adams' salary for the benefit of moving up from 17 to 10 in R1 & from 51 to 40 in R2.

Plus, they also get a protected 2022 R1 pick via the Lakers in this deal.

It's a completely great move for them. Memphis' new FO looks like it's the best in the league.

Well yeah - it's not a win now move because it makes them worse in the short run - as Jonas is better than Adams - particularly on offense where he helped with spacing by learning to shoot 3's. They likely made this trade because they're targeting someone in particular at 10. And if they don't get that target, it's probably a bad trade by them.

[dckingsfan]

Seems like the Philly/Toronto trade scenario is ramping up with Lowry/Simmons at the heart of the deal.

I understand the Philly perspective. For Toronto, I would think they would then be looking at as many 3 point shooters as they can land if they do something like this. They have tremendous flexibility with their cap... I think only Pascal Siakam, Fred VanVleet, OG Anunoby & Malachi Flynn are guaranteed.

I think it would look something like:

Simmons/Flynn
VanVleet/Bembry
Anunoby/Watanabe
Siakam/FA
FA/Boucher
#4 pick

Clearly they would need a C that can spread the floor (those don't grow on trees). Watanabe, Anunoby, Boucher and VanVleet are reasonably good 3 point shooters - but they would need more.

[payitforward]

Well yeah - it's not a win now move because it makes them worse in the short run - as Jonas is better than Adams - particularly on offense where he helped with spacing by learning to shoot 3's. They likely made this trade because they're targeting someone in particular at 10. And if they don't get that target, it's probably a bad trade by them.

For sure, Valanciunas had his career-best year last year.

But... it doesn't have to be one particular person they're targeting at 10; there may be 2-3 guys they think fit the bill -- making the trade a likely success.

Even so, I can still see the deal for NO as well. They'll get a good player at 17, & they may have in mind to keep Valanciunas. Having a 5 who can shoot the 3 will make for some happy evenings for Zion!

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[I_Like_Dirt]

Seems like the Philly/Toronto trade scenario is ramping up with Lowry/Simmons at the heart of the deal.

I understand the Philly perspective. For Toronto, I would think they would then be looking at as many 3 point shooters as they can land if they do something like this. They have tremendous flexibility with their cap... I think only Pascal Siakam, Fred VanVleet, OG Anunoby & Malachi Flynn are guaranteed.

I think it would look something like:

Simmons/Flynn
VanVleet/Bembry
Anunoby/Watanabe
Siakam/FA
FA/Boucher
#4 pick

Clearly they would need a C that can spread the floor (those don't grow on trees). Watanabe, Anunoby, Boucher and VanVleet are reasonably good 3 point shooters - but they would need more.

Unless they send him in the deal in a sign and trade, they also have Gary Trent Jr. Not a C but he can shoot 3s. No idea what Philly is doing, though, and I'd be surprised if the Sixers traded him for what the Raptors would realistically offer.

Morey is on the Danny Ainge side of the GM spectrum where he makes almost all of his headway in trades where he rips off the other team, pats himself on the back through the media, and struggles if he can't find takers for his pitches. The rumors thus far are with teams like the Raptors, Spurs and Warriors who tend not to be good marks. I'm guessing the show is for some other teams he's trying to bait out. Hopefully teams call his bluff and dare him to keep Simmons all next season.

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The Knicks took two PG’s in the 2nd, including McBride

[dckingsfan]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

[Kanyewest]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

People like Woj are now speculating or perhaps indicating that Dragic being picked up means the Heat are going to acquire Kyle Lowry in a sign and trade. Raptors fans don't seem excited about getting Dragic although perhaps they would throw in a young prospect like Precious.

[nate33]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

People like Woj are now speculating or perhaps indicating that Dragic being picked up means the Heat are going to acquire Kyle Lowry in a sign and trade. Raptors fans don't seem excited about getting Dragic although perhaps they would throw in a young prospect like Precious.

With Dallas so far under the cap after dumping Richardson, they can now sign Lowry outright. That has taken away most of Toronto's leverage in a Lowry S&T. They'll take back anything they can get at this point. Either that or they'll outbid to retain Lowry.

[Ruzious]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

That surprised me a little, because Dragic looked like he lost a step last season - especially in the playoffs against Milwaukee. I think Miami's in a rough situation this season. They didn't have any picks. They have Butler and Bam - but not much else going forward. And neither of them shoot from outside. Herro has to take a big step forward this season. Ya know who could actually help them is Thomas Bryant - a big who can shoot from outside or inside.

[dckingsfan]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

That surprised me a little, because Dragic looked like he lost a step last season - especially in the playoffs against Milwaukee. I think Miami's in a rough situation this season. They didn't have any picks. They have Butler and Bam - but not much else going forward. And neither of them shoot from outside. Herro has to take a big step forward this season. Ya know who could actually help them is Thomas Bryant - a big who can shoot from outside or inside.

And with Kawhi Leonard becoming a UFA... I could see vets wanting to join a Butler/Leonard/Bam trio...

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[Kanyewest]

Interesting seeing Miami with only 6 players under contract @ ~92M now that the took the option on Dragic.

They do have 3 RFAs that I assume they will sign in Duncan Robinson, Kendrick Nunn and Max Strus.

This doesn't seem like the year to go wild on FAs.

People like Woj are now speculating or perhaps indicating that Dragic being picked up means the Heat are going to acquire Kyle Lowry in a sign and trade. Raptors fans don't seem excited about getting Dragic although perhaps they would throw in a young prospect like Precious.

With Dallas so far under the cap after dumping Richardson, they can now sign Lowry outright. That has taken away most of Toronto's leverage in a Lowry S&T. They'll take back anything they can get at this point. Either that or they'll outbid to retain Lowry.

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[Ruzious]

With Kawhi opting out, is there any chance he leaves LAC, or is he just doing this to get a long-term huge money deal wit LAC?

[Kanyewest]

With Kawhi opting out, is there any chance he leaves LAC, or is he just doing this to get a long-term huge money deal wit LAC?

Chris Haynes "It looks like [Kawhi] is expected to re-sign with the Clippers, but sources informed me that he will listen to other teams."

[Ruzious]

My pipedream is getting this guy.

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[nate33]

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This opens up my Sato to Washington idea.

[mhd]

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This opens up my Sato to Washington idea.

I think its supposed to be Lonzo to Chicago, Sato+filler (Thad Young) to Charlotte, Graham to NO.

[gambitx777]

That makes me very sad and I wonder how we could have gotten in on that.

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