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Political Roundtable Part XVIII

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Post#1462 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:38 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:I'm pretty sure there were highly ranked people in Trump's campaign staff who coordinated the release of stolen emails strategically in exchange for ease of sanctions. I'm sure Trump knew about it and gave orders to do it. Trump's increasing panic is proof that he's guilty, to me anyway. The only drama now is can Mueller collect enough evidence to prove it and can he implicate Trump directly.

Anything else anyone says is just spreading alt-right echo chamber propaganda. We'll see how it turns out. I have high hopes for Mueller, even though he's an evil Republican FBI spook. Or maybe because he's an evil Republican FBI spook.


How is Trump behaving? Is Trump behaving like someone who is innocent? Trump can't STFU about the investigation, the facts that he keeps Fing chirping about it, gaslightling about it shows that he is guilty AF.
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Post#1463 » by gtn130 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:51 pm

closg00 wrote:
Zonkerbl wrote:I'm pretty sure there were highly ranked people in Trump's campaign staff who coordinated the release of stolen emails strategically in exchange for ease of sanctions. I'm sure Trump knew about it and gave orders to do it. Trump's increasing panic is proof that he's guilty, to me anyway. The only drama now is can Mueller collect enough evidence to prove it and can he implicate Trump directly.

Anything else anyone says is just spreading alt-right echo chamber propaganda. We'll see how it turns out. I have high hopes for Mueller, even though he's an evil Republican FBI spook. Or maybe because he's an evil Republican FBI spook.


How is Trump behaving? Is Trump behaving like someone who is innocent? Trump can't STFU about the investigation, the facts that he keeps Fing chirping about it, gaslightling about it shows that he is guilty AF.


Guys, they changed the RNC foreign policy platform regarding Ukraine. That's quid pro quo and goes all the way to the top. Nate can try to gaslight the thread all he wants, but it's pretty obvious what went down. It's all publicly available information.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1464 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:07 pm

Trump enjoyed a post SOU bump but look at what the polls will start to show this week?
My prediction is that he will crater to about 37% in favorably and really want to look at how he is with women who are 54% of the electorate. The popularity he showed was mainly a myth when you look at the polling in PA18 where the Republican only had a 3% lead in a area that lead by 19%. The other is how he is doing with white women they are key to who prevails in the midterms. Democrats have a enthusiasm over the Republicans which turns close races into victory. Think the Democratic to Republican gap will increase to the 10% range this week.
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Post#1465 » by Kanyewest » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:10 pm

Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
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Post#1466 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:19 pm

Donald Trump is just tired of being under investigation as would any new incoming president basically under Investigation since the day he took office.

Combined with an out rages media full blown attack on him daily for a full 24 hours on CNN and MSNBC for a full 15 straight months.

So yeah, he’s perturbed. He’s allowed to be. Anybody would be.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1467 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:25 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:Donald Trump is just tired of being under investigation as would any new incoming president basically under Investigation since the day he took office.

Combined with an out rages media full blown attack on him daily for a full 24 hours on CNN and MSNBC for a full 15 straight months.

So yeah, he’s perturbed. He’s allowed to be. Anybody would be.


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What information do you want.
Yes the Russians interfered lets get to the bottom of it.
Not asking Comey to be loyal. Then asking CIA & NSA chiefs to intervene! Then Fire Comey!
Heeded Obama's advice and not hire Flynn.
Listen to AG warning about Flynn's contact with Russians.
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Post#1468 » by gtn130 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:52 pm

Pretty hilarious how Trump's latest claim is he's the absolute TOUGHEST on Russia - way tougher than Obama.

~6 months ago Trump was saying how we need to work with Russia and be nice to them!
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Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1469 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:01 pm

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stilldropin20 wrote:Donald Trump is just tired of being under investigation as would any new incoming president basically under Investigation since the day he took office.

Combined with an out rages media full blown attack on him daily for a full 24 hours on CNN and MSNBC for a full 15 straight months.

So yeah, he’s perturbed. He’s allowed to be. Anybody would be.


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What information do you want.
Yes the Russians interfered lets get to the bottom of it.
Not asking Comey to be loyal. Then asking CIA & NSA chiefs to intervene! Then Fire Comey!
Heeded Obama's advice and not hire Flynn.
Listen to AG warning about Flynn's contact with Russians.
Not lie about everything.

The liberal left media and Democrats were not looking for truth justice in trumps tax returns. they were looking for opportunities to make Trump look bad politically. And Trump didn’t fall for it.

They also intended to make the GOP look bad for supporting trump so they could either impeach Trump or win either house or senate in 2018.

If Obama was treated the way Trump has been treated by mainstream media we would’ve had riots in the streets over six months ago. And I would’ve been right there in the streets rioting with the people.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1470 » by Ruzious » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:05 pm

Don't you think the President of the US should have a thick skin? He cries more than a typical 4 year old being dropped off on her first day of nursery school. And he ran for president bragging about how much energy he has. His whining constantly about the media is at best a f'n pussy move and a national embarrasment for our country. We've never had a national figure who cries, whines, and lies more than Trump, and he doesn't care - just as long as he gets his way.

There's one reason Trump gets treated harsher than Obama. Obama wasn't a human piece of **** to them like Trump's been. It's got nothing to do with politics - ask Bush. You have to be incredibly stupid not to understand this.

And it's Trump's strategy to be be a human piece of ****. So stop making him out to be a martyr!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1471 » by Pointgod » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:30 pm

Kanyewest wrote:Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
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I thought surely there's no way that right wing scumbags would go as low as to target children that just survived a mass shooting......not even a week.....

https://splinternews.com/the-conservative-medias-smear-campaign-against-florida-1823162051
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1472 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:34 pm

gtn130 wrote:Pretty hilarious how Trump's latest claim is he's the absolute TOUGHEST on Russia - way tougher than Obama.

~6 months ago Trump was saying how we need to work with Russia and be nice to them!


Looking forward to his tweet congratulating President Putin on his election win in a month. :lol:

Obama and Medvedev were much more buddy buddy. But that was before Ukrainian crisis and Arab Spring aftermath and Putin re-emerging as President.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1473 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:35 pm

Ruzious wrote:Don't you think the President of the US should have a thick skin? He cries more than a typical 4 year old being dropped off on her first day of nursery school. And he ran for president bragging about how much energy he has. His whining constantly about the media is at best a f'n pussy move and a national embarrasment for our country. We've never had a national figure who cries, whines, and lies more than Trump, and he doesn't care - just as long as he gets his way.

There's one reason Trump gets treated harsher than Obama. Obama wasn't a human piece of **** to them like Trump's been. It's got nothing to do with politics - ask Bush. You have to be incredibly stupid not to understand this.

And it's Trump's strategy to be be a human piece of ****. So stop making him out to be a martyr!


Wish the press was adversarial with Bush.

Would have saved the country trillions, thousands of lives, and many more Iraqi lives.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1474 » by stilldropin20 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:45 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
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I thought surely there's no way that right wing scumbags would go as low as to target children that just survived a mass shooting......not even a week.....

https://splinternews.com/the-conservative-medias-smear-campaign-against-florida-1823162051

The Obama FBI holdovers clearly have some issues. Missing this kid and this kid shooting 17 children is just one of those issues. I’m not even sure this is the biggest issue but it’s a huge issue.

Using the FBI and DOJ to spy On a political opponent during a presidential election and especially after that election is taken place and in fact spying on the incoming administration is bigger to me. But I understand if anybody sees the shooting tragedy as a bigger issue to them. Both are huge.

Right now the temperature seems to be that Trump is willing to make the purchases a little more difficult and include mental health and better background checks is a huge step. Almost no other GOP candidate would have the political capital to do so. Keep in mind that the left is just chipping away at this political capital he has with his base.

You guys don’t realize it, but you are ruining Trump. You are ruining this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where an outsider who is a lifelong democrat who is from New York who has liberal values who loves to put deals together and would love to make a whole lot of legislation work better for the entire United States… You guys are killing this opportunity.

And worse you guys can’t even see it. It’s right front of your face and you can’t even see-it.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1476 » by Pointgod » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:22 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
;app=desktop


I thought surely there's no way that right wing scumbags would go as low as to target children that just survived a mass shooting......not even a week.....

https://splinternews.com/the-conservative-medias-smear-campaign-against-florida-1823162051

The Obama FBI holdovers clearly have some issues. Missing this kid and this kid shooting 17 children is just one of those issues. I’m not even sure this is the biggest issue but it’s a huge issue.

Using the FBI and DOJ to spy On a political opponent during a presidential election and especially after that election is taken place and in fact spying on the incoming administration is bigger to me. But I understand if anybody sees the shooting tragedy as a bigger issue to them. Both are huge.

Right now the temperature seems to be that Trump is willing to make the purchases a little more difficult and include mental health and better background checks is a huge step. Almost no other GOP candidate would have the political capital to do so. Keep in mind that the left is just chipping away at this political capital he has with his base.

You guys don’t realize it, but you are ruining Trump. You are ruining this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where an outsider who is a lifelong democrat who is from New York who has liberal values who loves to put deals together and would love to make a whole lot of legislation work better for the entire United States… You guys are killing this opportunity.

And worse you guys can’t even see it. It’s right front of your face and you can’t even see-it.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1477 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:30 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
;app=desktop


I thought surely there's no way that right wing scumbags would go as low as to target children that just survived a mass shooting......not even a week.....

https://splinternews.com/the-conservative-medias-smear-campaign-against-florida-1823162051


I can't believe how-low these people will go, you should see the crap some friends are sharing on FB without shame or embarrassment.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1478 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:39 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
gtn130 wrote:Pretty hilarious how Trump's latest claim is he's the absolute TOUGHEST on Russia - way tougher than Obama.

~6 months ago Trump was saying how we need to work with Russia and be nice to them!


Looking forward to his tweet congratulating President Putin on his election win in a month. :lol:

Obama and Medvedev were much more buddy buddy. But that was before Ukrainian crisis and Arab Spring aftermath and Putin re-emerging as President.


Remember this? Whoever runs against Trump needs to run against him portraying him as a traitor and Putin Puppet
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1479 » by cammac » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:47 pm

The reality it was Mitch McConnell that stopped stronger government reaction against the Russians.
Securing bipartisan agreement seemed especially crucial. Obama’s team “worried that doing so unilaterally and without bipartisan congressional backing just weeks before the election would make Obama vulnerable to charges that he was using intelligence for political purposes.” But Republican leaders, especially Mitch McConnell, refused. McConnell, the Post reports, “raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.” And he was not alone: “Some of the Republicans in the briefing also seemed opposed to the idea of going public with such explosive allegations in the final stages of an election.”


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVIII 

Post#1480 » by Pointgod » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:52 pm

closg00 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Donald Trump Jr. Liked Tweets Promoting A Conspiracy Theory About A Florida Shooting Survivor
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnashrulla/donald-trump-jr-conspiracy-theory-florida-shooting-survivor?utm_term=.drJqW8YqyX#.kk27M1y7mP

Clinton Watts talking about why promoting tweet like this are problematic almost a year ago.
;app=desktop


I thought surely there's no way that right wing scumbags would go as low as to target children that just survived a mass shooting......not even a week.....

https://splinternews.com/the-conservative-medias-smear-campaign-against-florida-1823162051


I can't believe how-low these people will go, you should see the crap some friends are sharing on FB without shame or embarrassment.


This is why I laugh when people talk about finding a middle ground with the right. What's the middle ground with people that are willing to attack children that lost friends and teachers? But both sides are just as bad......

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