Political Roundtable Part XXII

Pointgod · Post #1441 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:26 pm

So they're going to postpone the confirmation a week so the FBI can conduct further investigation. So why didn't they do this **** a week ago?!

I_Like_Dirt · Post #1442 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:43 pm

nate33 wrote:
I said, if Kavanaugh has a weakness, it is that his track record of being an idealogue is long. Moderates might have trouble voting for him because he won't be able to obscure his stance on hot button issues like abortion. You are arguing that Kavanaugh is a bad candidate because it was well understood that he has a bunch of dirt in his personal history. I've seen no indication that that was the case.

They had control of the house and the senate. I don't think anyone is going to know for sure about that kind of thing. We don't know now. They wanted an idealogue on the SC. So why worry about being held up on idealogue grounds for Kavanaugh specifically? That was going to be the case with any candidate.

As for being a mysoginist, not all conservatives are mysoginists, though clearly a lot of vocal ones are which is making it increasingly hard for the non-mysoginists to separate themselves. It really isn't such a high bar to pick a candidate who probably wouldn't potentially have sexual assault allegations levied at him at any point, and clearly that's a bar Kavanaugh is struggling to clear.

pancakes3 · Post #1443 » by **pancakes3** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:54 pm

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/408928-trump-administration-predicted-seven-degree-increase-in-global

Straight from the Trump Admin - global warming is inevitable so we shouldn't even bother trying.

Pointgod · Post #1444 » by **Pointgod** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:09 am

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
nate33 wrote:
I said, if Kavanaugh has a weakness, it is that his track record of being an idealogue is long. Moderates might have trouble voting for him because he won't be able to obscure his stance on hot button issues like abortion. You are arguing that Kavanaugh is a bad candidate because it was well understood that he has a bunch of dirt in his personal history. I've seen no indication that that was the case.

They had control of the house and the senate. I don't think anyone is going to know for sure about that kind of thing. We don't know now. They wanted an idealogue on the SC. So why worry about being held up on idealogue grounds for Kavanaugh specifically? That was going to be the case with any candidate.

As for being a mysoginist, not all conservatives are mysoginists, though clearly a lot of vocal ones are which is making it increasingly hard for the non-mysoginists to separate themselves. It really isn't such a high bar to pick a candidate who probably wouldn't potentially have sexual assault allegations levied at him at any point, and clearly that's a bar Kavanaugh is struggling to clear.

I'm comfortable saying that all that Conservatism represents misogyny. It's as plain as the nose on my face. There's only one party that rails against feminism and legislation that would help women. Conservatives are the party that made the rapist in Chief President. I don't see the point in tip toeing around it. Unless Conservatives are openly speaking out against their partys misogyny then they are enabling it. Simply put a party that isn't full of misogynists wouldn't hide behind a woman to question a sexual assault victim.

stilldropin20 · Post #1445 » by **stilldropin20** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:13 am

ok libs,

you got your delay. And the big bad mean old trump granted you an FBI investigation.

Now is thew time to switch gears and rally the american people to not put an (anti) Antirust shill on the US supreme court!! He is going to side with big tech and big business and trump will nominate more like him if trump has more opportunities. I know this hurts trump but as i stated, I'm socially liberal and a hard core civil libertarian and strict constitutionalist. kav punches those boxes for me but I am also anti big business. anti global business. And I am anti-trust and anti monopoly. That means more to me right now and i think Trump will survive this and keep at least the senate at the midterms. I think Trump keeps the house as well.

Because this Ford stuff aint going to hold up to the FBI interview. I guarantee it. Your anti trust angle is your only path. Facebook and google want this guy on the bench!!! Which means your dem senators actually do too. They dont give 2 shxt about roe vs wade which wont be overturned anyway save defining when and where life begins which is accepted right now around 5 months for anyone with any kind of education about this subject. So let that go!! And fight this from a different angle and you can get the support. Force Trump to make a choice that is anti big tech and anti big business and anti globalism. All of which are much more important the Roe Vs. Wade which aint getting overturned anyway. You got a week!! Go!!! Tell yo mama! tell yo franz!!

gtn130 · Post #1446 » by **gtn130** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:44 am

Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

stilldropin20 · Post #1447 » by **stilldropin20** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:54 am

gtn130 wrote:Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

imma proud trumper. He is the beginning. 150 years from now they will look back at 2016 and say that it all started here!!

Kanyewest · Post #1448 » by **Kanyewest** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:29 am

Pointgod wrote:So they're going to postpone the confirmation a week so the FBI can conduct further investigation. So why didn't they do this **** a week ago?!

Jeff Flake/Murkowski/Collins/Manchin looked at the polls. Otherwise the rest of the Republicans would have moved forward.

Post #1449 » by **montestewart** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:33 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
gtn130 wrote:Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

imma proud trumper. He is the beginning. 150 years from now they will look back at 2016 and say that it all started here!!

Whaddya mean "they"? I plan on being here myself to laugh at this post which I'm printing and framing right now

Post #1450 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:49 pm

Pointgod wrote:So they're going to postpone the confirmation a week so the FBI can conduct further investigation. So why didn't they do this **** a week ago?!

One of them found integrity in an elevator. And... our President is now entertained.

We can't make this stuff up.

Post #1451 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:52 pm

montestewart wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
gtn130 wrote:Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

imma proud trumper. He is the beginning. 150 years from now they will look back at 2016 and say that it all started here!!

Whaddya mean "they"? I plan on being here myself to laugh at this post which I'm printing and framing right now

You're going to be old in 150 years - no doubt still draining the Social Security fund from the US, a subsidiary of China.

Post #1452 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:08 pm

If I'm going to be 100% honest about this, I probably don't reject Cavanaugh on the basis of sexual assault. I reject him for 2 other reasons. One are his comments and lack thereof when questioned on human rights. Two is the way he testified - not just yesterday - but before when asked about his drinking - the disrespect was completely unacceptable for SC Justice candidate. And yesterday was a complete disqualification - that was unbelievable for a SC Justice candidate. And if I may say... what a f'n pussy. And I didn't even address the fact that he's lied under oath several times. That would be reason #3 to disqualify him.

dckingsfan · Post #1453 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:22 pm

gtn130 wrote:Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

Conservative: a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes.

Trumpism is Conservatism - therefore Trumpism supports the preservation of the best in society and opposes radical changes to the system. We know that isn't the case, Trump supports the worst practices in society and has made radical changes (immigration, taxation, environmental). So, your assertion is false and just plain silly.

If you said that Trump has hijacked the Republican party and no longer stand for conservative values - then okay.

It is like saying all Bernie is the new progressive. #neverBernies that think there are rational Ds are completely delusional. Equal bullpucky.

By your comments, you now advocate a single party system and believe we don't need checks and balances against the Ds?

dckingsfan · Post #1454 » by **dckingsfan** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:25 pm

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-why-our-model-thinks-beto-orourke-really-has-a-chance-in-texas/

Bring it on... went to a debate party. I though Beto more than held his own. It will really be about Texans coming out to vote (and they have the lowest voter participation of any of the 50 states).

Post #1455 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 7:14 pm

This is too funny.

Read on Twitter

stilldropin20 · Post #1456 » by **stilldropin20** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:18 pm

montestewart wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
gtn130 wrote:Trumpism is Conservatism. #NeverTrumpers who think there are good Republicans out there are completely delusional. This is your party now

imma proud trumper. He is the beginning. 150 years from now they will look back at 2016 and say that it all started here!!

Whaddya mean "they"? I plan on being here myself to laugh at this post which I'm printing and framing right now

the beginning of outsiders entering national political dialogue and office en masse. There will be more donald trumps. and many of them will not be billionaires. Hopefully they can, over time, take our government back from the elites that have owned our media (and all the pundits), hollywood, and our elected officials for a long long long long long long long time.

And the american public needs to slowly get over the idea of choir boys should be elected to office. The left does this every election year. Smear campaign tactics. Ive said this over 20 times in these threads: Barrack killed over 15,000 people by order of drone strikes, 10,000 women and children civilian estimated deaths. That aint not effing choir boy. And Obama does not and should not have to apologize for it. Obama must govern for the better of the american people. Same for trump. And whether or not they had certain experiences in life should NOT preclude them from office.

Smear tactics should be outlawed. Because no one is perfect and the smear tactics will not come up unless the politicians threatens the existing world order. Anything that disrupts the billionaire class is probably a good thing for the middle class and working poor. So we must stop falling the bull crap smear tactics. I'm sick of it! And others are finally catching on!!

Read on Twitter

stilldropin20 · Post #1457 » by **stilldropin20** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:28 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #1458 » by **montestewart** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:10 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:

Read on Twitter

To save poor men with daughters from having to pee in the backyard?

Wizardspride · Post #1459 » by **Wizardspride** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:02 am

Well thats that....

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Post #1460 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:46 am

The limits put on the FBI by the WH make it look like a farce - whether it is or isn't. These kind of things continue to rip apart the perceived integrity of our country. And as we've seen in this case, perception is often more important than reality. The way our WH and Senate have been running is a f'n joke. And it's not a funny joke. IT is a Pennywise the Clown type of joke... with Cavanaugh, Trump, and Graham behaving like warped characters from a Steven King novel.