Political Roundtable Part X

[JWizmentality]

This will probably be as earth shattering as Breitbart's Obama "Harvard Video"

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[Induveca]

The drone claim source is suspect. The allegations are unproven as-of today.
http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

Wikileaks has always been very careful what they retweet. The fact they tweeted out that story the day prior to an announcement, they have never retweeted wild theories and very rarely (2-3 time

The Truepundit.com guy won't reveal his name, only that he has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes for investigative reporting and won a Gerald Loeb award. Again, bizarre (and who knows the truth) but what a great story to follow....

[closg00]

The drone claim source is suspect. The allegations are unproven as-of today.
http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

Wikileaks has always been very careful what they retweet. The fact they tweeted out that story the day prior to an announcement, they have never retweeted wild theories and very rarely (2-3 time

The Truepundit.com guy won't reveal his name, only that he has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes for investigative reporting and won a Gerald Loeb award. Again, bizarre (and who knows the truth) but what a great story to follow....

This has all the red flags of a classic disinformation campaign, it feeds into a running conspiratorial narrative about the Clintons. We shall see.

[JWizmentality]

Assange will have to do better than that. Hillary joking/semi serious about droning him falls into meh.

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[Kanyewest]

The drone claim source is suspect. The allegations are unproven as-of today.
http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

Wikileaks has always been very careful what they retweet. The fact they tweeted out that story the day prior to an announcement, they have never retweeted wild theories and very rarely (2-3 time

The Truepundit.com guy won't reveal his name, only that he has been nominated for two Pulitzer Prizes for investigative reporting and won a Gerald Loeb award. Again, bizarre (and who knows the truth) but what a great story to follow....

Read on Twitter

[Induveca]

Assange will have to do better than that. Hillary joking/semi serious about droning him falls into meh.

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Apparently it's over thousands of other documents and emails, and this is merely an early document. At least this is exciting. Wikileaks has never sensationalized, they merely release shocking documents and let the public decide. Whatever happens tomorrow, if it's huge it won't be Wikileaks celebrating.

It's actually 3 AM EST, not 4 AM.

[DCZards]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

[nate33]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

[closg00]

Anatomy of a fake, Clinton disinformation operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-matt-drudge-okay-just-checking_us_57f269b8e4b082aad9bc191f?section=

[Induveca]

Anatomy of a fake, Clinton disinformation operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-matt-drudge-okay-just-checking_us_57f269b8e4b082aad9bc191f?section=

Wikileaks always delivers. 10 years, they've never once leaked something that wasn't well curated and eye-opening.

Comparing drudge and other crap sites to Wikileaks is illogical. We should all applaud the guy for what he's done to open up the NSA issues.

If he has something horrific on Clinton, I hope some partisanship can dissipate and honestly judge the information. The guy has a flawless reputation in terms of content he's released, never partisan only publishes what he finds to be relevant and true after a ton of due-diligence and indexing.

[nate33]

Anatomy of a fake, Clinton disinformation operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-matt-drudge-okay-just-checking_us_57f269b8e4b082aad9bc191f?section=

Drudge has got a story on his front page about an alleged bastard son of Bill Clinton named Danney Williams. http://drudgereport.com/

It's kind of odd for Drudge, who usually tries to link to stories that are backed by legitimate news organizations, or to sources that he personally knows. This is just some guy's Facebook page who posts a bunch of pictures of him looking vaguely like Clinton. So far, I see no actual evidence to support Danney Willliams' allegation. It just doesn't seem like the type of thing Drudge would highlight - at least not above the logo. Does Drudge have some inside info that makes him think the story is believable?

p.s. I also don't think the story would affect the election, except perhaps to trigger more sympathy for Hillary. It's just not relevant to Hillary's ability to run the country, as far as I'm concerned.

[Kanyewest]

Anatomy of a fake, Clinton disinformation operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-matt-drudge-okay-just-checking_us_57f269b8e4b082aad9bc191f?section=

Wikileaks always delivers. 10 years, they've never once leaked something that wasn't well curated and eye-opening.

Comparing drudge and other crap sites to Wikileaks is illogical. We should all applaud the guy for what he's done to open up the NSA issues.

If he has something horrific on Clinton, I hope some partisanship can dissipate and honestly judge the information. The guy has a flawless reputation in terms of content he's released, never partisan only publishes what he finds to be relevant and true after a ton of due-diligence and indexing.

Recently Wikileaks retweeted/circulated the story that there was an murder of a volunteer/worker in the Clinton campaign. They were willing to offer a reward to the likely offenders. However, the rumor seemed to be false as the family of the victim told them to stay out of it.

[DCZards]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

Following Trump tax revelations, voters in Toledo question his business acumen

TOLEDO — John Gillespie dug into his omelet with one hand and flipped through the Toledo Blade with the other. The news that Donald Trump had declared a $916 million loss in his 1995 tax return, and may have avoided paying income taxes for as many as 18 years, had made it to the front page of the local newspaper. Gillespie, 52, struggled to make sense of it.
“This was in 1995?” he asked, looking up from the diner counter. “This was during an economic upturn — and he managed to lose $916 million?” The tool and die maker, who had voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont in the Democratic primary, started to laugh. “That tells me a lot about his economic skills.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/following-trump-tax-revelations-voters-in-toledo-question-his-business-acumen/2016/10/02/a2de2e62-88c8-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html

[nate33]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

Following Trump tax revelations, voters in Toledo question his business acumen

TOLEDO — John Gillespie dug into his omelet with one hand and flipped through the Toledo Blade with the other. The news that Donald Trump had declared a $916 million loss in his 1995 tax return, and may have avoided paying income taxes for as many as 18 years, had made it to the front page of the local newspaper. Gillespie, 52, struggled to make sense of it.
“This was in 1995?” he asked, looking up from the diner counter. “This was during an economic upturn — and he managed to lose $916 million?” The tool and die maker, who had voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont in the Democratic primary, started to laugh. “That tells me a lot about his economic skills.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/following-trump-tax-revelations-voters-in-toledo-question-his-business-acumen/2016/10/02/a2de2e62-88c8-11e6-875e-2c1bfe943b66_story.html

The tool and die maker, who had voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont in the Democratic primary, started to laugh. “That tells me a lot about his economic skills.”

[closg00]

Anatomy of a fake, Clinton disinformation operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/is-matt-drudge-okay-just-checking_us_57f269b8e4b082aad9bc191f?section=

Drudge has got a story on his front page about an alleged bastard son of Bill Clinton named Danney Williams. http://drudgereport.com/

It's kind of odd for Drudge, who usually tries to link to stories that are backed by legitimate news organizations, or to sources that he personally knows. This is just some guy's Facebook page who posts a bunch of pictures of him looking vaguely like Clinton. So far, I see no actual evidence to support Danney Willliams' allegation. It just doesn't seem like the type of thing Drudge would highlight - at least not above the logo. Does Drudge have some inside info that makes him think the story is believable?

p.s. I also don't think the story would affect the election, except perhaps to trigger more sympathy for Hillary. It's just not relevant to Hillary's ability to run the country, as far as I'm concerned.

The thing is, the article shows where Drudge himself debunks the claim when it was run the first time...recycled Tabloid trash.

[JWizmentality]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

um, ya. His people are idiots. Regular Trump U graduates. People who buy the business acumen garage without realizing his current tax plan doesn't fix the problem but offers more breaks to people like him. But don't worry ya'll. He gone fix it.

[montestewart]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

um, ya. His people are idiots. Regular Trump U graduates. People who buy the business acumen garage without realizing his current tax plan doesn't fix the problem but offers more breaks to people like him. But don't worry ya'll. He gone fix it.

Yeah, "The Comeback" is just another trite American cliche. The Clintons came back. So did Reagan and Nixon. So did Michael Milken and Billie Sol Estes. So did John Travolta. A comeback is not necessarily good. Trump has apparently repeatedly burned through other people's cash, written off the losses against future income, and "come back," and for many Americans, this is a great story, or proof of his genius, or some such.

[closg00]

Haha, the Assange big reveal was nothing more than self-promotion complete with him wearing Wikileaks merch along with pimping paid membership, we will have to wait further for something of substance.

(Perhaps more info will be revealed this morning)

[JWizmentality]

Hey Indu, you got rick rolled. Hope you really didn't stay up until 3am.

Funny watching the foxnews tools this morning try to strike a balance between excoriating Assange for his "illegal" acts yet still pathetically hanging on to a hope he'll release something...anything.....by the end of the year.

[DCZards]

Now back to the news.

Post-debate, Clinton takes the lead
(CNN) Hillary Clinton emerges from the first presidential debate with a five-point lead over Donald Trump in the race for the presidency, having narrowed the enthusiasm gap between her supporters and Trump's, and holding broad advantages over the Republican nominee as the candidate with the right temperament and preparation for the job, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

The survey finds Clinton topping Trump 47% to 42% among likely voters with Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson at 7% and Green Party nominee Jill Stein at 2%.

Clinton's boost in the race stems largely from gains on Trump among men (from a 22-point deficit with that group in early September to just a 5-point one now) and sharply increased support from independents, who broke heavily in Trump's favor in the early September poll but now tilt Clinton, 44% to 37%.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/03/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html