Official Trade Thread Part XLVII

[prime1time]

How about this one....hear me out fellas:

Wizards receive: Anthony Davis
Mavericks receive: Middleton, Kispert, and Branham

Why for Wizards? AD plays the center spot, it moves Sarr to the more natural 4 spot. Starting 5 would be McCollum, Johnson, Bilal, Sarr, and Davis.
Why for Mavericks? Cap room, and it gets them out of the decision on whether to extend Davis.

Davis is due for a massive extension. My plan here would be to essentially sit him out on back to backs the rest of this season and just have him play in 20 games or so in order for us to continue tanking.

There is no chance Dallas gives away Anthony Davis merely for Kispert and expiring contracts. If they would do so, of course we jump on it, but then we should flip Davis to a team that is in a win-now window.

But if that was the cost for Davis, Chicago would easily offer the same package of expirings (Vucevic, Collins, Huerter) and throw in some picks.

I don't know. How much value does AD actually have? Luxury tax is very harsh, he can't stay healthy and he's due a super max extension. They aren't going to back any near what they would want. AD's value is as a free agent when you can sign him to a reasonable contract. No one is giving up major assets and then extending him at a super max lol.

[nate33]

How about this one....hear me out fellas:

Wizards receive: Anthony Davis
Mavericks receive: Middleton, Kispert, and Branham

Why for Wizards? AD plays the center spot, it moves Sarr to the more natural 4 spot. Starting 5 would be McCollum, Johnson, Bilal, Sarr, and Davis.
Why for Mavericks? Cap room, and it gets them out of the decision on whether to extend Davis.

Davis is due for a massive extension. My plan here would be to essentially sit him out on back to backs the rest of this season and just have him play in 20 games or so in order for us to continue tanking.

There is no chance Dallas gives away Anthony Davis merely for Kispert and expiring contracts. If they would do so, of course we jump on it, but then we should flip Davis to a team that is in a win-now window.

But if that was the cost for Davis, Chicago would easily offer the same package of expirings (Vucevic, Collins, Huerter) and throw in some picks.

I don't know. How much value does AD actually have? Luxury tax is very harsh, he can't stay healthy and he's due a super max extension. They aren't going to back any near what they would want. AD's value is as a free agent when you can sign him to a reasonable contract. No one is giving up major assets and then extending him at a super max lol.

He is under contract next year.

And the year after that is a player option that pays him $63M. It is not a foregone conclusion that he would opt out of that. I don't think any suitors will be lining up to give him a large extension at anything near that price. That would give his team leverage to negotiate a reasonable extension.

I don't think his contract situation is some kind of unique risk for an acquiring team. It's about par for the course. You get one full year under contract and leverage for a future negotiation.

I agree that Davis' value isn't the same as a superstar in his prime or anything. But it's nowhere near as low as being just a salary dump guy. He is still a top 15-ish player when on the court. And he shows up for the playoffs.

[nate33]

One more issue with Dallas on the Davis trade ideas.

They have their 2026 1st rounder
They only have their 2027 pick if it's top 2, otherwise, it conveys to Charlotte
Their 2028 pick is swapped by OKC, so it's a late pick
Their 2029 pick is swapped to HOU, so it's a late pick
Their 2030 pick is swapped to SAS, so it's a late pick

So they are not interested in a long rebuild. They would want to tank this year, but then start winning immediately afterward. I suppose that's not too hard with guys like Flagg, Lively, Gafford, Washington and Kyrie already on board. They key is getting Kyrie back (or trading him for a good young guard).

[prime1time]

There is no chance Dallas gives away Anthony Davis merely for Kispert and expiring contracts. If they would do so, of course we jump on it, but then we should flip Davis to a team that is in a win-now window.

But if that was the cost for Davis, Chicago would easily offer the same package of expirings (Vucevic, Collins, Huerter) and throw in some picks.

I don't know. How much value does AD actually have? Luxury tax is very harsh, he can't stay healthy and he's due a super max extension. They aren't going to back any near what they would want. AD's value is as a free agent when you can sign him to a reasonable contract. No one is giving up major assets and then extending him at a super max lol.

He is under contract next year.

And the year after that is a player option that pays him $63M. It is not a foregone conclusion that he would opt out of that. I don't think any suitors will be lining up to give him a large extension at anything near that price. That would give his team leverage to negotiate a reasonable extension.

I don't think his contract situation is some kind of unique risk for an acquiring team. It's about par for the course. You get one full year under contract and leverage for a future negotiation.

I agree that Davis' value isn't the same as a superstar in his prime or anything. But it's nowhere near as low as being just a salary dump guy. He is still a top 15-ish player when on the court. And he shows up for the playoffs.

63 million is a crazy amount of money to pay AD. Can't be a lot of teams that are willing to give up what Dallas might want. Have the cap space to pay AD and go deep into the luxury tax. And still be able to reasonably compete.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

If any contenders are in need of adding some offensive punch to their bench, we have some good candidates for trades with CJ, Kispert and Cam.

Dawkins has shown a knack for pulling 1st round picks in trade, the Gafford trade, and the Bagley/Johnny Davis for Smart + 1st deal as a couple examples.