NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 2

[pineappleheadindc]

Let's go Spurs!

[nate33]

Manu Ginobili is probably my favorite player of the past decade. I just LOVE watching him play.

[nate33]

Wow. I didn't realize the Spurs drafted Goran Dragic too.

[pancakes3]

This is awesome.

[pineappleheadindc]

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Yes! Spurs win!



Game 1 MVP: Spurs air conditioning saboteur.

[dandridge 10]

Kind of funny that LeBron complained during a time-out that "they are trying to smoke us out." Hey LeWhine, both teams were playing under the same conditions. Old man Tim Duncan can play the last 7 minutes but LeWhine can't. Classic. Go Spurs!

[pineappleheadindc]

That game is bait for data geeks, and we got a few of them on this board.

But lunchtime tomorrow, I anticipate analysis from Kevin and a data table from Nate that charts Lebron's win/loss record based on arena temperature.

[FAH1223]

Spurs should have fed Tim Duncan more. Him and Splitter were eating on the pick and roll because of the switches with smaller players.

Spoelstra wants to keep playing super small but the Spurs will force the switches. Diaw will start to post up more too.

I think OKC was the Spurs worst matchup. In this series, the Spurs should be able to get into the paint and get what they want.

If MIA traps the pick and roll, then you will have a wide open shooter on the corner.

Our Wizards exploited that in the regular season.

[Youheardme90]

Spurs should have fed Tim Duncan more. Him and Splitter were eating on the pick and roll because of the switches with smaller players.

Spoelstra wants to keep playing super small but the Spurs will force the switches. Diaw will start to post up more too.

I think OKC was the Spurs worst matchup. In this series, the Spurs should be able to get into the paint and get what they want.

If MIA traps the pick and roll, then you will have a wide open shooter on the corner.

Our Wizards exploited that in the regular season.

The Spurs were down 2 before LeBron went out for the rest of the game. If LeBron plays, heat win that game.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Lebron was +0 for the game. Even.

When James went out IIRC the Spurs led 94-92. Diaw was balling in the fourth quarter. He finished +30. I think James would have probably won it for Miami if he didn't cramp up, but the game was swinging the Spurs way in the fourth even with James on the floor.

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[nate33]

Lebron was +0 for the game. Even.

When James went out IIRC the Spurs led 94-92. Diaw was balling in the fourth quarter. He finished +30. I think James would have probably won it for Miami if he didn't cramp up, but the game was swinging the Spurs way in the fourth even with James on the floor.

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Yeah. If Lebron stayed in, the Heat definitely would have finished with more than 95 points, but they wouldn't have gotten to 110. Lebron went out at the 4:09 mark with the score 94-92, Spurs. In the final 4 minutes, the Spurs scored 16 points. They hit EVERYTHING down the stretch, including 4 out of 4 3-pointers. With Lebron in, perhaps Miami would have scored 10 points in those final 4 minutes, but not the 18 they needed to force a tie.

[pancakes3]

I just want to point out this odd little substitution at the end of the game there. When Lebron went out the first time with the cramp at around 7 minutes, Pops subbed in Danny Green for Leonard and Danny basically wins the game for them with 3 three's and a fast break dunk in the span of 5-6 minutes. Then with about 1-2 minutes left, Pops takes Green out and puts Leonard back in. Leonard does get some "garbage time" points but was that move a defensive move so they could preserve their 5-10 point lead and close it out? It just seemed like an odd move.

Also, Lebron traveled like hell on his cramp layup.

[Ruzious]

Yeah, it's really hard to make the case that Miami would have won if Lebron hadn't cramped up. SA was amazing after Lebron went to the bench, but it's absurd to say that was only because Lebron wasn't in. SA deserves all the credit. That's why they're SA. And it was a treat to watch them finish the way they did.

As for Lebron, the only thing I'd question is why he wasn't drinking more. Before he cramped up, it was obvious that he was heavily fatigued on the bench. I don't know if he was taking fluids then, but when the camera panned to him - several times - there was no sign of fluid intake.

[nate33]

I just want to point out this odd little substitution at the end of the game there. When Lebron went out the first time with the cramp at around 7 minutes, Pops subbed in Danny Green for Leonard and Danny basically wins the game for them with 3 three's and a fast break dunk in the span of 5-6 minutes. Then with about 1-2 minutes left, Pops takes Green out and puts Leonard back in. Leonard does get some "garbage time" points but was that move a defensive move so they could preserve their 5-10 point lead and close it out? It just seemed like an odd move.

I suppose it might have been fatigue. With that heat, Pop probably felt it was best to keep cycling through his role players and make sure everyone was getting fluids while they rested.

[Zonkerbl]

Lebron was +0 for the game. Even.

When James went out IIRC the Spurs led 94-92. Diaw was balling in the fourth quarter. He finished +30. I think James would have probably won it for Miami if he didn't cramp up, but the game was swinging the Spurs way in the fourth even with James on the floor.

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Yeah. If Lebron stayed in, the Heat definitely would have finished with more than 95 points, but they wouldn't have gotten to 110. Lebron went out at the 4:09 mark with the score 94-92, Spurs. In the final 4 minutes, the Spurs scored 16 points. They hit EVERYTHING down the stretch, including 4 out of 4 3-pointers. With Lebron in, perhaps Miami would have scored 10 points in those final 4 minutes, but not the 18 they needed to force a tie.

Well, but maybe the defense would have been better?

[FAH1223]

The Spurs were down 2 before LeBron went out for the rest of the game. If LeBron plays, heat win that game.

I don't think so. The Spurs were on a 15-6 run even with LeBron out there.

SA was getting whatever on the interior and tHen they started hitting 3s unconsciously. Danny Green got open for a couple and hit a contested one.

[LyricalRico]

The Spurs were down 2 before LeBron went out for the rest of the game. If LeBron plays, heat win that game.

I don't think so. The Spurs were on a 15-6 run even with LeBron out there.

SA was getting whatever on the interior and tHen they started hitting 3s unconsciously. Danny Green got open for a couple and hit a contested one.

Agreed, the momentum had already swung IMO. As nate said, LeBron being on the court would have made the margin smaller. But I still think the Spurs would have won.

[Kanyewest]

Wow. I didn't realize the Spurs drafted Goran Dragic too.

Essentially San Antonio drafted Dragic for Steve Kerr and Phoenix. Kerr didn't think Dragic would be there a few picks later in the 2nd round.

[Kanyewest]

I just want to point out this odd little substitution at the end of the game there. When Lebron went out the first time with the cramp at around 7 minutes, Pops subbed in Danny Green for Leonard and Danny basically wins the game for them with 3 three's and a fast break dunk in the span of 5-6 minutes. Then with about 1-2 minutes left, Pops takes Green out and puts Leonard back in. Leonard does get some "garbage time" points but was that move a defensive move so they could preserve their 5-10 point lead and close it out? It just seemed like an odd move.

Also, Lebron traveled like hell on his cramp layup.

Good point on the travel... I didn't notice it

As for the Green/Leonard substitution, Leonard was put in when the Spurs were on offense and up by 4. Leonard's 3 essentially put the Spurs away with 1:43 left in the game. As for why Pop did it, maybe he thought Green needed a break given the conditions. Or Pop just wanted Leonard out there to close the game which he certainly did. Leonard didn't play well up to that point in comparison to Green but he has proven to be the superior player over the course of the season.

[dobrojim]

How the flying f*ck did we lose to the Pacers? Seriously.

Hill outplayed Wall in at least 4 games

West outplayed Nene in probably 5 games (maybe 6)

PG came alive long enough to carry them to one win.

Hibbert woke up at least temporarily.