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Official Trade Thread - Part XXV

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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1461 » by verbal8 » Sun Jan 5, 2014 2:23 am

JWallConnect wrote:Trade Gortat!

I can see the argument for trading Gortat or Ariza at this point. However what do you expect to get in return.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1462 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 5, 2014 3:23 am

I predict the Lakers will trade Steve Blake and keep Kendall Marshall. Give it about a month, or right at the deadline.



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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1463 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 5, 2014 3:51 am

How many people wanted Gortat traded before Booker became a starter?

The Wizards need to trade Nene more than Gortat IMO.

As things are, I think waiting about 10 games is the thing to do. Wait for other teams to become desperate to offload players. Andre Miller, Will Barton, Reggie Evans, Will Bynum, Irsan Ilyasova, Ray McCallum, Brandon Bass, Glen Davis, Kris Humphries, Ed Davis, Carlos Boozer, are names that could be on the trade block.


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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1464 » by dangermouse » Sun Jan 5, 2014 7:30 am

I'd trade Nene a million times over before Gortat.

But with Nene's health and contract, itll be easier to move Marcin and we'd get a better return.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1465 » by Dark Faze » Sun Jan 5, 2014 5:03 pm

Here's a question:

Would you guys make a move of Ariza + GRJ for Monroe and Billups?

Billups is a salary throw in and is on a two year, 2.5 million deal and is mostly playing like ass for Detroit. Ariza fixes a lot of issues for them as a good defensive wing that allows Smoove to be a permanent PF for them, and advanced stats indicate their best frontcourt duo is Smoove+Drummond.

Still though, they may want a young player with some potential thrown in the mix to add to feel a little bit better about dealing a potential all-star for a roleplayer, so GRJ would make the trade a lot more even in their eyes.

Billups is just a year removed from two strong seasons of 15-16 PER with strong TS percentages and if he can get back to that form it would help an improving bench get even stronger, as well we'd see a return of Booker to the bench.

Wall
Beal
Porter
Monroe
Gortat

Billups
Webster
Singleton
Booker
Nene


I like Porter to start because I think he's already a better defender than Webster and having a do it all type of guy would be better than having 5 primarily offensive players starting together. Singletons looked a little bit better of late, I think I like him next to Web more than I like Temple.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1466 » by nuposse04 » Sun Jan 5, 2014 5:41 pm

I wonder if it is possible to buy low on Larry Sanders right now? Maybe like Gortat+GR JR+Jan+'15 2nd
I'm just done with Gortat. As well as he does offensively, he's laughable on defense.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1467 » by keynote » Sun Jan 5, 2014 6:10 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Here's a question:

Would you guys make a move of Ariza + GRJ for Monroe and Billups?

Billups is a salary throw in and is on a two year, 2.5 million deal and is mostly playing like ass for Detroit. Ariza fixes a lot of issues for them as a good defensive wing that allows Smoove to be a permanent PF for them, and advanced stats indicate their best frontcourt duo is Smoove+Drummond.

Still though, they may want a young player with some potential thrown in the mix to add to feel a little bit better about dealing a potential all-star for a roleplayer, so GRJ would make the trade a lot more even in their eyes.


That trade is far too lopsided, mostly because I think you're overestimating GRJR's trade value. He's shown a flash of promise or two, but he's just a 2nd round pick who has yet establish himself as a rotation player. I think we'd have to offer Porter instead of Rice for Joe D to even return EG's phone call.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1468 » by verbal8 » Sun Jan 5, 2014 6:15 pm

keynote wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Here's a question:

Would you guys make a move of Ariza + GRJ for Monroe and Billups?

Billups is a salary throw in and is on a two year, 2.5 million deal and is mostly playing like ass for Detroit. Ariza fixes a lot of issues for them as a good defensive wing that allows Smoove to be a permanent PF for them, and advanced stats indicate their best frontcourt duo is Smoove+Drummond.

Still though, they may want a young player with some potential thrown in the mix to add to feel a little bit better about dealing a potential all-star for a roleplayer, so GRJ would make the trade a lot more even in their eyes.


That trade is far too lopsided, mostly because I think you're overestimating GRJR's trade value. He's shown a flash of promise or two, but he's just a 2nd round pick who has yet establish himself as a rotation player. I think we'd have to offer Porter instead of Rice for Joe D to even return EG's phone call.


Yeah I think question would be Ariza and Porter for Monroe or not? I could see it working for both teams, slides Josh Smith to PF and gives them an upgrade at SF for this season and the future if Porter pans out. If gives the Wizards a good rotation Monroe/Gortat/Nene for the bigs.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1469 » by JWallConnect » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:13 pm

verbal8 wrote:
JWallConnect wrote:Trade Gortat!

I can see the argument for trading Gortat or Ariza at this point. However what do you expect to get in return.


I wouldn't mind to get some bench pieces or any big that plays some defense and has a decent offensive game.

I really want Enes Kanter though but I'm not sure if we have the pieces to get him from the Jazz.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1470 » by Ruzious » Sun Jan 5, 2014 9:58 pm

dangermouse wrote:I'd trade Nene a million times over before Gortat.

But with Nene's health and contract, itll be easier to move Marcin and we'd get a better return.

What's the point of trading either one at this point? Neither has significant trade value, and the team would suck if either were traded. If you trade one in an effort to tank, It's too late, and the owner wouldn't go for even it weren't too late.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1471 » by Nivek » Sun Jan 5, 2014 11:27 pm

The Wizards aren't trading anyone from this group of players: Wall, Beal, Porter, Nene, Gortat, Webster or Ariza. Probably not Booker either, but I think they'd consider it if they thought it was a move that could improve the team THIS SEASON. They're all-in for the playoffs, in no small part because making the playoffs is how the front office and the coaching staff keep their jobs. They're not trading from their core -- even guys on expiring contracts -- because EVERYTHING they're doing is with an eye toward a) making the playoffs, and b) staying below the luxury tax threshold.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them try out some D-League PGs on 10-day contracts until they find one they like. But I don't see them making a long-term move that would send out one those core guys.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1472 » by dckingsfan » Mon Jan 6, 2014 12:11 am

Don't get why Memphis is trading Bayless... sure it isn't going to make Crawford happy.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1473 » by hands11 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:06 am

verbal8 wrote:
keynote wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:Here's a question:

Would you guys make a move of Ariza + GRJ for Monroe and Billups?

Billups is a salary throw in and is on a two year, 2.5 million deal and is mostly playing like ass for Detroit. Ariza fixes a lot of issues for them as a good defensive wing that allows Smoove to be a permanent PF for them, and advanced stats indicate their best frontcourt duo is Smoove+Drummond.

Still though, they may want a young player with some potential thrown in the mix to add to feel a little bit better about dealing a potential all-star for a roleplayer, so GRJ would make the trade a lot more even in their eyes.


That trade is far too lopsided, mostly because I think you're overestimating GRJR's trade value. He's shown a flash of promise or two, but he's just a 2nd round pick who has yet establish himself as a rotation player. I think we'd have to offer Porter instead of Rice for Joe D to even return EG's phone call.


Yeah I think question would be Ariza and Porter for Monroe or not? I could see it working for both teams, slides Josh Smith to PF and gives them an upgrade at SF for this season and the future if Porter pans out. If gives the Wizards a good rotation Monroe/Gortat/Nene for the bigs.


That's giving up to much.

TA and KS could be the base of the package. If they need Jr to make it happen, you give them Jr as well.
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Re: Official Trade Thread - Part XXV 

Post#1474 » by hands11 » Mon Jan 6, 2014 2:16 am

This team really needs to open up that 15th roster spot. I hate having it filled when we are still missing pieces.

Its also more fun to consider call ups and other 10 day contracts you can do when that slot is open.

No #1 pick next year. No open 15th slot. Team struggling. Just not as fun to follow them under those conditions.

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