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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1441 » by no D in Hibachi » Sat Feb 4, 2012 2:49 am

hermitkid wrote:Outside of dunking and the occasional blocked shots McGee's game has absolutely no redeeming qualities.

Signing him to any sort of extension is going to be a colossal blunder that's going to doom this franchise.

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Our only hope is Ted wises up before the trade deadline and dumps EG so the new GM can trade Javele for some value.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1442 » by dandridge 10 » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:10 am

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tontoz wrote:I've been on the fence with Mcgee so far but now i think i am leaning towards letting him go.

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+2. I just don't think this kid is going to get it. He might be good for a highlight reel or two, but I really don't see him an integral part of a winning team.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1443 » by Earth2Ted » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:25 am

I've really been pulling for JaVale since he came in the league to become that elusive impact big man for the Wizards that C-Webb and Sheed and Kwame should have been. But what can you say, tonight the kid looks very far from superstardom.

That fourth foul he picked up - where we just leveled one of the Raptors guards in the lane for no apparent reason - that was just surreal. It was as if he had been possessed by aliens with mind control devices- and really low basketball IQ's. I don't know how else to explain it.

I'd like to think of a good response to everyone saying trade him or just let him walk in free agency- but I got nothing.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1444 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:34 am

Tyson Chandler at 24 had accomplished nada.

McGee is better at C than Wall is at PG. After Booker, McGee has been the best Wizard with respect to PER, WS/48. Today he got whipped by Amir Johnson. He's been destroyed by Howard a couple times. He's been manhandled by Philly's bigs twice but had one monster game against them.

Since the dunk gone wrong and his mom coming to his defense when the media went off on him; THE WIZARDS DECIDED NOT TO GIVE HIM A NEW CONTRACT. McGee played well in a couple games and terrible in three or four.

Right now he's losing playing time to Seraphin and it is obvious the Wizards don't want to pay him.

McGee happens to be slumping, too.

I don't know what's going on in his mind, but I think the Wizards may as well trade him. This is the McGee appreciation thread and folks don't want him. People still think Wall is great and won't post anything bad about him in his appreciation thread, but they can't wait for McGee to look awful.

Honestly, if he and Pam McGee hate the Wizards organization and the relationship is mutual, they can trade him. Javale can have a very bright future in a place like Portland. Lots of teams would love to have him.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1445 » by queridiculo » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:37 am

The problem with McGee is between his ears. I agree with Pam McGee when she defends her son being called a knucklehead, but outside of his lifestyle and behavior, he's very much as flawed as Blatche.

Over inflated sense of self, oblivious to his shortcomings and simply incapable of translating what the coaches are telling him, to production on the court.

4 years in the league and he can't box out, set a screen, show hard on PNR defense, realize the difference between a good shot and a bad shot etc. etc. etc.

McGee's upside is out of this world, but his intangibles suck.

You can't rely on a guy like him to get it, and with a tough decision to make in the offseason I think it's time to move on.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1446 » by 7-Day Dray » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:37 am

Is something up with JaVale's head? I'm just wondering because I remember him playing with much better effort earlier in the season. Ever since Dray got injured, McGee has looked very lackadaisical and isn't giving consistent effort. He's not rotating, not boxing out, not contesting shots, etc. Something is really up with him mentally.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1447 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:40 am

hermitkid, McGee got better in rebounding each year. That is the one area he has definitely improved in.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1448 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:45 am

7-Day Dray wrote:Is something up with JaVale's head? I'm just wondering because I remember him playing with much better effort earlier in the season. Ever since Dray got injured, McGee has looked very lackadaisical and isn't giving consistent effort. He's not rotating, not boxing out, not contesting shots, etc. Something is really up with him mentally.


The Wizards decided he was not worth DeAndre Jordan money. Kevin Seraphin is playing more minutes. Since Blatche was the starter all season under Flip, McGee has generally played next to Vesely or Booker. They play differently but I don't think that is a legit excuse for McGee's slumping.

McGee seems to have lost his fire or passion to play.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1449 » by queridiculo » Sat Feb 4, 2012 3:54 am

His rebounding has gotten better, but not where it matters unfortunately. His defensive rebounding is atrocious for somebody with his length and athleticism and it's primarily because he doesn't fight for or establish position.

This year he just barely manages to snag 6 defensive rebounds in almost 30 minutes of play. That's one every 5 minutes.

Contrast that with John Wall who averaged 4.1 last year and 4.2 this year.

His play doesn't contribute to winning basketball and it hasn't changed since he's joined the team.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1450 » by Illuminaire » Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:57 am

During the game, McGee once received a pass along the base line. I immediately yelled "NO, NOOOOO!"

My buddy started to ask me what was wrong, when McGee made a horrendous drive attempt resulting in a weaksauce shot that had no chance of going in. I swear, you could see it in his eyes as soon as he caught the ball... he was going to take that shot. He locked in and never considered that there were two guys waiting for him and no good passing lanes to shooters. >.<

Tonight was definitely a case of Bad McGee. Sigh.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1451 » by tontoz » Sat Feb 4, 2012 4:46 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if they trade him by the deadline. If they wait until the summer they could lose him for nothing or have to take back more salary in a trade.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1452 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 4, 2012 5:31 pm

hermitkid wrote:His rebounding has gotten better, but not where it matters unfortunately. His defensive rebounding is atrocious for somebody with his length and athleticism and it's primarily because he doesn't fight for or establish position.

This year he just barely manages to snag 6 defensive rebounds in almost 30 minutes of play. That's one every 5 minutes.

Contrast that with John Wall who averaged 4.1 last year and 4.2 this year.

His play doesn't contribute to winning basketball and it hasn't changed since he's joined the team.


His play did seem to contribute to winning basketball last season, but not at all this season.

I wanted the Wizards to pick up a great defensive rebounding PF to help McGee. I think Seraphin with McGee would work. However, I'm accepting that McGee might not be the way to move forward at C. Have to accept it unless things pick up. He got of to a really good start this season, when the rest of the team struggled, but he's really in a nose dive now.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1453 » by dangermouse » Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:55 am

So, i think ive done a complete 180 degree turn on my "we need to sign Javale to an extension" opinion.

I didnt see the Clippers game but from the thread it seems a lot of people are saying he looked horrible, completely gassed, and needed his puffer on the bench.

On a back to back half way through a shortened season... If he cant keep up, then i honestly dont think he'll ever be any better than a good backup centre on a good team.

I love Javale, hes a good kid and has huge talent and unmatched athletecism, but i think it is time to trade him because its probably a bad idea to re-sign him.

Trade Javale and Nick and try and get another draft pick, get rid of EG like yesterday before we let him at another NBA draft, amnesty Blatche, try and buyout Lewis and then just fill out the roster holes by throwing money at free agents.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1454 » by no D in Hibachi » Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:01 am

He's basically licked pouch ever since his mom said he was the future of the NBA. Ted needs to ship Pam's and Javale's butt's out of DC. If he keeps playing like he did tonight he won't have much of a future in the NBA.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1455 » by dangermouse » Sun Feb 5, 2012 3:27 am

no D in Hibachi wrote:He's basically licked pouch

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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1456 » by theboomking » Sun Feb 5, 2012 1:48 pm

If CCJ can play I told you so about previous draft prospects, so can I about McGee. His best value is as a trade chip, and we should have cashed him in during last year's draft. Can we even trade McGee at this point of the year? Certainly, he has hurt his trade value with his play.

JaVale was never going to be worth Deandre Jordan money. And what is so special about Tyson Chandler that we ought to be holding on to McGee like he is gold just in case he becomes Chandler-esque. Chandler is overrated and replaceable. I don't think he's that much better than Dalembert. Players of that caliber can be obtained later through trade or free agency. We don't need to overpay for McGee now just in case he ever reaches that level.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1457 » by 7-Day Dray » Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:11 pm

theboomking wrote:If CCJ can play I told you so about previous draft prospects, so can I about McGee. His best value is as a trade chip, and we should have cashed him in during last year's draft. Can we even trade McGee at this point of the year? Certainly, he has hurt his trade value with his play.

JaVale was never going to be worth Deandre Jordan money. And what is so special about Tyson Chandler that we ought to be holding on to McGee like he is gold just in case he becomes Chandler-esque. Chandler is overrated and replaceable. I don't think he's that much better than Dalembert. Players of that caliber can be obtained later through trade or free agency. We don't need to overpay for McGee now just in case he ever reaches that level.


I don't think his value has gone down much, if at all. Centers with his height and athleticism are hard to find. I'm sure a team would give up solid value for him if we put him on the block.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1458 » by pancakes3 » Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:15 pm

Well, i'm not sure Deandre Jordan is worth Deandre Jordan money either. Also, Dalembert is also making in the low-teen-millions as well, as is noah. If you're a starting 7 footer [black] C in the league, chances are you're going to make low 8 figures. I don't think mcgee is the future and that we have to lock him down or else. however, i do think that with all his flaws, he's going to be miles better than whoever else we get to replace him.
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Re: The Javale McGee Appreciation Thread 

Post#1459 » by theboomking » Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:23 pm

So what exactly are the rules about trading a pending RFA? Can we trade McGee before the deadline? How about during the draft, or this summer?
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Post#1460 » by tontoz » Sun Feb 5, 2012 2:30 pm

theboomking wrote:So what exactly are the rules about trading a pending RFA? Can we trade McGee before the deadline? How about during the draft, or this summer?


Yes we can trade him before the deadline. If he isn't traded by the deadline then we can't trade him until the 2nd week in July. At that point it would have to be a SNT deal.
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