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Political Roundtable Part XXIX

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1421 » by Ruzious » Mon Feb 8, 2021 10:04 pm

dobrojim wrote:^
It sounds like they did, or are planning to do, the right thing which is simply to say thank you.
And if the opportunity arises, look for something nice you could do for them.

For many years I had a very right wing neighbor. About 2 years ago they sold and moved away
after living there for probably at least 25 years, maybe 30. He was a super nice guy who
would always be helpful when I had a minor emergency around the house. We both understood
we were on opposite sides of a political fence but it never prevented us from being cordial.

I think his wife particularly had some loony beliefs akin to an earlier version of Q.
But they were never nasty about it. I could have had worse neighbors.

For about 20 years - when we used to use paper ballots and punch-card machines - I used to be the chief Democratic judge in my precinct at the elections. We had to have an equal number of Republican judges - including a chief Republican judge. We all got along famously, and it really never occurred to me to have a bad thought about my Republican counterpart. I had nothing but respect for her and I can't remember having an argument with her. Nowadayz, I have a much harder time seeing those kind of relationships happening. Some say things were always this contentious between people of different parties, but... they really weren't from my recollections.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1422 » by Wizardspride » Tue Feb 9, 2021 12:00 am

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1423 » by pancakes3 » Tue Feb 9, 2021 3:26 pm

yes. good. he can't hurt you any more, republicans. that is, unless you let him.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1424 » by dobrojim » Tue Feb 9, 2021 8:23 pm

This guy Bruce Castor is making all the pundits who made derisive comments about him
look really good. Freakin moron.

Edit to add- if the likelihood of something happening is basically zero, like
for instance the chances any of Golfy McBonespurs’ lawyers using the modifier
former (president) to describe their boss, is the number set at zero even though there could
be no under possible?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1425 » by dobrojim » Tue Feb 9, 2021 8:31 pm

White history month, why we need it.

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1426 » by Wizardspride » Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:54 am

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1427 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 11, 2021 1:27 pm

Hey where’s the guy that was going on and on about Group think and free speech. Shout out to all my first amendment Republicans and Conservatives. I’d love to get their opinion on how they can justify this actual government censorship

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1428 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:44 pm

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-impeachment-video-edited-remove-trumps-call-peace-before-riot-1568084

I wonder if the Dems will get a chance to respond to this after the Republican lawyers bring it up. It's clear now that "patriots" is Trump's code word for people willing to commit violent acts in his name.

Also it's one thing to call for 'peace' and another to say "I condemn violence, don't do it" In his mind peace will come once everyone is subjugated to his will
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1429 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:57 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-impeachment-video-edited-remove-trumps-call-peace-before-riot-1568084

I wonder if the Dems will get a chance to respond to this after the Republican lawyers bring it up. It's clear now that "patriots" is Trump's code word for people willing to commit violent acts in his name.

Also it's one thing to call for 'peace' and another to say "I condemn violence, don't do it" In his mind peace will come once everyone is subjugated to his will


This logic only works on the right wing brain. You have to ignore Trump’s history of stoking violence and everything he did leading up to Jan 6th and then ignoring how he didn’t tell them to stop after the terrorists attacked the capitol wanting to kill Mike Pence. Context matters and this is why right wingers can never defend their positions, they require you to completely divorce context from any argument. Like Trump saying protest peacefully and patriotically matters when he continued to stoke violence and did nothing even after the violence started? His defense team is going to show videos of Democrats supposedly calling for violence, don’t for a second believe that the context of those videos won’t be left out and the videos heavily edited.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1430 » by Zonkerbl » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:01 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1431 » by Ruzious » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:35 pm

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Let's say it like we know it is - Those terrorists were recruited by Trump to come to the Capitol. It was crystal clear why they came to the Capitol and obviously planned in detail. Trump and his 2 older sons were fully aware that the mob they recruited was capable and ready for violence, and they did whatever it took to motivate them - spewing contemptable lie after lie - as if they were leaders in Nazi Germany. When the news was announced to Trump that the terrorists invaded the Capitol building, by all reports - he was very pleased and didn't understand why the people around him weren't. There are no ifs ands or buts about this. He's a piece of garbage who needs to be convicted. The only questions remaining deal with who gave the tour of the Capitol to the terrorists and who gave them any other inside information as to where they could find their targets. If there were real justice, everyone in the WH and everyone in the Senate who pushed the lies about the election being fixed should also go to jail for inciting violence - everyone of them had a hand in it. And the 2 Trump older sons scum combo - obviously worked for Trump to encourage the violence and should similarly be convicted. Anyone capable of using their brains should see that all of these people are criminals against the US and should be held accountable in jail for their crimes.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1432 » by dobrojim » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:54 pm

I know I’m not the first nor will I be the last but here goes

If they don’t convict, there can be no discernible reason to include
Impeachment in the Constitution.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1433 » by dckingsfan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:43 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1434 » by Wizardspride » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:59 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1435 » by Ruzious » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:05 pm


It is a wonderful thing. I just wish they came up with a better term for it.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1436 » by dckingsfan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm

Ruzious wrote:

It is a wonderful thing. I just wish they came up with a better term for it.

Right! Reimagine is soooo much more powerful... just saying.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1437 » by Ruzious » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:08 pm

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If Trump were still President, I'd wonder - Did they out-bid New York for it?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1438 » by dobrojim » Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:42 am

A lot of what we call 'thought' is just mental activity

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1439 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:23 am

Graham, Cruz, and Lee are - by law - supposed to be impartial jurors. And they met with Trump's lawyers - presumably to advise them on how to defend Trump. I mean... Washington Team Football?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#1440 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:14 pm

"Decriminalize mental health issues" just doesn't have the same ring.

Reimagine doesn't work because it assumes you're still sticking with the old slave catcher idea. No. Police need to be explicitly decoupled from non-violent community interactions.

To be precise, there are lots of interactions where police training and guns are not required, and skills like mental health training are required. You have to be really clear - if you want cops to shoot less people, stop sending them where they aren't needed.

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#stopusingthepolicetosolvementalhealthproblems
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