Political Roundtable Part X

[closg00]

I am seeing the Clinton Drone Strike being repeated as fact all over the internet now by duped Trumpsters, this is how disinformation campaigns works, it's a very old tactic used by the CIA.

[JWizmentality]

It looks more and more like the drone strike thing was his big reveal. He panicked when he saw people didn't give a flying fack. This was personal to him. Pathetic

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[Kanyewest]

Haha, the Assange big reveal was nothing more than self-promotion complete with him wearing Wikileaks merch along with pimping paid membership, we will have to wait further for something of substance.

(Perhaps more info will be revealed this morning)

Yeah it seemed like there was nothing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/04/trump-backers-feel-played-as-wikileaks-fails-to-come-through-on-october-surprise/

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[AFM]

No, he said the reveal is coming later. They are releasing something every week for the next 10 weeks.

[JWizmentality]

No, he said the reveal is coming later. They are releasing something every week for the next 10 weeks.

Um...no.

"He dismissed speculation that the documents related to the United States election would contain information intended to damage the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. The idea that “we intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I don’t like Hillary Clinton, all those are false,” Mr. Assange said."

[doclinkin]

No, he said the reveal is coming later. They are releasing something every week for the next 10 weeks.

Um...no.

"He dismissed speculation that the documents related to the United States election would contain information intended to damage the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. The idea that “we intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I don’t like Hillary Clinton, all those are false,” Mr. Assange said."

Seems possible this is a blackmail threat that got paid off. Showing up with nothing more than an infomercial to sell his brand suggests that money is a point of vulnerability for him. Maybe he has found a way to get significantly paid for being a plausible conduit of damaging information. All he has to do is threaten, hint at what he can release, knowing that true or not it will be given credibility, and suddenly maybe someone shows up to ask what they can do to help him, and boom he can move the decimal a couple places in his bank account.

By saying its not Hillary, suggests hey maybe he can now squeeze Trump a bit, get shakedown $ from the other side too.

[montestewart]

No, he said the reveal is coming later. They are releasing something every week for the next 10 weeks.

Um...no.

"He dismissed speculation that the documents related to the United States election would contain information intended to damage the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, the Democratic nominee. The idea that “we intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I intend to harm Hillary Clinton, or I don’t like Hillary Clinton, all those are false,” Mr. Assange said."

Seems possible this is a blackmail threat that got paid off. Showing up with nothing more than an infomercial to sell his brand suggests that money is a point of vulnerability for him. Maybe he has found a way to get significantly paid for being a plausible conduit of damaging information. All he has to do is threaten, hint at what he can release, knowing that true or not it will be given credibility, and suddenly maybe someone shows up to ask what they can do to help him, and boom he can move the decimal a couple places in his bank account.

By saying its not Hillary, suggests hey maybe he can now squeeze Trump a bit, get shakedown $ from the other side too.

Yeah, the whole "every week for the next 10 weeks" could just as easily be a sitcom schedule. I was all ready to read about Hillary Clinton putting out a hit on Bill's love child (one of them, anyway). Put up or shut up, unless you're just trying to raise awareness of the Wikileaks Online Gift Shop.

[closg00]

Haha, the Assange big reveal was nothing more than self-promotion complete with him wearing Wikileaks merch along with pimping paid membership, we will have to wait further for something of substance.

(Perhaps more info will be revealed this morning)

Yeah it seemed like there was nothing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/04/trump-backers-feel-played-as-wikileaks-fails-to-come-through-on-october-surprise/

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Just as I suspected, he really knows how to milk the tin foil hat Repubs, I think he over-played his hand.

[JWizmentality]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

Can I also point out the raging hypocrisy of the guy who rails against leftist immigrants who come here, steal jobs, and don't pay taxes...but comes to bat for the genius pretend billionaire who doesn't pay taxes.

[Induveca]

Holy ish Guccifer 2.0 just released 5000 docs, a complete hack of the Clinton Foundation. Assange's first leak of 10 also coming this week. I wouldn't believe it but the Guccifer stuff is astounding.

Read little (as has everyone) biggest thing so far was banks paying massive money to the Clinton foundation for TARP funds. Percentage of TARP donated to Clinton Foundation.

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/

Dig through all expenses emails, bribes. Assange was obviously distancing himself from a "personal attack" vibe but Guccifer stepped up wow.

This is a big deal, hope the media is on it....

[AFM]

Holy ish Guccifer 2.0 just released 5000 docs, a complete hack of the Clinton Foundation. Assange's first leak of 10 also coming this week. I wouldn't believe it but the Guccifer stuff is astounding.

Read little (as has everyone) biggest thing so far was banks paying massive money to the Clinton foundation for TARP funds. Percentage of TARP donated to Clinton Foundation.

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/

Dig through all expenses emails, bribes. Assange was obviously distancing himself from a "personal attack" vibe but Guccifer stepped up wow.

This is a big deal, hope the media is on it....

Stop being an alt-right conspiracy theorist!!!!

[Induveca]

Holy ish Guccifer 2.0 just released 5000 docs, a complete hack of the Clinton Foundation. Assange's first leak of 10 also coming this week. I wouldn't believe it but the Guccifer stuff is astounding.

Read little (as has everyone) biggest thing so far was banks paying massive money to the Clinton foundation for TARP funds. Percentage of TARP donated to Clinton Foundation.

https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/10/04/clinton-foundation/

Dig through all expenses emails, bribes. Assange was obviously distancing himself from a "personal attack" vibe but Guccifer stepped up wow.

This is a big deal, hope the media is on it....

Stop being an alt-right conspiracy theorist!!!!

Lol. At this point it's literally the only amusing/fun thing left in politics.

Listen I was a big hacker type as a kid, I love this vibe.

[AFM]

indu = xenophobic, transphobic, racist, bigot!!!!!!!!!!!

[tontoz]

The longer this goes on the more i dislike both candidates. I think it is about that time....

[nate33]

The fact that Trump lost almost a $1 billion in one year—and he now wants to “run the country like he runs his businesses”—may end up hurting him more with voters than the fact that he hasn’t paid any federal taxes.

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

Can I also point out the raging hypocrisy of the guy who rails against leftist immigrants who come here, steal jobs, and don't pay taxes...but comes to bat for the genius pretend billionaire who doesn't pay taxes.

The difference is the low-skill immigrants and illegal immigrants are a net negative. They cost much more in services than they pay in taxes. Trump plays plenty of taxes indirectly - property taxes, sales taxes and payroll taxes, plus all the taxes paid by the jobs he creates with his investments.

I continue to have absolutely no problem with Trump paying no taxes if it's due to carry-forward losses from previous years. It's what EVERY SINGLE BUSINESSMAN does. This is a complete non-story.

[AFM]

The longer this goes on the more i dislike both candidates. I think it is about that time....

You just at this point?

[AFM]

Um. No. People aren't idiots. They recognize that businesses, particularly those that are heavily based on investments, are subject to the fluctuations of the market. They're going to see his current success (market valuation between $4 and 10 billion with minimal debt) and not be concerned about his business savvy. Heck, if anything, Trump will characterize it as a strength in his business skills. It's the Art of the Comeback.

Can I also point out the raging hypocrisy of the guy who rails against leftist immigrants who come here, steal jobs, and don't pay taxes...but comes to bat for the genius pretend billionaire who doesn't pay taxes.

The difference is the low-skill immigrants and illegal immigrants are a net negative. They cost much more in services than they pay in taxes. Trump plays plenty of taxes indirectly - property taxes, sales taxes and payroll taxes, plus all the taxes paid by the jobs he creates with his investments.

I continue to have absolutely no problem with Trump paying no taxes if it's due to carry-forward losses from previous years. It's what EVERY SINGLE BUSINESSMAN does. This is a complete non-story.

Curious, but do you take in to account that every single one of us benefits from hispanic immigration re: real estate?
I'm a real estate developer, (like trump, but that's where the similarities end)-- real estate is built on the back of people willing to work for 8 dollars an hour. Don't even get me started on how much hispanics are willing to work for off the books on the weekends!

Yes, american workers are hurt, but everyone who lives in a house or apartment in america benefits greatly from hispanic labor...

[Induveca]

indu = xenophobic, transphobic, racist, bigot!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha.

[AFM]

indu = xenophobic, transphobic, racist, bigot!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha.

Never asked. Hoo Yoo voting 4?

Hillary Clitt Ton?

Her Clit weighs a Ton.


Hoo?

[tontoz]

Curious, but do you take in to account that every single one of us benefits from hispanic immigration re: real estate?
I'm a real estate developer, (like trump, but that's where the similarities end)-- real estate is built on the back of people willing to work for 8 dollars an hour. Don't even get me started on how much hispanics are willing to work for off the books on the weekends!

Yes, american workers are hurt, but everyone who lives in a house or apartment in america benefits greatly from hispanic labor...

If we want some work done in the yard or around the house we all know where to find some cheap hispanic labor. They are always hanging around convenience stores. They wouldn't be there if they werent getting business.